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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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aemathenge wrote:murchr wrote:UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. ... except for that small issue of taking massive loans to be paid by future generations ... You and the future generation will pay whether UK leaves today or 2032. I dont know if a day passes with no mention of someone extending a loan to this jamuhuri. Meanwhile no effort is being put in place to have local production of consumable items, even nincompoops like Pombe can laugh at us. Honestly, I wish Kibaki had the environment that Uhuru has had (having a solid government in both houses, Kibaki had a tough 2nd term and a messed up first term which he served by ignoring the political noise) Kenya would have overtaken Nigeria even without oil. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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murchr wrote:aemathenge wrote:murchr wrote:UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. ... except for that small issue of taking massive loans to be paid by future generations ... You and the future generation will pay whether UK leaves today or 2032. I dont know if a day passes with no mention of someone extending a loan to this jamuhuri. Meanwhile no effort is being put in place to have local production of consumable items, even nincompoops like Pombe can laugh at us. Honestly, I wish Kibaki had the environment that Uhuru has had (having a solid government in both houses, Kibaki had a tough 2nd term and a messed up first term which he served by ignoring the political noise) Kenya would have overtaken Nigeria even without oil. It's very depressing when UMK unashamedly claims his Legacy is to unite Kenya. It's like he inherited a post Genocide Rwanda. He has wasted 10 yrs doing nothing. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we'  defeat it chapchap we move on. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Gathige wrote:murchr wrote:aemathenge wrote:murchr wrote:UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. ... except for that small issue of taking massive loans to be paid by future generations ... You and the future generation will pay whether UK leaves today or 2032. I dont know if a day passes with no mention of someone extending a loan to this jamuhuri. Meanwhile no effort is being put in place to have local production of consumable items, even nincompoops like Pombe can laugh at us. Honestly, I wish Kibaki had the environment that Uhuru has had (having a solid government in both houses, Kibaki had a tough 2nd term and a messed up first term which he served by ignoring the political noise) Kenya would have overtaken Nigeria even without oil. It's very depressing when UMK unashamedly claims his Legacy is to unite Kenya. It's like he inherited a post Genocide Rwanda. He has wasted 10 yrs doing nothing. You guys honestly thought UMK would do anything good for the economy when you supported him then, poleni. Personally I think among our likely future presidents, Kenya is doomed. There is no hope. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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AlphDoti wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:I still have my doubts about the UMK/WSR divide.
Too open
Too predictable
Choreographed? Contain Baba until early 2022. Me too think so!!! I think it is well agreed between the two to play the game It's easier to control your own Bush fire rather than wait for something or someone else to light the fire. But for any outsider it is still a fire. Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. They have no say here "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. They have no say here 90%+++ of Kenyan voters vote based on what they are told within their groupings, not what they think is right. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we' defeat it chapchap we move on. ODM would gladly end this government's reign trust me. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we' defeat it chapchap we move on. ODM would gladly end this government's reign trust me. True but why should they? Remember Mt Kenya voters didn't vote for UMK They voted against Kimundu. ODM is being cleansed ,so no need of rocking the boat. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we' defeat it chapchap we move on. ODM would gladly end this government's reign trust me. True but why should they? Remember Mt Kenya voters didn't vote for UMK They voted against Kimundu. ODM is being cleansed ,so no need of rocking the boat. ODM is just seeing and saying we told you so in 2013, many years ago - cant be trusted!!!!! ODM is enjoying Ruto's misery than UMK's failures, hata sisi huko mashinani. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we' defeat it chapchap we move on. ODM would gladly end this government's reign trust me. True but why should they? Remember Mt Kenya voters didn't vote for UMK They voted against Kimundu. ODM is being cleansed ,so no need of rocking the boat. Anything to get the country to the ballot is welcome for them. Who knows they will still be living in 2022? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we' defeat it chapchap we move on. ODM would gladly end this government's reign trust me. True but why should they? Remember Mt Kenya voters didn't vote for UMK They voted against Kimundu. ODM is being cleansed ,so no need of rocking the boat. Anything to get the country to the ballot is welcome for them. Who knows they will still be living in 2022? Those are wild dreams, it wont happen. Remember they view Ruto as stubborn na yeye 'hijiskia'. By the way since 2013, UMK has shown reconciliation here and there, Ruto has not. Wait for removal of Deputy Speaker debate tomorrow (disclaimer - i don't support what they are doing). In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we' defeat it chapchap we move on. ODM would gladly end this government's reign trust me. True but why should they? Remember Mt Kenya voters didn't vote for UMK They voted against Kimundu. ODM is being cleansed ,so no need of rocking the boat. Anything to get the country to the ballot is welcome for them. Who