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masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:While acknowledging that Correlation doesn't mean Causality - there is a plausible explanation (or at most one of the 'factors') why Black People seem to be dying more from this disease in the higher latitude countries. Vitamin D or at least the deficiency of it. It's a proven fact that Vitamin D really assists in the body fighting respiratory diseases. While black people have lots of biological advantages - synthesis of Vitamin D is not one of them. Why? Melanin! our dark skin (an adaptation to prevent us from dying from skin cancers) prevents us from generating Vitamin D in large quantities when in high latitude countries. Generally - 47% of older people in northern countries are Vitamin D deficient during winter - this number shoots to 84% of older African American men and women. Perhaps this may be that the reason 'seasonal flu' in the US is prevalent in Winter is for the same reason - not everyone is synthesizing Vitamin D (just a theory...). When they compared the cases of people who got infected in a place like Florida vs Northern States like Illinois - Florida has fewer dead people coz of Covid. Florida also has lots more older people and it seems that sitting in the sun may help. Perhaps the lockdowns i.e. keeping people indoors where they cannot synthesize the Vitamin is counterproductive in that way. What needs to be explored is how this observation explains the cases in Australia (it was summer... do they all like staying indoors during the heat of winter?), Ecuador, Brazil are more pronounced in people who are indoors more? Old people and Invalids for example? Young children who play outside in school may fare better because of the mandatory breaks and games times compared to 'hard-working' office people. There are close to 44 countries with 10 active cases or less and most of them are island nations (fish diets and lots of sunshine).
How would this affect us? I reckon most of the people that live by the coasts and eat fish or expose themselves to lots of uninterrupted sunlight would fare better than those who don't. Women in Islamic societies that cover themselves from head to toe would not synthesize the vitamin D. Well - if you work in an office then from the office - you get into a car and never really stay out in the sun - you may not be synthesizing enough Vitamin D regardless of how much sun is out there. we are going into a 'cold' season - most people will be covered kabisa, will stay indoors and my not synthesize enough vitamin D. The West African diet is considered one of the best diets on the planet (rich with fish)... could that explain their low mortality? My advice is while engaging in the well-understood measures - Social Distancing and Avoiding Crowds, Sanitizing Surfaces, Wearing Masks, Staying at home when you can - add a good diet and swallow multi-vitamin tablets. Encourage good diets and vitamin supplements to be taken by your relatives. I have read very carefully. This is nice. You have started thinking outside the box. (The box created by Europeans that you muafrica can't see or think for him/ her self) There is only one thing you need to do. Edit and remove the part in red about black man. That's a useless statement. He is doing fine. @mpobiz, I go where the evidence takes me. On the removal of the text that is offending you - the truth is while everyone is entitled to their own set of opinions - no one is entitled to their own set of facts. This also applied to me by the way  . It's a well-documented fact that black people in the north are dying way more (up to 4 times more than white people). that's a well-documented fact. @murchr, I don't have a straight answer for brazil - I honestly can't figure it out but I have some observations that may be relevant. is's a factor of statistics. While Vitamin D raises the immunity of a person to fight AGAINST the disease it's not a vaccine nor does it confer immunity. The evidence from COVID-19 patients extracted from an observational study from three South Asian hospitals shows us that the prevalence of vitamin D deficiency was much higher among those with severe COVID illness compared with those with mild illness. In fact, there was a 7.94 times higher risk of having severe illness among those who entered with vitamin D deficiency compared with those who had sufficient vitamin D levels. So there is a LOWER risk of having severe illness not an eradication. If a population is reckless and a huge number of people who have no vitamin D deficiency get the infection at once even if the percentage (%) of those who get severe cases is relatively small when thrown against large infected population the outcome is substantial. There also other factors such as people who spend time indoors (office people) who live in areas where vitamin D synthesis would be easy but don't present themselves to it. That's my reasoning! People in Brazil have a bad mindset about the disease - led from the front by the president and possibly millions of them have been infected and the sizable number of deaths are results of the factors above. You are now slipping back inside the box. Who has presented you with the facts? Did you know that the government confirmed that all Kenyans who died in Europe and America's had other health issues. Based on that alone I can say that most Africans adversely affected by the desease it's not because of your vitamin D theory, but because those blacks suffer from other things that suppress their immunity. I presume that you know how to read... I wrote 'Black People'. Some Kenyans happen to be 'Black People'. Some Africans happen to be Black People. Not All Black People are Africans. Some are Americans, UK, Melanesia. The observation was made on people who have Melanin (Black Skins) not the passports they carry. It also stated that south asians (Wahindi wa south india and Sri Lanka) who have Melanin kama sisi were also more likely to die compared to the white people. Na huyu? Covid produces melanin? https://www.google.com/a...-wake-darkened-skin.htmlPolitics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:While acknowledging that Correlation doesn't mean Causality - there is a plausible explanation (or at most one of the 'factors') why Black People seem to be dying more from this disease in the higher latitude countries. Vitamin D or at least the deficiency of it. It's a proven fact that Vitamin D really assists in the body fighting respiratory diseases. While black people have lots of biological advantages - synthesis of Vitamin D is not one of them. Why? Melanin! our dark skin (an adaptation to prevent us from dying from skin cancers) prevents us from generating Vitamin D in large quantities when in high latitude countries. Generally - 47% of older people in northern countries are Vitamin D deficient during winter - this number shoots to 84% of older African American men and women. Perhaps this may be that the reason 'seasonal flu' in the US is prevalent in Winter is for the same reason - not everyone is synthesizing Vitamin D (just a theory...). When they compared the cases of people who got infected in a place like Florida vs Northern States like Illinois - Florida has fewer dead people coz of Covid. Florida also has lots more older people and it seems that sitting in the sun may help. Perhaps the lockdowns i.e. keeping people indoors where they cannot synthesize the Vitamin is counterproductive in that way. What needs to be explored is how this observation explains the cases in Australia (it was summer... do they all like staying indoors during the heat of winter?), Ecuador, Brazil are more pronounced in people who are indoors more? Old people and Invalids for example? Young children who play outside in school may fare better because of the mandatory breaks and games times compared to 'hard-working' office people. There are close to 44 countries with 10 active cases or less and most of them are island nations (fish diets and lots of sunshine).
