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Why dustbowl is the future
amorphous
#481 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 3:06:57 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Am not a fan of DC but hii ni upusi huku Nairobi. People need to have a life not being herded together with poor amenities and infrastructure.


https://www.businessdail...81004-n64kek/index.html


Double A, tis only a matter of time before you "see the light," flee those millions of one bedroom bedsitters in Kili and join us in DC.
and when you do tutakuwa tukisimama hapa to welcome you without a "we told you so." Come baby come Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
mufasa
#482 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:36:47 PM
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[quote=Angelica _ann]Am not a fan of DC but hii ni upusi huku Nairobi. People need to have a life not being herded together with poor amenities and infrastructure.


https://www.businessdail...81004-n64kek/index.html[/quote]

But why is it that NEMA is more prominent in matters concerning building as opposed to City planning department.

Maajabu!
Do it today! Tomorrow is promise to no-one.
sqft
#483 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 10:37:32 PM
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amorphous wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Am not a fan of DC but hii ni upusi huku Nairobi. People need to have a life not being herded together with poor amenities and infrastructure.


https://www.businessdail...81004-n64kek/index.html


Double A, tis only a matter of time before you "see the light," flee those millions of one bedroom bedsitters in Kili and join us in DC.
and when you do tutakuwa tukisimama hapa to welcome you without a "we told you so." Come baby come Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


So sad that kilimani is now going the bedsitter way like githurai. Why are we degrading all our neighborhoods? The only place the middle class can get proper middle class housing i.e a 4bdrm house with own compound, is huko dustbowl.

I think kenya is the only country where doctors, lawyers, bankers, professors etc live in apartments, including studio apartments aka bedsitters. The situation is different elsewhere. Such 15 floor bedsitters and 1bdrms are meant for the poor elsewhere, not the middle class.






Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
sqft
#484 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 11:23:58 PM
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sqft wrote:
amorphous wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Am not a fan of DC but hii ni upusi huku Nairobi. People need to have a life not being herded together with poor amenities and infrastructure.


https://www.businessdail...81004-n64kek/index.html


Double A, tis only a matter of time before you "see the light," flee those millions of one bedroom bedsitters in Kili and join us in DC.
and when you do tutakuwa tukisimama hapa to welcome you without a "we told you so." Come baby come Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


So sad that kilimani is now going the bedsitter way like githurai. Why are we degrading all our neighborhoods? The only place the middle class can get proper middle class housing i.e a 4bdrm house with own compound, is huko dustbowl.

I think kenya is the only country where doctors, lawyers, bankers, professors etc live in apartments, including studio apartments aka bedsitters. The situation is different elsewhere. Such 15 floor bedsitters and 1bdrms are meant for the poor elsewhere, not the middle class.









They are also building 5brm houses in lavington on plots less than 30x60ft such that the houses have no compound or privacy. Basically you can hear your neighbour eating his wife. A big con for ksh70m.

Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
amorphous
#485 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2020 5:56:50 AM
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sqft wrote:


So sad that kilimani is now going the bedsitter way like githurai. Why are we degrading all our neighborhoods? The only place the middle class can get proper middle class housing i.e a 4bdrm house with own compound, is huko dustbowl.

I think kenya is the only country where doctors, lawyers, bankers, professors etc live in apartments, including studio apartments aka bedsitters. The situation is different elsewhere. Such 15 floor bedsitters and 1bdrms are meant for the poor elsewhere, not the middle class.






