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alma1
#1911 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2020 11:22:15 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/19/2015
Posts: 2,871
Location: hapo
@Masukuma I have found a common denominator with people who still believe this is all a hoax.

They are undeniable Trump supporters. Same kind of mentality that supports Magufuli.

It's not their fault. It is very hard to believe that something you trusted was stupid after all. It means you call yourself stupid. They would rather die with Trump. Especially the African ones. Those are more radical than even his voters.

If in these 3 months someone has not found out that this thing is more dangerous than we are being told, then we can't help such a person. I for one won't let them near anything I care about.

As we are all talking a lot of nonsense, China has tested 9 million...Let me repeat...9 million inhabitants of Wuhan in 2 weeks. They found some 200 guys still willing to spread that thing.

Yes, 9 million. It seems the Communists love their citizens more and are willing to move the mountains to save their own people.

The rest of us are still arguing about Bill Gates, sijui vaccines, sijui herd sijui, chloroquin, madagascar herbs....sijui what!
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

masukuma
#1912 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2020 11:30:45 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
alma1 wrote:
@Masukuma I have found a common denominator with people who still believe this is all a hoax.

They are undeniable Trump supporters. Same kind of mentality that supports Magufuli.

It's not their fault. It is very hard to believe that something you trusted was stupid after all. It means you call yourself stupid. They would rather die with Trump. Especially the African ones. Those are more radical than even his voters.

If in these 3 months someone has not found out that this thing is more dangerous than we are being told, then we can't help such a person. I for one won't let them near anything I care about.

As we are all talking a lot of nonsense, China has tested 9 million...Let me repeat...9 million inhabitants of Wuhan in 2 weeks. They found some 200 guys still willing to spread that thing.

Yes, 9 million. It seems the Communists love their citizens more and are willing to move the mountains to save their own people.

The rest of us are still arguing about Bill Gates, sijui vaccines, sijui herd sijui, chloroquin, madagascar herbs....sijui what!


yeap! it's textbook cognitive dissonance! they subconsciously know that self-image would be hurt if they accepted that they were WRONG at the start and the actions they took were WRONG or LATE. But few people have the capacity to look themselves in the mirror and say... I was actually Wrong... they instead dig in! None of them would ever mention an east Asian country in a discussion... these countries don't confirm their explanations. No one will say... our system is not built for such disasters - what can we do to ensure that we have a system that works in this age? nope... it was Bill Gates/WHO/China/Democrats/Ferguson who is to blame....
its predictable human behavior... except that they are trying to convince people who saw them coming a mile away...
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
masukuma
#1913 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2020 11:39:59 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
Perhaps what they need to do is look at the who debacle as a blame pizza.
It has lots of small slices... they can dish out these blame slices to whoever they deem fit... WHO... China... The "Fake News Media"... "OBAMA! because he left shelves empty" but they should remember that after they are done.... THEY WILL STILL HAVE SOME REALLY BIG SLICES OF BLAME LEFT FOR THEM TO EAT!

Kuna slice zao hapo ndani... and they know it!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
mpobiz
#1914 Posted : Friday, May 29, 2020 7:32:41 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 8/10/2010
Posts: 2,264
masukuma wrote:
alma1 wrote:
@Masukuma I have found a common denominator with people who still believe this is all a hoax.

They are undeniable Trump supporters. Same kind of mentality that supports Magufuli.

It's not their fault. It is very hard to believe that something you trusted was stupid after all. It means you call yourself stupid. They would rather die with Trump. Especially the African ones. Those are more radical than even his voters.

If in these 3 months someone has not found out that this thing is more dangerous than we are being told, then we can't help such a person. I for one won't let them near anything I care about.

As we are all talking a lot of nonsense, China has tested 9 million...Let me repeat...9 million inhabitants of Wuhan in 2 weeks. They found some 200 guys still willing to spread that thing.

Yes, 9 million. It seems the Communists love their citizens more and are willing to move the mountains to save their own people.

The rest of us are still arguing about Bill Gates, sijui vaccines, sijui herd sijui, chloroquin, madagascar herbs....sijui what!


yeap! it's textbook cognitive dissonance! they subconsciously know that self-image would be hurt if they accepted that they were WRONG at the start and the actions they took were WRONG or LATE. But few people have the capacity to look themselves in the mirror and say... I was actually Wrong... they instead dig in! None of them would ever mention an east Asian country in a discussion... these countries don't confirm their explanations. No one will say... our system is not built for such disasters - what can we do to ensure that we have a system that works in this age? nope... it was Bill Gates/WHO/China/Democrats/Ferguson who is to blame....
its predictable human behavior... except that they are trying to convince people who saw them coming a mile away...


