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Uram
#21 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2020 8:11:54 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Who 'won' in the voting?


Uhuru/Rao losing big. 25-20 so far.
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Uram
#22 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2020 8:15:00 PM
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Uram wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Who 'won' in the voting?


Uhuru/Rao losing big. 25-20 so far.


25-22 to the 'No' side.
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murchr
#23 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2020 8:18:22 PM
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limanika wrote:
sqft wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
sqft wrote:
The people of Mt kenya have been deceived for long that they are very developed so they should get less while the situation on the ground is very different. For instance the residents of kirinyaga and nyandarua have been complaining perennially due to lack of roads and other infrastructure.

https://www.nation.co.ke...ttle-development-222952




Even in nairobi, just go to kasarani, roysambu, pipeline etc you will find that they are no inner roads or sewer and yet nairobi is said to be very developed and thus should get less funds despite producing 60% of GDP. Mnadanganywa that you are very developed so others can siphon all the funds to their counties.




There is another very developed Nairobi. This one here:




Hata huko runda residents have no govt water or sewer, they formed runda water company to supply water coz kanjo water was non existent and also all of them rely on septic tanks. Same with karen hakuna sewer only septic tanks and boreholes + water trucks hapo dagoreti corner for water. All that development you see there is funded privately by the residents not devolution taxes.


Very true. We all know this devolution was never about development. It was an argument by those who felt there was too much eating at the central govt whereby they couldn't participate and therefore needed to devolve corruption. Sadly, they won the day since the powers that be did not want to lose support.

So nowadays you have a president who goes to foreign capitals to beg for money, comes home, hands over the money to governors who end up eating a huge chunk. Then the president is left spending sleepless nights wondering how to repay since the loan money was spent in non-income generating activities. For how long are we going to live this lie?




Devolution is working very well for those who understand it, look at Makueni. Those who still dont get it are left to butt lick.

On that note, money should follow the people not the land. OneManOneVoteOneShilling.
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Lolest!
#24 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2020 8:19:02 PM
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Kang'ata amendment shot down
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
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masukuma
#25 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2020 8:25:22 PM
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Project Kenya still has a chance!
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Uram
#26 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2020 8:40:19 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Kang'ata amendment shot down


Fellow thought threats/blackmail would work. Rudderless.
Jubilee had good Senate leadership in Murkomen/Kihika.
The duo never lost a motion.
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Angelica _ann
#27 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2020 8:57:29 PM
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Uram wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Kang'ata amendment shot down


Fellow thought threats/blackmail would work. Rudderless.
Jubilee had good Senate leadership in Murkomen/Kihika.
The duo never lost a motion.


His threats were very annoying, for that I enjoy the defeat.
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Uram
#28 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2020 9:01:40 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Uram wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Kang'ata amendment shot down


Fellow thought threats/blackmail would work. Rudderless.
Jubilee had good Senate leadership in Murkomen/Kihika.
The duo never lost a motion.


His threats were very annoying, for that I enjoy the defeat.


They have sensed a second defeat- Sakaja's motion
They want to run away in the name of respecting curfew hours.
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Uram
#29 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2020 9:03:39 PM
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Uram wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Uram wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Kang'ata amendment shot down


Fellow thought threats/blackmail would work. Rudderless.
Jubilee had good Senate leadership in Murkomen/Kihika.
The duo never lost a motion.


His threats were very annoying, for that I enjoy the defeat.


They have sensed a second defeat- Sakaja's motion
They want to run away in the name of respecting curfew hours.


Oops! They are gone. Cowards.
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Queen
#30 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2020 9:22:21 PM
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Uram wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Kang'ata amendment shot down


Fellow thought threats/blackmail would work. Rudderless.
Jubilee had good Senate leadership in Murkomen/Kihika.
The duo never lost a motion.


The only reason the duo never lost a motion was because, during their time, jubilee was one united party with a clear majority in the house. In the current stalemate, people like Murkomen are against the bill despite his county being a beneficiary. For him I believes it is a case of payback time.

Kang'ata may be a poor leader but on this one he is blameless. There is alot of politics involved. Remember RAO does not wish to antagonize the counties which are likely to "lose" money and hence his troops are unable to side with UK on this one.
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