How would this affect us? I reckon most of the people that live by the coasts and eat fish or expose themselves to lots of uninterrupted sunlight would fare better than those who don't. Women in Islamic societies that cover themselves from head to toe would not synthesize the vitamin D. Well - if you work in an office then from the office - you get into a car and never really stay out in the sun - you may not be synthesizing enough Vitamin D regardless of how much sun is out there. we are going into a 'cold' season - most people will be covered kabisa, will stay indoors and my not synthesize enough vitamin D. The West African diet is considered one of the best diets on the planet (rich with fish)... could that explain their low mortality? My advice is while engaging in the well-understood measures - Social Distancing and Avoiding Crowds, Sanitizing Surfaces, Wearing Masks, Staying at home when you can - add a good diet and swallow multi-vitamin tablets. Encourage good diets and vitamin supplements to be taken by your relatives. I have read very carefully. This is nice. You have started thinking outside the box. (The box created by Europeans that you muafrica can't see or think for him/ her self) There is only one thing you need to do. Edit and remove the part in red about black man. That's a useless statement. He is doing fine. @mpobiz, I go where the evidence takes me. On the removal of the text that is offending you - the truth is while everyone is entitled to their own set of opinions - no one is entitled to their own set of facts. This also applied to me by the way  . It's a well-documented fact that black people in the north are dying way more (up to 4 times more than white people). that's a well-documented fact. @murchr, I don't have a straight answer for brazil - I honestly can't figure it out but I have some observations that may be relevant. is's a factor of statistics. While Vitamin D raises the immunity of a person to fight AGAINST the disease it's not a vaccine nor does it confer immunity. The evidence from COVID-19 patients extracted from an observational study from three South Asian hospitals shows us that the prevalence of vitamin D deficiency was much higher among those with severe COVID illness compared with those with mild illness. In fact, there was a 7.94 times higher risk of having severe illness among those who entered with vitamin D deficiency compared with those who had sufficient vitamin D levels. So there is a LOWER risk of having severe illness not an eradication. If a population is reckless and a huge number of people who have no vitamin D deficiency get the infection at once even if the percentage (%) of those who get severe cases is relatively small when thrown against large infected population the outcome is substantial. There also other factors such as people who spend time indoors (office people) who live in areas where vitamin D synthesis would be easy but don't present themselves to it. That's my reasoning! People in Brazil have a bad mindset about the disease - led from the front by the president and possibly millions of them have been infected and the sizable number of deaths are results of the factors above. You are now slipping back inside the box. Who has presented you with the facts? Did you know that the government confirmed that all Kenyans who died in Europe and America's had other health issues. Based on that alone I can say that most Africans adversely affected by the desease it's not because of your vitamin D theory, but because those blacks suffer from other things that suppress their immunity. I presume that you know how to read... I wrote 'Black People'. Some Kenyans happen to be 'Black People'. Some Africans happen to be Black People. Not All Black People are Africans. Some are Americans, UK, Melanesia. The observation was made on people who have Melanin (Black Skins) not the passports they carry. It also stated that south asians (Wahindi wa south india and Sri Lanka) who have Melanin kama sisi were also more likely to die compared to the white people. Na huyu? Covid produces melanin? https://www.google.com/a...wake-darkened-skin.html
I am beginning to highly doubt @mpobiz reading abilities. the article he shared clearly states that Quote:Their abnormal skin colour is caused by hormonal imbalances after their livers were damaged by the virus Many things - including ink or paint applied on the skin makes it different from its original color. On a lighter note Khaligraph said his became lighter from drinking dasani... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:While acknowledging that Correlation doesn't mean Causality - there is a plausible explanation (or at most one of the 'factors') why Black People seem to be dying more from this disease in the higher latitude countries. Vitamin D or at least the deficiency of it. It's a proven fact that Vitamin D really assists in the body fighting respiratory diseases. While black people have lots of biological advantages - synthesis of Vitamin D is not one of them. Why? Melanin! our dark skin (an adaptation to prevent us from dying from skin cancers) prevents us from generating Vitamin D in large quantities when in high latitude countries. Generally - 47% of older people in northern countries are Vitamin D deficient during winter - this number shoots to 84% of older African American men and women. Perhaps this may be that the reason 'seasonal flu' in the US is prevalent in Winter is for the same reason - not everyone is synthesizing Vitamin D (just a theory...). When they compared the cases of people who got infected in a place like Florida vs Northern States like Illinois - Florida has fewer dead people coz of Covid. Florida also has lots more older people and it seems that sitting in the sun may help. Perhaps the lockdowns i.e. keeping people indoors where they cannot synthesize the Vitamin is counterproductive in that way. What needs to be explored is how this observation explains the cases in Australia (it was summer... do they all like staying indoors during the heat of winter?), Ecuador, Brazil are more pronounced in people who are indoors more? Old people and Invalids for example? Young children who play outside in school may fare better because of the mandatory breaks and games times compared to 'hard-working' office people. There are close to 44 countries with 10 active cases or less and most of them are island nations (fish diets and lots of sunshine).
