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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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kaka2za wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we'  defeat it chapchap we move on. ODM would gladly end this government's reign trust me. True but why should they? Remember Mt Kenya voters didn't vote for UMK They voted against Kimundu. ODM is being cleansed ,so no need of rocking the boat. Anything to get the country to the ballot is welcome for them. Who knows they will still be living in 2022? Those are wild dreams, it wont happen. Remember they view Ruto as stubborn na yeye 'hijiskia'. By the way since 2013, UMK has shown reconciliation here and there, Ruto has not. Wait for removal of Deputy Speaker debate tomorrow (disclaimer - i don't support what they are doing). Reconcile for beating someone in an election? How many poles will one receive? Kindiki is ready to go. He has already stated he's not begging anyone. Lakini slice that Meru(Tharaka Nithi) Vote out. Next its the National Assembly, here the target is Linturi (Tigania, Laare, Igembe) That is 3/4 of Meru vote. To quote Moses Kuria, "wakimwaga unga, tunamwaga kitoweo" You know, there's nothing UK can do to Ruto. I stated before when Rollout suggested that UK should fire Ruto...He stuck with him so its either he makes it work or throws the baby with the bath water...at the end of it all he's going home Ruto still has a chance to be President and honestly this whole rift is catapulting him there. Who's got anything to lose? You are getting ahead of yourself boss, we are discussion impeachment whereas all that you have written up here has little to do with it. Our MPs wont impeach the president because of selfishness among the political players in Kenya. I can assure you it wont happen, those are imaginations of a few Ruto followers. Jubilee will also recall all nominated MPs on their side if they participate in such a stunt. No MP is unrecallable. All the cards are on the table and there's no monopoly on who's holding them. In short am just letting you know nothing is an impossibility Anyway Ruto MPs are all talk, with no action. They will just cry foul mostly blaming Raila whereas they are being finywad from within. UMK wont be impeached, those are cheap talk. It wont happen. What happened to @murchr? Prior to 2018 he made the right calls. I didn't agree with some of them but his analysis was right on the money. He seems to have lost his way somewhat! Needs to make a quick U turn. What makes you think am wrong now? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we' defeat it chapchap we move on. ODM would gladly end this government's reign trust me. True but why should they? Remember Mt Kenya voters didn't vote for UMK They voted against Kimundu. ODM is being cleansed ,so no need of rocking the boat. Anything to get the country to the ballot is welcome for them. Who knows they will still be living in 2022? Ballot? You impeach Uhuru, Ruto becomes President till the next polls!
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Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we' defeat it chapchap we move on. ODM would gladly end this government's reign trust me. True but why should they? Remember Mt Kenya voters didn't vote for UMK They voted against Kimundu. ODM is being cleansed ,so no need of rocking the boat. Anything to get the country to the ballot is welcome for them. Who knows they will still be living in 2022? Ballot? You impeach Uhuru, Ruto becomes President till the next polls! Impeachment would not be smooth anyway, the target here is to run the clock while wasting everyone's time. The biggest looser ...Mr Kinyatta "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we' defeat it chapchap we move on. ODM would gladly end this government's reign trust me. True but why should they? Remember Mt Kenya voters didn't vote for UMK They voted against Kimundu. ODM is being cleansed ,so no need of rocking the boat. Anything to get the country to the ballot is welcome for them. Who knows they will still be living in 2022? Ballot? You impeach Uhuru, Ruto becomes President till the next polls! Impeachment would not be smooth anyway, the target here is to run the clock while wasting everyone's time. The biggest looser ...Mr Kinyatta Ati what, not Kenyans? Boss.... In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we' defeat it chapchap we move on. ODM would gladly end this government's reign trust me. True but why should they? Remember Mt Kenya voters didn't vote for UMK They voted against Kimundu. ODM is being cleansed ,so no need of rocking the boat. Anything to get the country to the ballot is welcome for them. Who knows they will still be living in 2022? Ballot? You impeach Uhuru, Ruto becomes President till the next polls! Impeachment would not be smooth anyway, the target here is to run the clock while wasting everyone's time. The biggest looser ...Mr Kinyatta Ati what, not Kenyans? Boss.... The clock has been running ama? We have around 2 years to the end of Mr Kinyatta's time, 3 years wasted reconciling. Count out 2020 the clock is still running. Gloves will be totally off Dec 31 2020 "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we' defeat it chapchap we move on. ODM would gladly end this government's reign trust me. True but why should they? Remember Mt Kenya voters didn't vote for UMK They voted against Kimundu. ODM is being cleansed ,so no need of rocking the boat. Anything to get the country to the ballot is welcome for them. Who knows they will still be living in 2022? Ballot? You impeach Uhuru, Ruto becomes President till the next polls! Impeachment would not be smooth anyway, the target here is to run the clock while wasting everyone's time. The biggest looser ...Mr Kinyatta Ati what, not Kenyans? Boss.... The clock has been running ama? We have around 2 years to the end of Mr Kinyatta's time, 3 years wasted reconciling. Count out 2020 the clock is still running. Gloves will be totally off Dec 31 2020 UMK's regime failure means nothing to him as an individual vis a vis the number of Kenyans he has left poor and/or worse than he found them. Plus the economy's poor performance hurts more than his legacy. So it doesnt matter what happens to him, it is we the people on the chopping board. UMK's failure was obvious to some of us since 2002, na ni hayo tu. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we' defeat it chapchap we move on. ODM would gladly end this government's reign trust me. True but why should they? Remember Mt Kenya voters didn't vote for UMK They voted against Kimundu. ODM is being cleansed ,so no need of rocking the boat. Anything to get the country to the ballot is welcome for them. Who knows they will still be living in 2022? Ballot? You impeach Uhuru, Ruto becomes President till the next polls! Impeachment would not be smooth anyway, the target here is to run the clock while wasting everyone's time. The biggest looser ...Mr Kinyatta Ati what, not Kenyans? Boss.... The clock has been running ama? We have around 2 years to the end of Mr Kinyatta's time, 3 years wasted reconciling. Count out 2020 the clock is still running. Gloves will be totally off Dec 31 2020 UMK's regime failure means nothing to him as an individual vis a vis the number of Kenyans he has left poor and/or worse than he found them. Plus the economy's poor performance hurts more than his legacy. So it doesnt matter what happens to him, it is we the people on the chopping board. UMK's failure was obvious to some of us since 2002, na ni hayo tu. I am not worried about the present because the damage is already done. During the KANU era,we had hope in the opposition that had people like Kibaki,RAO,Wamalwa etc In contrast, the choices now are Gideon, Ruto,Mdvd and Watermelon. There is no hope,no future for our beloved country. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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kaka2za wrote:I am not worried about the present because the damage is already done
During the KANU era, we had hope in the opposition that had people like Kibaki, RAO, Wamalwa, etc
In contrast, the choices now are Gideon, Ruto, Mdvd, and Watermelon. There is no hope, no future for our beloved country. Tried and tested. His Excellency Kibutha Kibwana. His Excellency Alfred Mutua. Her Excellency Charity Ngiru. Hon. Muhisa Kitui. His Excellency Oparanya. I could go on all day. Supposing DP Ruto decided to pick any one of the above and declared him or her tosha, what would your opinion change? As the "Wanjinga Nyinyi" Kid eloquently pointed out, it is no longer about the candidates but it boils down to the voters collectively. If you, and your generation, can only see Gideon, Ruto, Mdvd, and Watermelon, then "Houston, we have a problem." Just a thought. Just a thought.
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Tribunal throws out Kihika, Kositany bid to revoke Jubilee NMC changes In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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 The Shirt He Was Wearing. It is a direct challenge to Wanjohi Wa Mashati. The Shoes. Oh, The Shoes. I Love. I LOVE. I LOOOVVVEEEEE Quote:“What we saw in Kikuyu is that the Deputy President was telling the President that he is not going to be cowed.
Honesty, there are very many places that the DP could have distributed food.
For him to choose to do it in the President’s backyard is trying to send the message that he can go the President’s backyard without his permission,” Nyeri Town MP Ngunjiri Wambugu told the Star.
“The fact that the food that he was giving was branded in his name is part of that defiance… Source Link:https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-05-22-defiant-ruto-takes-war-to-uhurus-backyard/
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aemathenge wrote:kaka2za wrote:I am not worried about the present because the damage is already done
During the KANU era, we had hope in the opposition that had people like Kibaki, RAO, Wamalwa, etc
In contrast, the choices now are Gideon, Ruto, Mdvd, and Watermelon. There is no hope, no future for our beloved country. Tried and tested. His Excellency Kibutha Kibwana. His Excellency Alfred Mutua. Her Excellency Charity Ngiru. Hon. Muhisa Kitui. His Excellency Oparanya. I could go on all day. Supposing DP Ruto decided to pick any one of the above and declared him or her tosha, what would your opinion change? As the "Wanjinga Nyinyi" Kid eloquently pointed out, it is no longer about the candidates but it boils down to the voters collectively. If you, and your generation, can only see Gideon, Ruto, Mdvd, and Watermelon, then "Houston, we have a problem." Just a thought. Just a thought. To answer your question, yes my opinion would change. But we know none of the leaders listed stand any chance. They represent change and those in power including WSR want to maintain status quo. To become president in Kenya you need two things: 1. Numbers(Big tribe) 2.Money, lots of money Ability to lead is an added advantage. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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aemathenge wrote:The Shirt He Was Wearing. It is a direct challenge to Wanjohi Wa Mashati. The Shoes. Oh, The Shoes. I Love. I LOVE. I LOOOVVVEEEEE Quote:“What we saw in Kikuyu is that the Deputy President was telling the President that he is not going to be cowed.