First we dont think this thing is a hoax. Also we don't say it's not a dangerous thing. All we say is that all deseases are dangerous to some people than others.
In that regard we should not live like cowards. We should also not be selfish. Our future generations depend on this economy. Let us not destroy it as we hide under the beds for this thing to pass.
Thank Jesus our leaders are better thinkers than you two people. You don't understand that if we disregard the economy millions of people will suffer or die of economic related factors like hunger ,mental breakdown and other poverty related illnesses.

Yes I have always supported conservative thinkers. Not those useless democratic fags.
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
Dahatre
#1915 Posted : Friday, May 29, 2020 2:21:12 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 12/21/2009
Posts: 602
amorphous wrote:
corona is a scam
US deaths are highly exaggerated.
Their own DOH told the whole world that they are classifying every single death for which a positive test for the virus occurs during autopsy as a corona death.
Example..you are very healthy and crash your car into a tree and pass away. When they do your autopsy, they discover you were a latent carrier of the virus. Your death is listed as corona death Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Also, do your research and you will find out how hospitals are being paid/incentivised to goose their corona numbers. Endgame is of course a mandatory vaccine you will pay through the nose for!!

Nimesema!
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Anywho…
1. Certifying deaths is a messy process even under normal circumstances especially for people who die at home or those who die after being hospitalized for less than 48 hours. Even with autopsies, there will be errors, but errors go both ways.
2. Falsifying medical records is a crime. One can lose their license to practice medicine for lying on a death certificate
3. Most medical teams taking care of Covid 19 patients have been trained in how to certify Covid deaths even here in .KE

In any event, demographers will let us know whether there is over counting of CV deaths e.g by comparing 2020 total deaths with averages from 10-15 years prior. Any excess deaths in 2020 can be attributed to CV---easy peasy!
masukuma
#1916 Posted : Friday, May 29, 2020 3:39:47 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
mpobiz wrote:
masukuma wrote:
alma1 wrote:
@Masukuma I have found a common denominator with people who still believe this is all a hoax.

They are undeniable Trump supporters. Same kind of mentality that supports Magufuli.

It's not their fault. It is very hard to believe that something you trusted was stupid after all. It means you call yourself stupid. They would rather die with Trump. Especially the African ones. Those are more radical than even his voters.

If in these 3 months someone has not found out that this thing is more dangerous than we are being told, then we can't help such a person. I for one won't let them near anything I care about.

As we are all talking a lot of nonsense, China has tested 9 million...Let me repeat...9 million inhabitants of Wuhan in 2 weeks. They found some 200 guys still willing to spread that thing.

Yes, 9 million. It seems the Communists love their citizens more and are willing to move the mountains to save their own people.

The rest of us are still arguing about Bill Gates, sijui vaccines, sijui herd sijui, chloroquin, madagascar herbs....sijui what!


yeap! it's textbook cognitive dissonance! they subconsciously know that self-image would be hurt if they accepted that they were WRONG at the start and the actions they took were WRONG or LATE. But few people have the capacity to look themselves in the mirror and say... I was actually Wrong... they instead dig in! None of them would ever mention an east Asian country in a discussion... these countries don't confirm their explanations. No one will say... our system is not built for such disasters - what can we do to ensure that we have a system that works in this age? nope... it was Bill Gates/WHO/China/Democrats/Ferguson who is to blame....
its predictable human behavior... except that they are trying to convince people who saw them coming a mile away...


First we dont think this thing is a hoax. Also we don't say it's not a dangerous thing. All we say is that all deseases are dangerous to some people than others.
In that regard we should not live like cowards. We should also not be selfish. Our future generations depend on this economy. Let us not destroy it as we hide under the beds for this thing to pass.
Thank Jesus our leaders are better thinkers than you two people. You don't understand that if we disregard the economy millions of people will suffer or die of economic related factors like hunger ,mental breakdown and other poverty related illnesses.

Yes I have always supported conservative thinkers. Not those useless democratic fags.