How would this affect us? I reckon most of the people that live by the coasts and eat fish or expose themselves to lots of uninterrupted sunlight would fare better than those who don't. Women in Islamic societies that cover themselves from head to toe would not synthesize the vitamin D. Well - if you work in an office then from the office - you get into a car and never really stay out in the sun - you may not be synthesizing enough Vitamin D regardless of how much sun is out there. we are going into a 'cold' season - most people will be covered kabisa, will stay indoors and my not synthesize enough vitamin D. The West African diet is considered one of the best diets on the planet (rich with fish)... could that explain their low mortality? My advice is while engaging in the well-understood measures - Social Distancing and Avoiding Crowds, Sanitizing Surfaces, Wearing Masks, Staying at home when you can - add a good diet and swallow multi-vitamin tablets. Encourage good diets and vitamin supplements to be taken by your relatives. I have read very carefully. This is nice. You have started thinking outside the box. (The box created by Europeans that you muafrica can't see or think for him/ her self) There is only one thing you need to do. Edit and remove the part in red about black man. That's a useless statement. He is doing fine. @mpobiz, I go where the evidence takes me. On the removal of the text that is offending you - the truth is while everyone is entitled to their own set of opinions - no one is entitled to their own set of facts. This also applied to me by the way  . It's a well-documented fact that black people in the north are dying way more (up to 4 times more than white people). that's a well-documented fact. @murchr, I don't have a straight answer for brazil - I honestly can't figure it out but I have some observations that may be relevant. is's a factor of statistics. While Vitamin D raises the immunity of a person to fight AGAINST the disease it's not a vaccine nor does it confer immunity. The evidence from COVID-19 patients extracted from an observational study from three South Asian hospitals shows us that the prevalence of vitamin D deficiency was much higher among those with severe COVID illness compared with those with mild illness. In fact, there was a 7.94 times higher risk of having severe illness among those who entered with vitamin D deficiency compared with those who had sufficient vitamin D levels. So there is a LOWER risk of having severe illness not an eradication. If a population is reckless and a huge number of people who have no vitamin D deficiency get the infection at once even if the percentage (%) of those who get severe cases is relatively small when thrown against large infected population the outcome is substantial. There also other factors such as people who spend time indoors (office people) who live in areas where vitamin D synthesis would be easy but don't present themselves to it. That's my reasoning! People in Brazil have a bad mindset about the disease - led from the front by the president and possibly millions of them have been infected and the sizable number of deaths are results of the factors above. You are now slipping back inside the box. Who has presented you with the facts? Did you know that the government confirmed that all Kenyans who died in Europe and America's had other health issues. Based on that alone I can say that most Africans adversely affected by the desease it's not because of your vitamin D theory, but because those blacks suffer from other things that suppress their immunity. I presume that you know how to read... I wrote 'Black People'. Some Kenyans happen to be 'Black People'. Some Africans happen to be Black People. Not All Black People are Africans. Some are Americans, UK, Melanesia. The observation was made on people who have Melanin (Black Skins) not the passports they carry. It also stated that south asians (Wahindi wa south india and Sri Lanka) who have Melanin kama sisi were also more likely to die compared to the white people. Na huyu? Covid produces melanin? https://www.google.com/a...wake-darkened-skin.html
