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amorphous		#21 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2020 4:37:44 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/15/2019 Posts: 687 Location: planet earth		And remember he told us he will inform us when he buys or sells, meaning during the month if there is no dividende hana any! How does one live off hisa as a value investor who buys and holds, when all your hisa pays no dividend during the month?? This is the mystery VVS will explain when he comes out of hiding! In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
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VituVingiSana		#22 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2020 4:38:15 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,375 Location: Nairobi		amorphous wrote: VVS has gone "into hiding" now that his portfolio is up here in black and white. Wacha tuone where these millions he is living on strictly off hisa since 2010 ( ) are coming from sasa. Next update July 4th! Ngai! There is no pleasing you? I have given you the portfolio breakdown. I have other things to enjoy while the COVID restrictions are slowly lifted. I am more interested in semi-annual updates given the nature of long-term investing. On an interesting note, Centum paid off its note today. I will be relatively passive on this thread since the Portfolio (over the longer-term period) will do the talking expect for updates as to any significant changes in my portfolio. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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amorphous		#23 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2020 5:09:38 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/15/2019 Posts: 687 Location: planet earth		VituVingiSana wrote: amorphous wrote: VVS has gone "into hiding" now that his portfolio is up here in black and white. Wacha tuone where these millions he is living on strictly off hisa since 2010 ( ) are coming from sasa. Next update July 4th! Ngai! There is no pleasing you? I have given you the portfolio breakdown. I have other things to enjoy while the COVID restrictions are slowly lifted. I am more interested in semi-annual updates given the nature of long-term investing. On an interesting note, Centum paid off its note today. I will be relatively passive on this thread since the Portfolio (over the longer-term period) will do the talking expect for updates as to any significant changes in my portfolio. I commend your being open to this challenge Let's see how things pan out. You may prove me wrong, who knows? In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
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Jon Jones		#24 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2020 11:37:07 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 245 Location: Thika		slick wrote: S.Mutaga III wrote: amorphous wrote: Haya ujumbe ndiyo hiyo, you peons need to take notes from THE MASTER, the GURU the HEAD HONCHO of NSE investing in Kenya today (after S Mutaga III Esq, former holder of the crown, cut his losses chap chap presumably due to covid19( ) and quietly retired, well humbled and chastened by the whippings of the NSE, to join the rest of us on THE BENCH ). Baseline as he requested by VVS himself was June 4th. Updates to be delivered monthly. So far all we see is red but time will tell! NIMESEMA! @Mugundaman, I never retired. I just knew when to exit the market. If you have a good head on your shoulders, you should know that you can't be in the NSE 24/7. I look for opportunities and seize them. There have been none for a while so I stayed out. As simple as that. My trades are public knowledge Mr. I didn't make any losses. But you are one irritating and annoying character who likes making claims without evidence. Go back to the threads where I posted my trades and see that record before making baseless comments you cannot substantiate. 93% return in 2014: http://wazua.co.ke/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=27314 60%+ return in 2019: http://m.wazua.co.ke/for...sts&t=37100&p=7 Good stuff.I also exited all my NSE positions in early February.I started getting out of the market in January.I was just lucky to sell KCB and Equity in early January at the intermediate top of 55 KES where this price has been resistance for both counters in the last few years.Once I heard of the Wuhan lockdown on January 23rd,I knew Covid-19 would be a menace and by February 5th I was completely out of the NSE so I avoided the entire Covid-19 sell off on the Nairobi bourse. I reallocated my funds to a money market fund and most of it to Wall Street (I am no NSE expert,Wall Street is my forte)where the mad volatility there has seen me gain massively as the NSE wallows.I will be back to the NSE once Covid-19 is resolved Sir. How do you access wallstreet assuming that you are based here in Kenya.Which platform or broker do you use? *Since men have learned to shoot without missing, I have learned to fly without perching*
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VituVingiSana		#25 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2020 12:27:42 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,375 Location: Nairobi		amorphous wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: amorphous wrote: VVS has gone "into hiding" now that his portfolio is up here in black and white. Wacha tuone where these millions he is living on strictly off hisa since 2010 ( ) are coming from sasa. Next update July 4th! Ngai! There is no pleasing you? I have given you the portfolio breakdown. I have other things to enjoy while the COVID restrictions are slowly lifted. I am more interested in semi-annual updates given the nature of long-term investing. On an interesting note, Centum paid off its note today. I will be relatively passive on this thread since the Portfolio (over the longer-term period) will do the talking expect for updates as to any significant changes in my portfolio. I commend your being open to this challenge