knows they will still be living in 2022? Those are wild dreams, it wont happen. Remember they view Ruto as stubborn na yeye 'hijiskia'. By the way since 2013, UMK has shown reconciliation here and there, Ruto has not. Wait for removal of Deputy Speaker debate tomorrow (disclaimer - i don't support what they are doing). Reconcile for beating someone in an election? How many poles will one receive? Kindiki is ready to go. He has already stated he's not begging anyone. Lakini slice that Meru(Tharaka Nithi) Vote out. Next its the National Assembly, here the target is Linturi (Tigania, Laare, Igembe) That is 3/4 of Meru vote. To quote Moses Kuria, "wakimwaga unga, tunamwaga kitoweo" You know, there's nothing UK can do to Ruto. I stated before when Rollout suggested that UK should fire Ruto...He stuck with him so its either he makes it work or throws the baby with the bath water...at the end of it all he's going home Ruto still has a chance to be President and honestly this whole rift is catapulting him there. Who's got anything to loose? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we' defeat it chapchap we move on. ODM would gladly end this government's reign trust me. True but why should they? Remember Mt Kenya voters didn't vote for UMK They voted against Kimundu. ODM is being cleansed ,so no need of rocking the boat. Anything to get the country to the ballot is welcome for them. Who knows they will still be living in 2022? Those are wild dreams, it wont happen. Remember they view Ruto as stubborn na yeye 'hijiskia'. By the way since 2013, UMK has shown reconciliation here and there, Ruto has not. Wait for removal of Deputy Speaker debate tomorrow (disclaimer - i don't support what they are doing). Reconcile for beating someone in an election? How many poles will one receive? Kindiki is ready to go. He has already stated he's not begging anyone. Lakini slice that Meru(Tharaka Nithi) Vote out. Next its the National Assembly, here the target is Linturi (Tigania, Laare, Igembe) That is 3/4 of Meru vote. To quote Moses Kuria, "wakimwaga unga, tunamwaga kitoweo" You know, there's nothing UK can do to Ruto. I stated before when Rollout suggested that UK should fire Ruto...He stuck with him so its either he makes it work or throws the baby with the bath water...at the end of it all he's going home Ruto still has a chance to be President and honestly this whole rift is catapulting him there. Who's got anything to lose? You are getting ahead of yourself boss, we are discussing impeachment (as advanced by you), whereas all that you have written up here has little to do with it. Our MPs wont impeach the president because of selfishness among the political players in Kenya. I can assure you it wont happen, those are imaginations of a few Ruto followers. Jubilee will also recall all nominated MPs on their side if they participate in such a stunt. You should also know that at the moment, Ruto has more enemies than friends. That will work against impeachment because it will be assumed that he has instigated the motion. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we' defeat it chapchap we move on. ODM would gladly end this government's reign trust me. True but why should they? Remember Mt Kenya voters didn't vote for UMK They voted against Kimundu. ODM is being cleansed ,so no need of rocking the boat. Anything to get the country to the ballot is welcome for them. Who knows they will still be living in 2022? Those are wild dreams, it wont happen. Remember they view Ruto as stubborn na yeye 'hijiskia'. By the way since 2013, UMK has shown reconciliation here and there, Ruto has not. Wait for removal of Deputy Speaker debate tomorrow (disclaimer - i don't support what they are doing). Reconcile for beating someone in an election? How many poles will one receive? Kindiki is ready to go. He has already stated he's not begging anyone. Lakini slice that Meru(Tharaka Nithi) Vote out. Next its the National Assembly, here the target is Linturi (Tigania, Laare, Igembe) That is 3/4 of Meru vote. To quote Moses Kuria, "wakimwaga unga, tunamwaga kitoweo" You know, there's nothing UK can do to Ruto. I stated before when Rollout suggested that UK should fire Ruto...He stuck with him so its either he makes it work or throws the baby with the bath water...at the end of it all he's going home Ruto still has a chance to be President and honestly this whole rift is catapulting him there. Who's got anything to lose? You are getting ahead of yourself boss, we are discussion impeachment whereas all that you have written up here has little to do with it. Our MPs wont impeach the president because of selfishness among the political players in Kenya. I can assure you it wont happen, those are imaginations of a few Ruto followers. Jubilee will also recall all nominated MPs on their side if they participate in such a stunt. No MP is unrecallable. All the cards are on the table and there's no monopoly on who's holding them. In short am just letting you know nothing is an impossibility "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we' defeat it chapchap we move on. ODM would gladly end this government's reign trust me. True but why should they? Remember Mt Kenya voters didn't vote for UMK They voted against Kimundu. ODM is being cleansed ,so no need of rocking the boat. Anything to get the country to the ballot is welcome for them. Who knows they will still be living in 2022? Those are wild dreams, it wont happen. Remember they view Ruto as stubborn na yeye 'hijiskia'. By the way since 2013, UMK has shown reconciliation here and there, Ruto has not. Wait for removal of Deputy Speaker debate tomorrow (disclaimer - i don't support what they are doing). Reconcile for beating someone in an election? How many poles will one receive? Kindiki is ready to go. He has already stated he's not begging anyone. Lakini slice that Meru(Tharaka Nithi) Vote out. Next its the National Assembly, here the target is Linturi (Tigania, Laare, Igembe) That is 3/4 of Meru vote. To quote Moses Kuria, "wakimwaga unga, tunamwaga kitoweo" You know, there's nothing UK can do to Ruto. I stated before when Rollout suggested that UK should fire Ruto...He stuck with him so its either he makes it work or throws the baby with the bath water...at the end