Indeed. I told wukan this bitter truth a long time ago and he disputed me furiously with very hot words!
Nairobi core is getting more and more cramped simply because the cost of land there has reached astronomical levels.
If you buy a 1 acre plot in Westlands for 600m, clearly you cannot build a maisonette with a lovely garden and space for the totos to enjoy hapo because it would not make economic sense.
Even if it were built, if it were to be resold, the buyer would still demolish it and build apartments (and from the article above..now bedsitters Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly )
Because for that price, you simply have to get a commensurate return on investment.
Nairobi leafy burb apartment living gets old very fast . Again, I told wukan the same thing two years ago.. cramped space, service charge defaulters manenos, kids making noise 24/7, concrete jungles, no privacy, loud music by some neighbours, the list is endless.
In all the developed countries, the rich leave these cramped living spaces and move out to the burbs where space is golden and kids can ride their bikes in wide open spaces.
with the rapid development of infrastructure ("long commutes" was always a favourite excuse of those who did not want to come to DC) it is inevitable that more of the Nairobi middle classes will flood into DC and similar suburbs.
I am very pleased whenever I pass by Mombasa road and see the construction of the mlolongo to Waiyaki way overpass in full steam. When done I will be driving from Jewel in the Crown, DC to Westlands in 15 minutes tops! I can enjoy my Java, fanya shopping and be back in DC again in no time nyweee on that smooth expressway!
Bottom line the longer the naysayers stay away from DC the WORSE it will be for them when they wake up one day and find they are surrounded by bedsitter highrises even in the leafy burbs of Nai and have also been permanently priced out of DC's lovely wide open spaces Those who have invested in DC will be smiling all the way to to their beautiful houses as well as the bank! Those who haven't will be gnashing teeth bitterly and we will be here to console them with soft "We told you so's" Laughing out loudly
In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
wukan
#486 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2020 8:42:41 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Am not a fan of DC but hii ni upusi huku Nairobi. People need to have a life not being herded together with poor amenities and infrastructure.


https://www.businessdail...81004-n64kek/index.html


Shida yako you are stuck in a bygone era. The market is demanding this communal lifestyle living. The young ones want to hostel living lifestyle i.e small private space and interacting in the public space. They want bike lanes and pedestrian walks and not parking lots. I was shocked went I went to Luthuli avenue the other day and the bilke racks were full. They are having life just in smaller living space. You need to watch the kenyan vloggers then you realize that old lifestyle of having a car, huge living space that you don't use is slowly fading away.

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The developments appear to be addressing a rising demand for functional small spaces among young families, students and expatriates keen on living in own apartments in the capital city.
amorphous
#487 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2020 9:25:08 AM
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wukan wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Am not a fan of DC but hii ni upusi huku Nairobi. People need to have a life not being herded together with poor amenities and infrastructure.


https://www.businessdail...81004-n64kek/index.html


Shida yako you are stuck in a bygone era. The market is demanding this communal lifestyle living. The young ones want to hostel living lifestyle i.e small private space and interacting in the public space. They want bike lanes and pedestrian walks and not parking lots. I was shocked went I went to Luthuli avenue the other day and the bilke racks were full. They are having life just in smaller living space. You need to watch the kenyan vloggers then you realize that old lifestyle of having a car, huge living space that you don't use is slowly fading away.

Quote:
The developments appear to be addressing a rising demand for functional small spaces among young families, students and expatriates keen on living in own apartments in the capital city.


Wukan,
While this may be true for the millenials, please remember that youth is as fleeting as mild fog. One can only live a boehmian life renting a bedsitter, riding a bike and living like a vagabond with no roots for so long. As their youth fades so will these tastes. I remember living in student hostels as a first year student in uni. Very exciting at first! Then came the noisy roomatees, lack of space to store your items. Hanging clothes on and outside windows. Very little light and fresh air..it was a nightmare! So called "small living spaces" only sound good on paper for so long. Once a person hits 30, jameni they have no business living in a bedsitter or cramped apartment unless they have no other choice.
In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
Pirate
#488 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:58:31 AM
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amorphous wrote:
sqft wrote:
wukan wrote:
amorphous wrote:


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They have plenty of affordable yet high quality properties in DC, Jewel in the Crown especially.

he he he he he @ your driving worry. I used to think like you...that the universe revolved around the leafy burbs of Nai. Join us in DC and you will be kicking yourself on the foot asking why you did not leave Nairobi core sooner! Entertainment joints (for those who are into this) galore full of the same same type of grim Nairobian faces you currently bump into in Westy. Isitoshe you get a HIGHER standard of living in TRIPLE the space for half (or less) the price. An example. I used to take some of my laundry to WhiteRose Lavi where they would charge an arm and a leg. The waits were crazy because there were so many customers doing the same. In Jewel in the Crown the WhiteRose here charges HALF of what they charge and you will find you are the only person there so attention to you and your needs is incredible. The same for vinyozi. I used to think that Nairobi leafy burbs had nice Kinyozis until I encountered BILLIONAIRES BARBER SHOP in DC Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly. Explore it online for yourself. No comparison whatsoever to any I have been in huko Nai core.