Let's see how things pan out. You may prove me wrong, who knows? Will that shut you up? Granted it may take 4 years as the original challenge http://wazua.co.ke/forum...007&f=1&q=896893 Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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Jon Jones		#26 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2020 3:16:25 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 245 Location: Thika		VituVingiSana wrote: amorphous wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: [quote=amorphous]VVS has gone "into hiding" now that his portfolio is up here in black and white. Wacha tuone where these millions he is living on strictly off hisa since 2010 ( ) are coming from sasa. Next update July 4th! Ngai! There is no pleasing you? I have given you the portfolio breakdown. I have other things to enjoy while the COVID restrictions are slowly lifted. I am more interested in semi-annual updates given the nature of long-term investing. On an interesting note, Centum paid off its note today. I will be relatively passive on this thread since the Portfolio (over the longer-term period) will do the talking expect for updates as to any significant changes in my portfolio. I commend your being open to this challenge Let's see how things pan out. You may prove me wrong, who knows Will that shut you up? Granted it may take 4 years as the original challenge http://wazua.co.ke/forum...07&f=1&q=896893 Don't waste time explaining to an idiot that land in dustbowl isn't the only road to riches. *Since men have learned to shoot without missing, I have learned to fly without perching*
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amorphous		#27 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2020 4:39:47 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/15/2019 Posts: 687 Location: planet earth		VituVingiSana wrote: Will that shut you up? Granted it may take 4 years as the original challenge http://wazua.co.ke/forum...07&f=1&q=896893 It will. You keep extending the time frame Your original claim was you are not an employee and you "live off hisa trading" That's the true challenge. How are you eating this month since you have neither bought nor sold anything nor received any dividend? In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
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VituVingiSana		#28 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2020 7:06:29 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,375 Location: Nairobi		amorphous wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: Will that shut you up? Granted it may take 4 years as the original challenge http://wazua.co.ke/forum...07&f=1&q=896893 It will. You keep extending the time frame Your original claim was you are not an employee and you "live off hisa trading" That's the true challenge. How are you eating this month since you have neither bought nor sold anything nor received any dividend? False, 4 years quoted here http://wazua.co.ke/forum...07&f=1&q=896893 [/quote] I also have cash from some dividends came in but less than I would usually get by June. I sold some TPS http://wazua.co.ke/forum...21&f=1&q=896688 you are not an employee and you "live off hisa trading" I am not an employee. I do not live off trading but I get dividends, interest and cash inflows from sales of shares. For years, I have spent less than I earn from dividends/gains. It doesn't bother me that my needs are simple. The "portfolio value" provided was just a means to make it easier for tracking. I am content. Let's leave it that. Now how about some peace and quiet? I will provide updates on any major trades. I am always buying small (cheap) lots with the cash on hand. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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amorphous		#29 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2020 7:07:53 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/15/2019 Posts: 687 Location: planet earth		VituVingiSana wrote: amorphous wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: Will that shut you up? Granted it may take 4 years as the original challenge http://wazua.co.ke/forum...07&f=1&q=896893 It will. You keep extending the time frame Your original claim was you are not an employee and you "live off hisa trading" That's the true challenge. How are you eating this month since you have neither bought nor sold anything nor received any dividend? False, 4 years quoted here http://wazua.co.ke/forum...07&f=1&q=896893 I also have cash from some dividends came in but less than I would usually get by June. I sold some TPS http://wazua.co.ke/forum...21&f=1&q=896688 For years, I have spent less than I earn from dividends/gains. It doesn't bother me that my needs are simple. The "portfolio value" provided was just a means to make it easier for tracking. I am content. Let's leave it that. [/quote] sawa. In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
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Receptor		#30 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2020 8:20:39 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2019 Posts: 119		There are only two ways to make a living out of the NSE casino. 1. Number one is to have a core list of 12 hisas representing 12 months. Each hisa should give a dividend of minimum 120 gees(minus withhoding tax)....note this vary per individual. Some wazua elders have claimed that their living standards equals 300 ngwanyes per month.(kila mbuzi akule kwa urefu wa kamba yake) 2. Number two is wekelea-ing an amount of say 1 million shillings and playing pata-potea with the bluest of the bluechips. For example you can play Safaricom numerous times in a year entering at 26 and alighting at 29. However, be warned, you have to have a back-up source of income because value traps humu humu ni nyingi. I foresee @amorphous a.k.a jamaa wa ground-zero(formely Jamaa wa ku-flip burgers) violently shuttering some long held myths hapa wazua.
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