I am beginning to highly doubt @mpobiz reading abilities. the article he shared clearly states that Quote:Their abnormal skin colour is caused by hormonal imbalances after their livers were damaged by the virus Many things - including ink or paint applied on the skin makes it different from its original color. On a lighter note Khaligraph said his became lighter from drinking dasani... Though it's a fact that even in Australia black people exist as original inhabitants . I know I speak for most of us when I say that when you mention a black man we understand you mean a black man of African origin. You have been blowing your trumpet here by claiming the black man is dying. Now you tell us you have also been including wahindi and people from Papua New guinea refering to their black skin. Why didn't you mention it earlier. It could have been easier for everyone here to understand you. Wewe ni bure kabisa Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:While acknowledging that Correlation doesn't mean Causality - there is a plausible explanation (or at most one of the 'factors') why Black People seem to be dying more from this disease in the higher latitude countries. Vitamin D or at least the deficiency of it. It's a proven fact that Vitamin D really assists in the body fighting respiratory diseases. While black people have lots of biological advantages - synthesis of Vitamin D is not one of them. Why? Melanin! our dark skin (an adaptation to prevent us from dying from skin cancers) prevents us from generating Vitamin D in large quantities when in high latitude countries. Generally - 47% of older people in northern countries are Vitamin D deficient during winter - this number shoots to 84% of older African American men and women. Perhaps this may be that the reason 'seasonal flu' in the US is prevalent in Winter is for the same reason - not everyone is synthesizing Vitamin D (just a theory...). When they compared the cases of people who got infected in a place like Florida vs Northern States like Illinois - Florida has fewer dead people coz of Covid. Florida also has lots more older people and it seems that sitting in the sun may help. Perhaps the lockdowns i.e. keeping people indoors where they cannot synthesize the Vitamin is counterproductive in that way. What needs to be explored is how this observation explains the cases in Australia (it was summer... do they all like staying indoors during the heat of winter?), Ecuador, Brazil are more pronounced in people who are indoors more? Old people and Invalids for example? Young children who play outside in school may fare better because of the mandatory breaks and games times compared to 'hard-working' office people. There are close to 44 countries with 10 active cases or less and most of them are island nations (fish diets and lots of sunshine).
How would this affect us? I reckon most of the people that live by the coasts and eat fish or expose themselves to lots of uninterrupted sunlight would fare better than those who don't. Women in Islamic societies that cover themselves from head to toe would not synthesize the vitamin D. Well - if you work in an office then from the office - you get into a car and never really stay out in the sun - you may not be synthesizing enough Vitamin D regardless of how much sun is out there. we are going into a 'cold' season - most people will be covered kabisa, will stay indoors and my not synthesize enough vitamin D. The West African diet is considered one of the best diets on the planet (rich with fish)... could that explain their low mortality? My advice is while engaging in the well-understood measures - Social Distancing and Avoiding Crowds, Sanitizing Surfaces, Wearing Masks, Staying at home when you can - add a good diet and swallow multi-vitamin tablets. Encourage good diets and vitamin supplements to be taken by your relatives. I have read very carefully. This is nice. You have started thinking outside the box. (The box created by Europeans that you muafrica can't see or think for him/ her self) There is only one thing you need to do. Edit and remove the part in red about black man. That's a useless statement. He is doing fine. @mpobiz, I go where the evidence takes me. On the removal of the text that is offending you - the truth is while everyone is entitled to their own set of opinions - no one is entitled to their own set of facts. This also applied to me by the way  . It's a well-documented fact that black people in the north are dying way more (up to 4 times more than white people). that's a well-documented fact. @murchr, I don't have a straight answer for brazil - I honestly can't figure it out but I have some observations that may be relevant. is's a factor of statistics. While Vitamin D raises the immunity of a person to fight AGAINST the disease it's not a vaccine nor does it confer immunity. The evidence from COVID-19 patients extracted from an observational study from three South Asian hospitals shows us that the prevalence of vitamin D deficiency was much higher among those with severe COVID illness compared with those with mild illness. In fact, there was a 7.94 times higher risk of having severe illness among those who entered with vitamin D deficiency compared with those who had sufficient vitamin D levels. So there is a LOWER risk of having severe illness not an eradication. If a population is reckless and a huge number of people who have no vitamin D deficiency get the infection at once even if the percentage (%) of those who get severe cases is relatively small when thrown against large infected population the outcome is substantial. There also other factors such as people who spend time indoors (office people) who live in areas where vitamin D synthesis would be easy but don't present themselves to it. That's my reasoning! People in Brazil have a bad mindset about the disease - led from the front by the president and possibly millions of them have been infected and the sizable number of deaths are results of the factors above. You are now slipping back inside the box. Who has presented you with the facts? Did you know that the government confirmed that all Kenyans who died in Europe and America's had other health issues. Based on that alone I can say that most Africans adversely affected by the desease it's not because of your vitamin D theory, but because those blacks suffer from other things that suppress their immunity. I presume that you know how to read... I wrote 'Black People'. Some Kenyans happen to be 'Black People'. Some Africans happen to be Black People. Not All Black People are Africans. Some are Americans, UK, Melanesia. The observation was made on people who have Melanin (Black Skins) not the passports they carry. It also stated that south asians (Wahindi wa south india and Sri Lanka) who have Melanin kama sisi were also more likely to die compared to the white people. Na huyu? Covid produces melanin? https://www.google.com/a...wake-darkened-skin.html