of it all he's going home Ruto still has a chance to be President and honestly this whole rift is catapulting him there. Who's got anything to lose? You are getting ahead of yourself boss, we are discussion impeachment whereas all that you have written up here has little to do with it. Our MPs wont impeach the president because of selfishness among the political players in Kenya. I can assure you it wont happen, those are imaginations of a few Ruto followers. Jubilee will also recall all nominated MPs on their side if they participate in such a stunt. No MP is unrecallable. All the cards are on the table and there's no monopoly on who's holding them. In short am just letting you know nothing is an impossibility Anyway Ruto MPs are all talk, with no action. They will just cry foul mostly blaming Raila whereas they are being finywad from within. Plus no Kikuyu oriented MP would vote for such a motion, would be the end of their political career. UMK wont be impeached, those are cheap talk. It wont happen. Plus the recall clause for MPs wont work if initiated by common man, but if government wants you out, it will be chapchap. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we' defeat it chapchap we move on. ODM would gladly end this government's reign trust me. True but why should they? Remember Mt Kenya voters didn't vote for UMK They voted against Kimundu. ODM is being cleansed ,so no need of rocking the boat. Anything to get the country to the ballot is welcome for them. Who knows they will still be living in 2022? Those are wild dreams, it wont happen. Remember they view Ruto as stubborn na yeye 'hijiskia'. By the way since 2013, UMK has shown reconciliation here and there, Ruto has not. Wait for removal of Deputy Speaker debate tomorrow (disclaimer - i don't support what they are doing). Reconcile for beating someone in an election? How many poles will one receive? Kindiki is ready to go. He has already stated he's not begging anyone. Lakini slice that Meru(Tharaka Nithi) Vote out. Next its the National Assembly, here the target is Linturi (Tigania, Laare, Igembe) That is 3/4 of Meru vote. To quote Moses Kuria, "wakimwaga unga, tunamwaga kitoweo" You know, there's nothing UK can do to Ruto. I stated before when Rollout suggested that UK should fire Ruto...He stuck with him so its either he makes it work or throws the baby with the bath water...at the end of it all he's going home Ruto still has a chance to be President and honestly this whole rift is catapulting him there. Who's got anything to lose? You are getting ahead of yourself boss, we are discussion impeachment whereas all that you have written up here has little to do with it. Our MPs wont impeach the president because of selfishness among the political players in Kenya. I can assure you it wont happen, those are imaginations of a few Ruto followers. Jubilee will also recall all nominated MPs on their side if they participate in such a stunt. No MP is unrecallable. All the cards are on the table and there's no monopoly on who's holding them. In short am just letting you know nothing is an impossibility Anyway Ruto MPs are all talk, with no action. They will just cry foul mostly blaming Raila whereas they are being finywad from within. UMK wont be impeached, those are cheap talk. It wont happen. What happened to @murchr? Prior to 2018 he made the right calls. I didn't agree with some of them but his analysis was right on the money. He seems to have lost his way somewhat! Needs to make a quick U turn. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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kaka2za wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law;
(b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or
(c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we' defeat it chapchap we move on. ODM would gladly end this government's reign trust me. True but why should they? Remember Mt Kenya voters didn't vote for UMK They voted against Kimundu. ODM is being cleansed ,so no need of rocking the boat. Anything to get the country to the ballot is welcome for them. Who knows they will still be living in 2022? Those are wild dreams, it wont happen. Remember they view Ruto as stubborn na yeye 'hijiskia'. By the way since 2013, UMK has shown reconciliation here and there, Ruto has not. Wait for removal of Deputy Speaker debate tomorrow (disclaimer - i don't support what they are doing). Reconcile for beating someone in an election? How many poles will one receive? Kindiki is ready to go. He has already stated he's not begging anyone. Lakini slice that Meru(Tharaka Nithi) Vote out. Next its the National Assembly, here the target is Linturi (Tigania, Laare, Igembe) That is 3/4 of Meru vote. To quote Moses Kuria, "wakimwaga unga, tunamwaga kitoweo" You know, there's nothing UK can do to Ruto. I stated before when Rollout suggested that UK should fire Ruto...He stuck with him so its either he makes it work or throws the baby with the bath water...at the end of it all he's going home Ruto still has a chance to be President and honestly this whole rift is catapulting him there. Who's got anything to lose? You are getting ahead of yourself boss, we are discussion impeachment whereas all that you have written up here has little to do with it. Our MPs wont impeach the president because of selfishness among the political players in Kenya. I can assure you it wont happen, those are imaginations of a few Ruto followers. Jubilee will also recall all nominated MPs on their side if they participate in such a stunt. No MP is unrecallable. All the cards are on the table and there's no monopoly on who's holding them. In short am just letting you know nothing is an impossibility Anyway Ruto MPs are all talk, with no action. They will just cry foul mostly blaming Raila whereas they are being finywad from within. UMK wont be impeached, those are cheap talk. It wont happen. What happened to @murchr? Prior to 2018 he made the right calls. I didn't agree with some of them but his analysis was right on the money. He seems to have lost his way somewhat! Needs to make a quick U turn. Raila RTS Bondo didn't work, after all the energies In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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