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wukan
#541 Posted : Monday, June 29, 2020 4:32:07 PM
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sqft wrote:
amorphous wrote:
sqft wrote:
If @wukan was to be asked, nairobi should not have spread beyond kirinyaga rd and river rd.


Wukan has admitted several times papa hapa that he is a lucky sperm/silver spoon scion waiting for mama and papa to kick the bucket so he can inherit their old money.
I suspect his parents were that first wave of entrepreneurs from Muranga who bought up much of the River Road muhindi shops in the 1960s and 1970s. He seems very bitter when regular chaps who sweated for every coin they have are making moves in DC (the "I must be the only rich one and everybody else must be bitterly poor" mentality.) Isapite.


Now I know why he is TRAPPED in kirinyaga rd and grogon. He should make his folks proud by expanding the "family empire" beyond kirinyaga rd, not waiting for the spoils like a vulture.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly you peeps are funny. sparkles(read the Kihingo thread again) and many others try to show you how the wealth of the city is made and keep throwing mud at old money. Making money is the easy bit keeping it is the harder thing. If you think I am not expanding the family empire you are so wrong.

This city's DNA has not changed in a century.True billionaires(not those who steal govt funds) are manufactured in the same areas of this city. Same reason it always rains more around the lakeside. If you go to new york if you will find a place known as the billionaires row. Same for London, Hong Kong, Singapore. Even the Chinese came recently and they have gathered in the same downtown areas. Every day there are new young men that come to this city and they find mentors in that downtown area and they become millionaires. There is nothing new under the sun

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Murang'a is famous as the cradle of the Agikuyu. It is also home to some affluent men and women who made Nairobi their home long before independence. Wattle trees were the first cash crop long before coffee and tea. This crop spawned the first generation of tycoons like the famous Jogoo Kimakia.

https://www.standardmedi...tired-towns-of-murang-a
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The tiny towns seem frozen in time and prospects. They seem untouched by devolution or globalisation. They have traditional dukas with a canopy. The buildings in the tiny towns seem thinner than in other towns. The tiny towns boast lots of incomplete, abandoned buildings or empty plots.
The presence of so many tiny tired towns in this county left my head spinning. They might be best manifestation of brain drain. Once men and women go through school, they just leave the countryside and never return.
The educated and ambitious find higher returns in bigger towns like Thika or Nairobi and surprisingly abroad. You know where little Murang’a is in USA with Kamaus for nyama choma? Even Kikuyu church services are there for you.

amorphous
#542 Posted : Monday, June 29, 2020 4:41:04 PM
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Wukan,
So if it is so easy to make money why are you busy hanging onto mama and papas wealth instead of cobbling together your own smile .
Please do not mention Sparkles as an example of wealth ati Kihingo. Tunjamaa Hana kitu! Just one crumbling 1/8th he has been defeated to sell because he has zero social skills. Hata kwake Rondi Kopany Hana kitu!!..not even a grass thatchLaughing out loudly . Ask him where Kihingo is and he will not even know.
In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
wukan
#543 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2020 9:33:16 AM
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amorphous wrote:
Wukan,
So if it is so easy to make money why are you busy hanging onto mama and papas wealth instead of cobbling together your own smile .


Simple you do not need to re-invent the wheel. papas plot may be worth 90m but to redevelop it to proper commercial cum residential(not kikuyu gothic) will require maybe another 900m. Looking for that 900m is what I'm busy cobbling together
amorphous
#544 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:03:17 AM
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wukan wrote:
amorphous wrote:
Wukan,
So if it is so easy to make money why are you busy hanging onto mama and papas wealth instead of cobbling together your own smile .


Simple you do not need to re-invent the wheel. papas plot may be worth 90m but to redevelop it to proper commercial cum residential(not kikuyu gothic) will require maybe another 900m. Looking for that 900m is what I'm busy cobbling together


he he he he

But why would you raise 900m to renovate a 90m building when you could raise the 900m to build a beautiful new building from scratch without mama na papa's wealth to cling on to? It is a waste of money IMHO to renovate an old building for close to a billion! My advice..if you truly can raise 900m, buy a huge piece of land in DC and build a small city. Way better returns, built with your own sweat without running to mama or papa for crumbs off the table smile
In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
sparkly
#545 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:16:37 AM
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wukan wrote:
amorphous wrote:
wukan wrote:

I don't like urban sprawl. It makes cities very expensive.

Expensive meaning land prices shoot through the roof? How is that a bad thing for investors?

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I'm okay with the urban decay of Nairobi core because it can easily be solved.

Laughing out loudly

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That urban mess in DC is beyond redemption.


How so? Proof/evidence that it is "beyond redemption" vis-a-vis Nairobi core?


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One day the govt will have to build an expressway all the way to Namanga.


Na shida iko wapi? Have you been to Namanga rd? Have you seen the two slip roads parallel to it throughout Kitengela CBD? You can build a 10 lane superhighway from Kitengela to Namanga easy peasy if funds allow.

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Even the guy who did the video is complaining on how you are grabbing pastureland.


What's wrong with grabbing pastureland? Wasn't Nairobi core once pastureland?


Your questions are answered herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c6rIt0fe7w.