I am beginning to highly doubt @mpobiz reading abilities. the article he shared clearly states that Quote:Their abnormal skin colour is caused by hormonal imbalances after their livers were damaged by the virus Many things - including ink or paint applied on the skin makes it different from its original color. On a lighter note Khaligraph said his became lighter from drinking dasani... Though it's a fact that even in Australia black people exist as original inhabitants . I know I speak for most of us when I say that when you mention a black man we understand you mean a black man of African origin. You have been blowing your trumpet here by claiming the black man is dying. Now you tell us you have also been including wahindi and people from Papua New guinea refering to their black skin. Why didn't you mention it earlier. It could have been easier for everyone here to understand you. Wewe ni bure kabisa The observation was made on people darker than wazungus. Black people, south Asians. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Tanzania plays hardball All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:While acknowledging that Correlation doesn't mean Causality - there is a plausible explanation (or at most one of the 'factors') why Black People seem to be dying more from this disease in the higher latitude countries. Vitamin D or at least the deficiency of it. It's a proven fact that Vitamin D really assists in the body fighting respiratory diseases. While black people have lots of biological advantages - synthesis of Vitamin D is not one of them. Why? Melanin! our dark skin (an adaptation to prevent us from dying from skin cancers) prevents us from generating Vitamin D in large quantities when in high latitude countries. Generally - 47% of older people in northern countries are Vitamin D deficient during winter - this number shoots to 84% of older African American men and women. Perhaps this may be that the reason 'seasonal flu' in the US is prevalent in Winter is for the same reason - not everyone is synthesizing Vitamin D (just a theory...). When they compared the cases of people who got infected in a place like Florida vs Northern States like Illinois - Florida has fewer dead people coz of Covid. Florida also has lots more older people and it seems that sitting in the sun may help. Perhaps the lockdowns i.e. keeping people indoors where they cannot synthesize the Vitamin is counterproductive in that way. What needs to be explored is how this observation explains the cases in Australia (it was summer... do they all like staying indoors during the heat of winter?), Ecuador, Brazil are more pronounced in people who are indoors more? Old people and Invalids for example? Young children who play outside in school may fare better because of the mandatory breaks and games times compared to 'hard-working' office people. There are close to 44 countries with 10 active cases or less and most of them are island nations (fish diets and lots of sunshine).
How would this affect us? I reckon most of the people that live by the coasts and eat fish or expose themselves to lots of uninterrupted sunlight would fare better than those who don't. Women in Islamic societies that cover themselves from head to toe would not synthesize the vitamin D. Well - if you work in an office then from the office - you get into a car and never really stay out in the sun - you may not be synthesizing enough Vitamin D regardless of how much sun is out there. we are going into a 'cold' season - most people will be covered kabisa, will stay indoors and my not synthesize enough vitamin D. The West African diet is considered one of the best diets on the planet (rich with fish)... could that explain their low mortality? My advice is while engaging in the well-understood measures - Social Distancing and Avoiding Crowds, Sanitizing Surfaces, Wearing Masks, Staying at home when you can - add a good diet and swallow multi-vitamin tablets. Encourage good diets and vitamin supplements to be taken by your relatives. I have read very carefully. This is nice. You have started thinking outside the box. (The box created by Europeans that you muafrica can't see or think for him/ her self) There is only one thing you need to do. Edit and remove the part in red about black man. That's a useless statement. He is doing fine. @mpobiz, I go where the evidence takes me. On the removal of the text that is offending you - the truth is while everyone is entitled to their own set of opinions - no one is entitled to their own set of facts. This also applied to me by the way  . It's a well-documented fact that black people in the north are dying way more (up to 4 times more than white people). that's a well-documented fact. @murchr, I don't have a straight answer for brazil - I honestly can't figure it out but I have some observations that may be relevant. is's a factor of statistics. While Vitamin D raises the immunity of a person to fight AGAINST the disease it's not a vaccine nor does it confer immunity. The evidence from