Honesty, there are very many places that the DP could have distributed food.
For him to choose to do it in the President’s backyard is trying to send the message that he can go the President’s backyard without his permission,” Nyeri Town MP Ngunjiri Wambugu told the Star.
“The fact that the food that he was giving was branded in his name is part of that defiance… Source Link:https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-05-22-defiant-ruto-takes-war-to-uhurus-backyard/ I like and support, great!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Angelica _ann wrote:aemathenge wrote: The Shirt He Was Wearing. It is a direct challenge to Wanjohi Wa Mashati. The Shoes. Oh, The Shoes. I Love. I LOVE. I LOOOVVVEEEEE Quote:“What we saw in Kikuyu is that the Deputy President was telling the President that he is not going to be cowed.
Honesty, there are very many places that the DP could have distributed food.
For him to choose to do it in the President’s backyard is trying to send the message that he can go the President’s backyard without his permission,” Nyeri Town MP Ngunjiri Wambugu told the Star.
“The fact that the food that he was giving was branded in his name is part of that defiance… Source Link:https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-05-22-defiant-ruto-takes-war-to-uhurus-backyard/ I like and support, great!!! @AA ..You are becoming master (or is it mistress) of satire! Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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kaka2za wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:aemathenge wrote:The Shirt He Was Wearing. It is a direct challenge to Wanjohi Wa Mashati. The Shoes. Oh, The Shoes. I Love. I LOVE. I LOOOVVVEEEEE Quote:“What we saw in Kikuyu is that the Deputy President was telling the President that he is not going to be cowed.
Honesty, there are very many places that the DP could have distributed food.
For him to choose to do it in the President’s backyard is trying to send the message that he can go the President’s backyard without his permission,” Nyeri Town MP Ngunjiri Wambugu told the Star.
“The fact that the food that he was giving was branded in his name is part of that defiance… Source Link:https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-05-22-defiant-ruto-takes-war-to-uhurus-backyard/ I like and support, great!!! @AA ..You are becoming master (or is it mistress) of satire! Galana failed proper under your watch and you come showing us this, sure??? Wajinga sisi In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rasputin!? We shall revisit. Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Kindiki out - Whah 54 + (2) vs 7, wapi impeachment motion for the President. Though what they have done is very sad and unacceptable. Irungu Kangata's sycophancy and Lusaka's licking is at some crazy decibels. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Angelica _ann wrote:Kindiki out - Whah 54 + (2) vs 7, wapi impeachment motion for the President. Though what they have done is very sad and unacceptable.
Irungu Kangata's sycophancy and Lusaka's licking is at some crazy decibels. Wah, Uhuru needs to invite this guy to State house for a cup of tea and hear him out. Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Ngalaka wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Kindiki out - Whah 54 + (2) vs 7, wapi impeachment motion for the President. Though what they have done is very sad and unacceptable.
Irungu Kangata's sycophancy and Lusaka's licking is at some crazy decibels. Wah, Uhuru needs to invite this guy to State house for a cup of tea and hear him out. "There are those who thought I could be cajoled or even threatened in engaging in what in my view is a treasonable project that would destroy this country. .. Humility is not a sign of weakness," Kindiki said.All he needs to do is to wait for uhuru in tharaka with his project the roles will be reversed
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Angelica _ann wrote:Kindiki out - Whah 54 + (2) vs 7, wapi impeachment motion for the President. Though what they have done is very sad and unacceptable.
Irungu Kangata's sycophancy and Lusaka's licking is at some crazy decibels. Both sides had been whipped to support their parties' stand. Only Kang'ata made a strong case. Everybody else was commiserating with Kindiki & praising him before saying they supported the motion to oust him.
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Angelica _ann wrote:Kindiki out - Whah 54 + (2) vs 7, wapi impeachment motion for the President. Though what they have done is very sad and unacceptable.
Irungu Kangata's sycophancy and Lusaka's licking is at some crazy decibels. Wasn't this obvious? If they were to impeach the president now it would be perfect to run the clock down and waste everyone's time not necessarily to win. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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