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wukan
#531 Posted : Monday, June 29, 2020 10:01:14 AM
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That is one huge urban sprawl. Everyone is building anywhere and everywhere. the roads don't have sidewalks. There should an urban/rural boundary zone. Parts of the town will need to be demolished to put up court house, fire station, hospitals, schools.

We really need urban planners or town planners.

amorphous
#532 Posted : Monday, June 29, 2020 10:09:29 AM
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wukan wrote:
That is one huge urban sprawl. Everyone is building anywhere and everywhere. the roads don't have sidewalks. There should an urban/rural boundary zone. Parts of the town will need to be demolished to put up court house, fire station, hospitals, schools.

We really need urban planners or town planners.



Wukan
I cannot say I am surprised at your response Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
I thought you said you like grime, urban sprawl and funk?
In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
wukan
#533 Posted : Monday, June 29, 2020 10:30:50 AM
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amorphous wrote:
wukan wrote:
That is one huge urban sprawl. Everyone is building anywhere and everywhere. the roads don't have sidewalks. There should an urban/rural boundary zone. Parts of the town will need to be demolished to put up court house, fire station, hospitals, schools.

We really need urban planners or town planners.



Wukan
I cannot say I am surprised at your response Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
I thought you said you like grime, urban sprawl and funk?


I don't like urban sprawl. It makes cities very expensive. I'm okay with the urban decay of Nairobi core because it can easily be solved. That urban mess in DC is beyond redemption. One day the govt will have to build an expressway all the way to Namanga. Even the guy who did the video is complaining on how you are grabbing pastureland.
amorphous
#534 Posted : Monday, June 29, 2020 10:47:06 AM
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wukan wrote:

I don't like urban sprawl. It makes cities very expensive.

Expensive meaning land prices shoot through the roof? How is that a bad thing for investors?

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I'm okay with the urban decay of Nairobi core because it can easily be solved.

Laughing out loudly

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That urban mess in DC is beyond redemption.


How so? Proof/evidence that it is "beyond redemption" vis-a-vis Nairobi core?


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One day the govt will have to build an expressway all the way to Namanga.


Na shida iko wapi? Have you been to Namanga rd? Have you seen the two slip roads parallel to it throughout Kitengela CBD? You can build a 10 lane superhighway from Kitengela to Namanga easy peasy if funds allow.

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Even the guy who did the video is complaining on how you are grabbing pastureland.


What's wrong with grabbing pastureland? Wasn't Nairobi core once pastureland?
In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
wukan
#535 Posted : Monday, June 29, 2020 11:10:26 AM
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sqft wrote:
amorphous wrote:
Bottom line, The leafy burbs of Nai core are in serious danger bro. Kilimani is the epicenter of the woes.


Getting worse. Sad.





These majangili are now behind bars. Applause Applause Applause kudos to DCI Kenya.

wukan
#536 Posted : Monday, June 29, 2020 11:45:48 AM
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amorphous wrote:
wukan wrote:

I don't like urban sprawl. It makes cities very expensive.

Expensive meaning land prices shoot through the roof? How is that a bad thing for investors?

Quote:
I'm okay with the urban decay of Nairobi core because it can easily be solved.

Laughing out loudly

Quote:
That urban mess in DC is beyond redemption.


How so? Proof/evidence that it is "beyond redemption" vis-a-vis Nairobi core?


Quote:
One day the govt will have to build an expressway all the way to Namanga.


Na shida iko wapi? Have you been to Namanga rd? Have you seen the two slip roads parallel to it throughout Kitengela CBD? You can build a 10 lane superhighway from Kitengela to Namanga easy peasy if funds allow.

Quote:
Even the guy who did the video is complaining on how you are grabbing pastureland.


What's wrong with grabbing pastureland? Wasn't Nairobi core once pastureland?


Your questions are answered herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c6rIt0fe7w.


One day you will realize why muhindis have stuck to parklands and westlands and somalis in Eastleigh, South C

amorphous
#537 Posted : Monday, June 29, 2020 1:11:34 PM
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wukan wrote:


Your questions are answered herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c6rIt0fe7w.


One day you will realize why muhindis have stuck to parklands and westlands and somalis in Eastleigh, South C



Wukan, kuwa serious,
The video is about as germane to our local context as Thanksgiving Turkey to the average Kenyan.

1. The USA is a mature economy in decline, Kenya is a developing economy that is just getting started. We had a long discussion hapa about the same. The property dynamics between the two are like night and day. Huge debt - and the resultant boom/bust price cycles - is the opium of the property markets in the USA. In Kenya we have a paltry 100k or less mortgages in the whole country. In DC probably 60-80 percent of homeowners do not owe a single ndururu on their mansions. Hence the prices going nowhere but up long term.

2. Property taxes as a major factor in any issue in DC is next to ZERO. Half the video yaps about property taxes.

3. Kenya has sooo much undeveloped land that it is comical for you to compare it to to super urbanized USA where even every rural Hamlet has stima and a tarmack road nearby. Maybe when our economy matures to stima and tarmack in every village, zero slums and 90 percent population resident in urban areas can you even start to compare. Reaching that point may take 200 years!! As it did for the USA!

Bottom line tis a big joke to compare the two. In Kenya the suburban (satellite city) boom HAS NOT EVEN STARTED YET. Isitoshe our system has inbuilt mechanisms to ensure property prices keep going up with no structural end in sight - very little debt percentagewise fueling homeownership, super high birth rates, growing infrastructure, swelling middle classes and middle class purchasing power plus a hard-working population unspoiled by the welfare dole or any significant social safety net. Work or starve is the status quo. The property sector in such an economy si mjezo my friend, this is why prices have been going up in almost linear fashion since the mid 1960s with no end in sight smile 😎
In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
sqft
#538 Posted : Monday, June 29, 2020 1:50:18 PM
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If @wukan was to be asked, nairobi should not have spread beyond kirinyaga rd and river rd.
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
amorphous
#539 Posted : Monday, June 29, 2020 3:16:11 PM
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sqft wrote:
If @wukan was to be asked, nairobi should not have spread beyond kirinyaga rd and river rd.


Wukan has admitted several times papa hapa that he is a lucky sperm/silver spoon scion waiting for mama and papa to kick the bucket so he can inherit their old money.
I suspect his parents were that first wave of entrepreneurs from Muranga who bought up much of the River Road muhindi shops in the 1960s and 1970s. He seems very bitter when regular chaps who sweated for every coin they have are making moves in DC (the "I must be the only rich one and everybody else must be bitterly poor" mentality.) Isapite.
In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
sqft
#540 Posted : Monday, June 29, 2020 3:32:55 PM
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amorphous wrote:
sqft wrote:
If @wukan was to be asked, nairobi should not have spread beyond kirinyaga rd and river rd.


Wukan has admitted several times papa hapa that he is a lucky sperm/silver spoon scion waiting for mama and papa to kick the bucket so he can inherit their old money.
I suspect his parents were that first wave of entrepreneurs from Muranga who bought up much of the River Road muhindi shops in the 1960s and 1970s. He seems very bitter when regular chaps who sweated for every coin they have are making moves in DC (the "I must be the only rich one and everybody else must be bitterly poor" mentality.) Isapite.


Now I know why he is TRAPPED in kirinyaga rd and grogon. He should make his folks proud by expanding the "family empire" beyond kirinyaga rd, not waiting for the spoils like a vulture.
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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