COVID-19 patients extracted from an observational study from three South Asian hospitals shows us that the prevalence of vitamin D deficiency was much higher among those with severe COVID illness compared with those with mild illness. In fact, there was a 7.94 times higher risk of having severe illness among those who entered with vitamin D deficiency compared with those who had sufficient vitamin D levels. So there is a LOWER risk of having severe illness not an eradication. If a population is reckless and a huge number of people who have no vitamin D deficiency get the infection at once even if the percentage (%) of those who get severe cases is relatively small when thrown against large infected population the outcome is substantial. There also other factors such as people who spend time indoors (office people) who live in areas where vitamin D synthesis would be easy but don't present themselves to it. That's my reasoning! People in Brazil have a bad mindset about the disease - led from the front by the president and possibly millions of them have been infected and the sizable number of deaths are results of the factors above. You are now slipping back inside the box. Who has presented you with the facts? Did you know that the government confirmed that all Kenyans who died in Europe and America's had other health issues. Based on that alone I can say that most Africans adversely affected by the desease it's not because of your vitamin D theory, but because those blacks suffer from other things that suppress their immunity. I presume that you know how to read... I wrote 'Black People'. Some Kenyans happen to be 'Black People'. Some Africans happen to be Black People. Not All Black People are Africans. Some are Americans, UK, Melanesia. The observation was made on people who have Melanin (Black Skins) not the passports they carry. It also stated that south asians (Wahindi wa south india and Sri Lanka) who have Melanin kama sisi were also more likely to die compared to the white people. Na huyu? Covid produces melanin? https://www.google.com/a...wake-darkened-skin.html
I am beginning to highly doubt @mpobiz reading abilities. the article he shared clearly states that Quote:Their abnormal skin colour is caused by hormonal imbalances after their livers were damaged by the virus Many things - including ink or paint applied on the skin makes it different from its original color. On a lighter note Khaligraph said his became lighter from drinking dasani... Though it's a fact that even in Australia black people exist as original inhabitants . I know I speak for most of us when I say that when you mention a black man we understand you mean a black man of African origin. You have been blowing your trumpet here by claiming the black man is dying. Now you tell us you have also been including wahindi and people from Papua New guinea refering to their black skin. Why didn't you mention it earlier. It could have been easier for everyone here to understand you. Wewe ni bure kabisa The observation was made on people darker than wazungus. Black people, south Asians. I have been against importation of useless ideas from elsewhere and trying to adopt them here. Now look at you. A black man who is so loud here telling us just because a mzungu called a muhindi black you are quick to back him with with a lot of zeal. Why dear brother? A few moments ago I was praising you on your new found freedom but it seems your mind is trapped. I beg of you to look data that involves true black african people like you. Those people could be residing in any continent. Then apologise for inflaming this forum that has resulted to the likes of alma to fear entering wazua even as a guest because of your mythical stories. Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:While acknowledging that Correlation doesn't mean Causality - there is a plausible explanation (or at most one of the 'factors') why Black People seem to be dying more from this disease in the higher latitude countries. Vitamin D or at least the deficiency of it. It's a proven fact that Vitamin D really assists in the body fighting respiratory diseases. While black people have lots of biological advantages - synthesis of Vitamin D is not one of them. Why? Melanin! our dark skin (an adaptation to prevent us from dying from skin cancers) prevents us from generating Vitamin D in large quantities when in high latitude countries. Generally - 47% of older people in northern countries are Vitamin D deficient during winter - this number shoots to 84% of older African American men and women. Perhaps this may be that the reason 'seasonal flu' in the US is prevalent in Winter is for the same reason - not everyone is synthesizing Vitamin D (just a theory...). When they compared the cases of people who got infected in a place like Florida vs Northern States like Illinois - Florida has fewer dead people coz of Covid. Florida also has lots more older people and it seems that sitting in the sun may help. Perhaps the lockdowns i.e. keeping people indoors where they cannot synthesize the Vitamin is counterproductive in that way. What needs to be explored is how this observation explains the cases in Australia (it was summer... do they all like staying indoors during the heat of winter?), Ecuador, Brazil are more pronounced in people who are indoors more? Old people and Invalids for example? Young children who play outside in school may fare better because of the mandatory breaks and games times compared to 'hard-working' office people. There are close to 44 countries with 10 active cases or less and most of them are island nations (fish diets and lots of sunshine).