Then you must be a poor communicator...
We all agree that the economy should be open up.... @wanjohi, @alma, @me,@bigchick. We all agree it should be open. the devil is in the details of how. You say WEAR A MASK and everything goes back to normal, watoto waende shule kama kawaida... and wagonjwa waende hospitali. That's it! Of course, we disagree on the HOW! The reason you give to why we should do these actions is IRRESPONSIBLE!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
aemathenge
#1917 Posted : Saturday, May 30, 2020 8:48:30 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,434
Location: Kerugoya
"I am an avid supporter of continued coronavirus preventive behavioural safeguards continuing post the pandemic.

In the proximity of a peri-urban locality, the folks here are steeped in practices everything that is anti-social distancing.

They have, however, grudgingly been forced not to crowd at funerals, congregate for worship or socialise at entertainment joints.

They see the Covid-19 safety guidelines as a game of chance; the seriousness of coronavirus hasn’t sunk in yet.

Elsewhere, people are getting infected, losing jobs, starving, dying.

Yet here, those who should know better are raving mad, thinking the virus is a joke told too many times “by the government”.

I’m talking about the market criers – kadogo economists, alcoholic teacher, deceitful preacher missing tithes and boda boda know-alls.

Granted there is a trust issue by folk with Serikali, many are pathological pessimists who escape into “God will save us” mythology.

This is why they still handshake, embrace, don’t wash hands and sanitise.

It’s why the matatu is still overloaded; boda boda carries a mother, two children, the maid and shopping; eateries buzz with flies; and un-sanitised shoppers touch every item with grim palms.

Handwashing containers dotting shop doorsteps have no water.

Here, Covid-19 is a bane of jokes, not grim reality, ni story tu.

That’s why the facemask is worn as a totem necktie."

Source: The Star: https://www.the-star.co....n-preventive-healthcare/
masukuma
#1918 Posted : Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:46:49 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
aemathenge wrote:
"I am an avid supporter of continued coronavirus preventive behavioural safeguards continuing post the pandemic.

In the proximity of a peri-urban locality, the folks here are steeped in practices everything that is anti-social distancing.

They have, however, grudgingly been forced not to crowd at funerals, congregate for worship or socialise at entertainment joints.

They see the Covid-19 safety guidelines as a game of chance; the seriousness of coronavirus hasn’t sunk in yet.

Elsewhere, people are getting infected, losing jobs, starving, dying.

Yet here, those who should know better are raving mad, thinking the virus is a joke told too many times “by the government”.

I’m talking about the market criers – kadogo economists, alcoholic teacher, deceitful preacher missing tithes and boda boda know-alls.

Granted there is a trust issue by folk with Serikali, many are pathological pessimists who escape into “God will save us” mythology.

This is why they still handshake, embrace, don’t wash hands and sanitise.

It’s why the matatu is still overloaded; boda boda carries a mother, two children, the maid and shopping; eateries buzz with flies; and un-sanitised shoppers touch every item with grim palms.

Handwashing containers dotting shop doorsteps have no water.

Here, Covid-19 is a bane of jokes, not grim reality, ni story tu.

That’s why the facemask is worn as a totem necktie."

Source: The Star: https://www.the-star.co....-preventive-healthcare/


If only the behavior of the disease was subject to our perception of it! If only the seriousness of the issue was subject to our perception of it...
Yesterday Brazil added close to 30k new cases and 1100+ deaths. Almost getting to half a million cases on its shore.

Majuto ni mjukuu!

All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
masukuma
#1919 Posted : Saturday, May 30, 2020 12:55:27 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
The coronavirus still has a long way to go. That’s the message from a crop of new studies across the world that are trying to quantify how many people have been infected. It's accepted that the disease would need to have +60% of the population infected and recovered for us to get herd immunity. a few studies have been done and it seems that most hard-hit places have a long way to go before they get there.

New York had 19.9% number of its citizens infected on May 2nd.
London has about 17.5% on May 21st,
Madrid has had about 11.3% on May 13th
Barcelona had 7.1% infected on May 13th
Boston has had about 9.9% on May 15th
Stockholm area - 7.3% on May 20th


All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
mpobiz
#1920 Posted : Saturday, May 30, 2020 11:36:13 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 8/10/2010
Posts: 2,264
The bishop has conquered the corona.
It's now clear what we( followers of makufuli) have always said.
This is just homa.anyone with the right attitude will be okay.

https://youtu.be/2Z3S8y4-TYE

Listen to her very carefully. She showed no symptoms. This thing is everywhere.

It's time for partey after partey Drool Drool
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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