DC forever!


Nai core is about to enter its golden age. Our brother Uhuru has finally got into the program after the UN dudes told him his capital looks like a 3rd rate provincial town. Those wazee that used to love "kikuyu gothic" architectural style are now heading your way to DC to turn it to Embakasi as someone told you earlier. Slowly they are being edged out of the Nai core by more urbane, more traveled younger folks. The noisy entertainment joints and karumaido bars are relocating huko DC, utawala and eastern bypass.

The fact that you found yourself the only person at whiterose shows you are in the minority huko DC. Huku Nai core they now collect and deliver back the laundry. Nai core people are not moving out anytime soon. You will soon be coming back to Nai core. DC has no funk




Have you ever been to dustbowl? The urbane are moving to dustbowl where the lifestyle is unmatched. For instance there is nothing more relaxing than taking a swim or enjoying your whisky at the poolside at Creflo Gardens Kitengela on a lazy sunday afternoon. Or at the nieghouring joints. FYI there are NO karumaindos in dustbowl. Karumaindo type bars ended with the 1960s tumzees. We are in 2020. Wewe kaa huko kirinyaga road with your chokoras and garbage.















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Wukan loves dirt and grime and funk (dictionary definition - bad smell) Laughing out loudly


Interesting conversation .... @Mugunda man , I have a 1/4 acre a stones throw away from Creflo Gardens that I bought back in 2010 . Might you know the current rate?

COVID has cemented the concept of remote working and thus I anticipate a number of Nairobians who have that flexibility to move away from the city . Afterall that's always been the reason ppl live in Nairobi , to be closure to work .. and schools.
Knowledge is power , but action gets things done ...
amorphous
#489 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2020 12:11:18 PM
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Pirate wrote:


Interesting conversation .... @Mugunda man , I have a 1/4 acre a stones throw away from Creflo Gardens that I bought back in 2010 . Might you know the current rate?

COVID has cemented the concept of remote working and thus I anticipate a number of Nairobians who have that flexibility to move away from the city . Afterall that's always been the reason ppl live in Nairobi , to be closure to work .. and schools.


Milimani Kitengela 1/4 we are talking about between 3 to 4.5 metre depending on the plot and surrounding amenities.
If you bought in 2010 you were very wise because I bet they were going for so much less back then.
Excellent point on working from home. So true. This attachment to Nairobi core is being shaken out of its foundations.
I thought I would miss Nairobi core when I first moved to DC. Wapi??. These days I can stay as long as 3 months at a go without stepping foot in Nairobi core because everything I want (and even more) is right here in DC.
In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
mulla
#490 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2020 12:24:47 PM
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amorphous wrote:
Pirate wrote:


Interesting conversation .... @Mugunda man , I have a 1/4 acre a stones throw away from Creflo Gardens that I bought back in 2010 . Might you know the current rate?

COVID has cemented the concept of remote working and thus I anticipate a number of Nairobians who have that flexibility to move away from the city . Afterall that's always been the reason ppl live in Nairobi , to be closure to work .. and schools.


Milimani Kitengela 1/4 we are talking about between 3 to 4.5 metre depending on the plot and surrounding amenities.
If you bought in 2010 you were very wise because I bet they were going for so much less back then.
Excellent point on working from home. So true. This attachment to Nairobi core is being shaken out of its foundations.
I thought I would miss Nairobi core when I first moved to DC. Wapi??. These days I can stay as long as 3 months at a go without stepping foot in Nairobi core because everything I want (and even more) is right here in DC.


Hapo Olturoto nitapata mnunuzi nipate pesa? Na bei huko sasa?
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