How would this affect us? I reckon most of the people that live by the coasts and eat fish or expose themselves to lots of uninterrupted sunlight would fare better than those who don't. Women in Islamic societies that cover themselves from head to toe would not synthesize the vitamin D. Well - if you work in an office then from the office - you get into a car and never really stay out in the sun - you may not be synthesizing enough Vitamin D regardless of how much sun is out there. we are going into a 'cold' season - most people will be covered kabisa, will stay indoors and my not synthesize enough vitamin D. The West African diet is considered one of the best diets on the planet (rich with fish)... could that explain their low mortality? My advice is while engaging in the well-understood measures - Social Distancing and Avoiding Crowds, Sanitizing Surfaces, Wearing Masks, Staying at home when you can - add a good diet and swallow multi-vitamin tablets. Encourage good diets and vitamin supplements to be taken by your relatives. I have read very carefully. This is nice. You have started thinking outside the box. (The box created by Europeans that you muafrica can't see or think for him/ her self) There is only one thing you need to do. Edit and remove the part in red about black man. That's a useless statement. He is doing fine. @mpobiz, I go where the evidence takes me. On the removal of the text that is offending you - the truth is while everyone is entitled to their own set of opinions - no one is entitled to their own set of facts. This also applied to me by the way  . It's a well-documented fact that black people in the north are dying way more (up to 4 times more than white people). that's a well-documented fact. @murchr, I don't have a straight answer for brazil - I honestly can't figure it out but I have some observations that may be relevant. is's a factor of statistics. While Vitamin D raises the immunity of a person to fight AGAINST the disease it's not a vaccine nor does it confer immunity. The evidence from COVID-19 patients extracted from an observational study from three South Asian hospitals shows us that the prevalence of vitamin D deficiency was much higher among those with severe COVID illness compared with those with mild illness. In fact, there was a 7.94 times higher risk of having severe illness among those who entered with vitamin D deficiency compared with those who had sufficient vitamin D levels. So there is a LOWER risk of having severe illness not an eradication. If a population is reckless and a huge number of people who have no vitamin D deficiency get the infection at once even if the percentage (%) of those who get severe cases is relatively small when thrown against large infected population the outcome is substantial. There also other factors such as people who spend time indoors (office people) who live in areas where vitamin D synthesis would be easy but don't present themselves to it. That's my reasoning! People in Brazil have a bad mindset about the disease - led from the front by the president and possibly millions of them have been infected and the sizable number of deaths are results of the factors above. You are now slipping back inside the box. Who has presented you with the facts? Did you know that the government confirmed that all Kenyans who died in Europe and America's had other health issues. Based on that alone I can say that most Africans adversely affected by the desease it's not because of your vitamin D theory, but because those blacks suffer from other things that suppress their immunity. I presume that you know how to read... I wrote 'Black People'. Some Kenyans happen to be 'Black People'. Some Africans happen to be Black People. Not All Black People are Africans. Some are Americans, UK, Melanesia. The observation was made on people who have Melanin (Black Skins) not the passports they carry. It also stated that south asians (Wahindi wa south india and Sri Lanka) who have Melanin kama sisi were also more likely to die compared to the white people. Na huyu? Covid produces melanin? https://www.google.com/a...wake-darkened-skin.html
I am beginning to highly doubt @mpobiz reading abilities. the article he shared clearly states that Quote:Their abnormal skin colour is caused by hormonal imbalances after their livers were damaged by the virus Many things - including ink or paint applied on the skin makes it different from its original color. On a lighter note Khaligraph said his became lighter from drinking dasani... Though it's a fact that even in Australia black people exist as original inhabitants . I know I speak for most of us when I say that when you mention a black man we understand you mean a black man of African origin. You have been blowing your trumpet here by claiming the black man is dying. Now you tell us you have also been including wahindi and people from Papua New guinea refering to their black skin. Why didn't you mention it earlier. It could have been easier for everyone here to understand you. Wewe ni bure kabisa The observation was made on people darker than wazungus. Black people, south Asians. I have been against importation of useless ideas from elsewhere and trying to adopt them here. Now look at you. A black man who is so loud here telling us just because a mzungu called a muhindi black you are quick to back him with with a lot of zeal. Why dear brother? A few moments ago I was praising you on your new found freedom but it seems your mind is trapped. I beg of you to look data that involves true black african people like you. Those people could be residing in any continent. Then apologise for inflaming this forum that has resulted to the likes of alma to fear entering wazua even as a guest because of your mythical stories. Why are we going back and forth and I pointed out Brazil as the country with the SECOND LARGEST NUMBER OF BLACK PEOPLE AFTER NIGERIA (like you and me) All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:While acknowledging that Correlation doesn't mean Causality - there is a plausible explanation (or at most one of the 'factors') why Black People seem to be dying more from this disease in the higher latitude countries. Vitamin D or at least the deficiency of it. It's a proven fact that Vitamin D really assists in the body fighting respiratory diseases. While black people have lots of biological advantages - synthesis of Vitamin D is not one of them. Why? Melanin! our dark skin (an adaptation to prevent us from dying from skin cancers) prevents us from generating Vitamin D in large quantities when in high latitude countries. Generally - 47% of older people in northern countries are Vitamin D deficient during winter - this number shoots to 84% of older African American men and women. Perhaps this may be that the reason 'seasonal flu' in the US is prevalent in Winter is for the same reason - not everyone is synthesizing Vitamin D (just a theory...). When they compared the cases of people who got infected in a place like Florida vs Northern States like Illinois - Florida has fewer dead people coz of Covid. Florida also has lots more older people and it seems that sitting in the sun may help. Perhaps the lockdowns i.e. keeping people indoors where they cannot synthesize the Vitamin is counterproductive in that way. What needs to be explored is how this observation explains the cases in Australia (it was summer... do they all like staying indoors during the heat of winter?), Ecuador, Brazil are more pronounced in people who are indoors more? Old people and Invalids for example? Young children who play outside in school may fare better because of the mandatory breaks and games times compared to 'hard-working' office people. There are close to 44 countries with 10 active cases or less and most of them are island nations (fish diets and lots of sunshine).