One day you will realize why muhindis have stuck to parklands and westlands and somalis in Eastleigh, South C



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Life is short. Live passionately.
sparkly
#546 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:20:30 AM
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An instructive video on building upwards versus sideways...

Life is short. Live passionately.
Jon Jones
#547 Posted : Wednesday, July 01, 2020 5:59:06 PM
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How are Kitengela and Ngong during the elections?? I have read the entire thread and I am convinced that Mugundaman, despite his annoying demeanor, has a valid point. Kajiado is the best value for money as far as real estate is concerned. Same distance from CBD with Kiambu, but the prices are significantly lower. In fact, my online research shows that houses and land trade at less than half the price of similar houses in Kiambu county. In other words, there is potentially more upside/value for money in Kajiado than Kiambu. I am particularly interested in Ngong and Kitengela. Are these zones friendly investment destinations for people from the mountainside?? Do we have a critical mass of Atiriri's in these towns?? How were those areas in 2007/8. I seek value wherever I can find it but that being said I am still cognizant of the fact that Kenyans are still politically charged and polarized during electioneering periods. In fact, I think that is part of the reason why property and land prices in Kiambu sell at a premium. Someone please shed more light on this.
Since men have learned to shoot without missing, I have learned to fly without perching
wukan
#548 Posted : Wednesday, July 01, 2020 7:35:26 PM
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sqft wrote:
amorphous wrote:
sqft wrote:
If @wukan was to be asked, nairobi should not have spread beyond kirinyaga rd and river rd.


Wukan has admitted several times papa hapa that he is a lucky sperm/silver spoon scion waiting for mama and papa to kick the bucket so he can inherit their old money.
I suspect his parents were that first wave of entrepreneurs from Muranga who bought up much of the River Road muhindi shops in the 1960s and 1970s. He seems very bitter when regular chaps who sweated for every coin they have are making moves in DC (the "I must be the only rich one and everybody else must be bitterly poor" mentality.) Isapite.


Now I know why he is TRAPPED in kirinyaga rd and grogon. He should make his folks proud by expanding the "family empire" beyond kirinyaga rd, not waiting for the spoils like a vulture.


Let me leave this here. Skip to 1:28smile smile
amorphous
#549 Posted : Wednesday, July 01, 2020 7:56:20 PM
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wukan wrote:
sqft wrote:
amorphous wrote:
sqft wrote:
If @wukan was to be asked, nairobi should not have spread beyond kirinyaga rd and river rd.


Wukan has admitted several times papa hapa that he is a lucky sperm/silver spoon scion waiting for mama and papa to kick the bucket so he can inherit their old money.
I suspect his parents were that first wave of entrepreneurs from Muranga who bought up much of the River Road muhindi shops in the 1960s and 1970s. He seems very bitter when regular chaps who sweated for every coin they have are making moves in DC (the "I must be the only rich one and everybody else must be bitterly poor" mentality.) Isapite.


Now I know why he is TRAPPED in kirinyaga rd and grogon. He should make his folks proud by expanding the "family empire" beyond kirinyaga rd, not waiting for the spoils like a vulture.


Let me leave this here. Skip to 1:28smile smile



Wukan,
You are now ruining this DC thread with Grogon manenos Laughing out loudly
Just start a Grogon thread na ubandike hizi vitu hapo hapo mblo.
In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
amorphous
#550 Posted : Wednesday, July 01, 2020 8:02:15 PM
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Jon Jones wrote:
How are Kitengela and Ngong during the elections?? I have read the entire thread and I am convinced that Mugundaman, despite his annoying demeanor, has a valid point. Kajiado is the best value for money as far as real estate is concerned. Same distance from CBD with Kiambu, but the prices are significantly lower. In fact, my online research shows that houses and land trade at less than half the price of similar houses in Kiambu county. In other words, there is potentially more upside/value for money in Kajiado than Kiambu. I am particularly interested in Ngong and Kitengela. Are these zones friendly investment destinations for people from the mountainside?? Do we have a critical mass of Atiriri's in these towns?? How were those areas in 2007/8. I seek value wherever I can find it but that being said I am still cognizant of the fact that Kenyans are still politically charged and polarized during electioneering periods. In fact, I think that is part of the reason why property and land prices in Kiambu sell at a premium. Someone please shed more light on this.


Kitengela and Ngong are PEACE CITIES with the FACE OF KENYA humo humo bratha. Kitengela especially! I have never encountered a more cosmopolitan satellite city in Kenya outside Nairobi and Mombasa in my life! During the worst of PEV and elections of 2017 Kite and Ngong were calm shwaaaaaaa to the end. And as you have brilliantly pointed out - the economics of it are unimpeachable. P.S. the true sign of practical wisdom is the ability to bend to irrefutable logic and being pragmatic despite not liking the message or the messenger Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly. DT arap Moi was a master of this. He always knew how to bend with the wind bila emotions even if he hated what the implications were. When he repealed 2A in one minute even the opposition were shell shocked, yet he ruled for another decade. He always put his ego aside and did what was necessary to achieve the best outcome (for himself of course).

Karibu DC, bratha. You will never regret your investment!

More and and more are waking up to the reality of #DC Rising
In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
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