How would this affect us? I reckon most of the people that live by the coasts and eat fish or expose themselves to lots of uninterrupted sunlight would fare better than those who don't. Women in Islamic societies that cover themselves from head to toe would not synthesize the vitamin D. Well - if you work in an office then from the office - you get into a car and never really stay out in the sun - you may not be synthesizing enough Vitamin D regardless of how much sun is out there. we are going into a 'cold' season - most people will be covered kabisa, will stay indoors and my not synthesize enough vitamin D. The West African diet is considered one of the best diets on the planet (rich with fish)... could that explain their low mortality? My advice is while engaging in the well-understood measures - Social Distancing and Avoiding Crowds, Sanitizing Surfaces, Wearing Masks, Staying at home when you can - add a good diet and swallow multi-vitamin tablets. Encourage good diets and vitamin supplements to be taken by your relatives. I have read very carefully. This is nice. You have started thinking outside the box. (The box created by Europeans that you muafrica can't see or think for him/ her self) There is only one thing you need to do. Edit and remove the part in red about black man. That's a useless statement. He is doing fine. @mpobiz, I go where the evidence takes me. On the removal of the text that is offending you - the truth is while everyone is entitled to their own set of opinions - no one is entitled to their own set of facts. This also applied to me by the way  . It's a well-documented fact that black people in the north are dying way more (up to 4 times more than white people). that's a well-documented fact. @murchr, I don't have a straight answer for brazil - I honestly can't figure it out but I have some observations that may be relevant. is's a factor of statistics. While Vitamin D raises the immunity of a person to fight AGAINST the disease it's not a vaccine nor does it confer immunity. The evidence from COVID-19 patients extracted from an observational study from three South Asian hospitals shows us that the prevalence of vitamin D deficiency was much higher among those with severe COVID illness compared with those with mild illness. In fact, there was a 7.94 times higher risk of having severe illness among those who entered with vitamin D deficiency compared with those who had sufficient vitamin D levels. So there is a LOWER risk of having severe illness not an eradication. If a population is reckless and a huge number of people who have no vitamin D deficiency get the infection at once even if the percentage (%) of those who get severe cases is relatively small when thrown against large infected population the outcome is substantial. There also other factors such as people who spend time indoors (office people) who live in areas where vitamin D synthesis would be easy but don't present themselves to it. That's my reasoning! People in Brazil have a bad mindset about the disease - led from the front by the president and possibly millions of them have been infected and the sizable number of deaths are results of the factors above. You are now slipping back inside the box. Who has presented you with the facts? Did you know that the government confirmed that all Kenyans who died in Europe and America's had other health issues. Based on that alone I can say that most Africans adversely affected by the desease it's not because of your vitamin D theory, but because those blacks suffer from other things that suppress their immunity. I presume that you know how to read... I wrote 'Black People'. Some Kenyans happen to be 'Black People'. Some Africans happen to be Black People. Not All People are Africans. Some are Americans, UK, Melanesia. The observation was made on people who have Melanin (Black Skins) not the passports they carry. It also stated that south asians (Wahindi wa south india and Sri Lanka) who have Melanin kama sisi were also more likely to die compared to the white people. Na huyu? Covid produces melanin? https://www.google.com/a...wake-darkened-skin.html
I am beginning to highly doubt @mpobiz reading abilities. the article he shared clearly states that Quote:Their abnormal skin colour is caused by hormonal imbalances after their livers were damaged by the virus Many things - including ink or paint applied on the skin makes it different from its original color. On a lighter note Khaligraph said his became lighter from drinking dasani... Though it's a fact that even in Australia black people exist as original inhabitants . I know I speak for most of us when I say that when you mention a black man we understand you mean a black man of African origin. You have been blowing your trumpet here by claiming the black man is dying. Now you tell us you have also been including wahindi and people from Papua New guinea refering to their black skin. Why didn't you mention it earlier. It could have been easier for everyone here to understand you. Wewe ni bure kabisa The observation was made on people darker than wazungus. Black people, south Asians. I have been against importation of useless ideas from elsewhere and trying to adopt them here. Now look at you. A black man who is so loud here telling us just because a mzungu called a muhindi black you are quick to back him with with a lot of zeal. Why dear brother? A few moments ago I was praising you on your new found freedom but it seems your mind is trapped. I beg of you to look data that involves true black african people like you. Those people could be residing in any continent. Then apologise for inflaming this forum that has resulted to the likes of alma to fear entering wazua even as a guest because of your mythical stories. Why are we going back and forth and I pointed out Brazil as the country with the SECOND LARGEST NUMBER OF BLACK PEOPLE AFTER NIGERIA (like you and me) Then be precise because your numbers in Brazil will include the original Indian communities in the Amazon.(check what you wrote in blue font) Furthermore since the Latin people are Generally darker than wazungu then you are including the whole Brazilian population as being black. You are just confused. Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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