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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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sqft wrote:So the US which already has >80,000 corona deaths is trying to advice TZ which has only a few deaths. The ambassador should take his advice to Trump. They might just be heading there "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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sqft wrote:So the US which already has >80,000 corona deaths is trying to advice TZ which has only a few deaths. The ambassador should take his advice to Trump.  So predictableAll Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/21/2009 Posts: 573
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sqft wrote:So the US which already has >80,000 corona deaths is trying to advice TZ which has only a few deaths. The ambassador should take his advice to Trump. can't use such an argument.Yes US may have many casulties but at least we have some data while in TZ we are just guessing and thats quite risky.I hate it when our Gok refers to them as our good neighbours.today 25cases from just a boarder my friend i mentioned it here earlier TZ will sink us down if we dont take care.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2019 Posts: 119
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I wish to float a few leighman questions to wazua disease experts and epidemiologists:
1. What will happen to Kenya covid-19 situation when cold July weather sets in?
2. Is it true that respiratory viruses flourish and transmit better in cold weather? If yes, why are there no single cases reported in the great Mountain of God(Kirinyaga and aberdare region)? Why have Mombasa cases gone up with the onset of rains and cold winds/temperatures characteristic in the months of May-August?
2. Should i declare lockdown in my household until December 2020 especially for the kids?
3. What risk does July bring? I foresee the government lifting restrictions in June setting wananchi up for major infection in July.
4. Where is the data for flu/rsv/pneumonia infections in Kenya by month?
5. Finally, is covid-19 malaria by another name?
No matusi please. Kuuliza sio ujinga
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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Receptor wrote:I wish to float a few leighman questions to wazua disease experts and epidemiologists:
1. What will happen to Kenya covid-19 situation when cold July weather sets in?
2. Is it true that respiratory viruses flourish and transmit better in cold weather? If yes, why are there no single cases reported in the great Mountain of God(Kirinyaga and aberdare region)? Why have Mombasa cases gone up with the onset of rains and cold winds/temperatures characteristic in the months of May-August?
2. Should i declare lockdown in my household until December 2020 especially for the kids?
3. What risk does July bring? I foresee the government lifting restrictions in June setting wananchi up for major infection in July.
4. Where is the data for flu/rsv/pneumonia infections in Kenya by month?
5. Finally, is covid-19 malaria by another name?
No matusi please. Kuuliza sio ujinga
You don't need a scientist to interpret what you are already observing with your own eyes. Visit your nearest level 5 or 4 hospital and observe the mood there. If you see anything rather than the normal. By normal I mean an already overwhelmed medical system where two patients share a bed. That has been the normal for the last 30 years. If you notice anything extraordinary like 4 people sharing a bed and all of them having an uncontrollable coughs then it's time to move your family out of Nairobi and take them somewhere near archers post or baragoi. If you observe the normal just continue with your normal life. You can never be too careful. A friend of mine never smoked , always used a condom, or engaged in reckless behaviour but he died out of a motor veicle accident last year. A fool come out of nowhere and caused the accident. In this case the fool is TZ and people like me who don't give a funk about it. Nothing stopes us from enjoying our daily life or in my case kuchapa kazi. Your July weather here is summer weather in Norway and Scotland. You can't compare . I hope I have been of help. Kujibu pia si ujanja . Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Receptor wrote:I wish to float a few leighman questions to wazua disease experts and epidemiologists:
1. What will happen to Kenya covid-19 situation when cold July weather sets in?
2. Is it true that respiratory viruses flourish and transmit better in cold weather? If yes, why are there no single cases reported in the great Mountain of God(Kirinyaga and aberdare region)? Why have Mombasa cases gone up with the onset of rains and cold winds/temperatures characteristic in the months of May-August?
Yes influenza viruses spread best in cold weather(influenza is italian for "influence of the cold" ).The reason the virus is not spreading in Mt Kenya region is because it has not been introduced there yet. The cold weather is not the carrier/or cause but any humans/mammals carrying the virus will transmit it to others. The Kenyan common flu may pop up in a few weeks but my thinking is it will be less aggressive this time, people seem to observe hygiene better after covid. PS common flu spreads the same way (coming into contact with a sick person's respiratory fluids) just that the stay power of the virus might be different.
Many scientists in the northern hemisphere (UK, US China Korea etc) believe/think that Covid19 will behave the same way as the other flu viruses (H1N1, MERS SARS) and ofcourse the seasonal flu. What I notice them ignoring is that it was summer in Australia yet that 38+ degree weather did not stop Covid from spreading what helped Australia was lockdown measures and social distancing.
2. Should i declare lockdown in my household until December 2020 especially for the kids?
3. What risk does July bring? I foresee the government lifting restrictions in June setting wananchi up for major infection in July.
4. Where is the data for flu/rsv/pneumonia infections in Kenya by month?
5. Finally, is covid-19 malaria by another name? No. Some symptoms may be similar, shivers headache, but with Malaria your respiratory system doesn't shut down (lungs)
No matusi please. Kuuliza sio ujinga
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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murchr wrote:Receptor wrote:I wish to float a few leighman questions to wazua disease experts and epidemiologists:
1. What will happen to Kenya covid-19 situation when cold July weather sets in?
2. Is it true that respiratory viruses flourish and transmit better in cold weather? If yes, why are there no single cases reported in the great Mountain of God(Kirinyaga and aberdare region)? Why have Mombasa cases gone up with the onset of rains and cold winds/temperatures characteristic in the months of May-August?
Yes influenza viruses spread best in cold weather(influenza is italian for "influence of the cold" ).The reason the virus is not spreading in Mt Kenya region is because it has not been introduced there yet. The cold weather is not the carrier/or cause but any humans/mammals carrying the virus will transmit it to others. The Kenyan common flu may pop up in a few weeks but my thinking is it will be less aggressive this time, people seem to observe hygiene better after covid. PS common flu spreads the same way (coming into contact with a sick person's respiratory fluids) just that the stay power of the virus might be different.
Many scientists in the northern hemisphere (UK, US China Korea etc) believe/think that Covid19 will behave the same way as the other flu viruses (H1N1, MERS SARS) and ofcourse the seasonal flu. What I notice them ignoring is that it was summer in Australia yet that 38+ degree weather did not stop Covid from spreading what helped Australia was lockdown measures and social distancing.
2. Should i declare lockdown in my household until December 2020 especially for the kids?
3. What risk does July bring? I foresee the government lifting restrictions in June setting wananchi up for major infection in July.
4. Where is the data for flu/rsv/pneumonia infections in Kenya by month?
5. Finally, is covid-19 malaria by another name? No. Some symptoms may be similar, shivers headache, but with Malaria your respiratory system doesn't shut down (lungs)
Malaria causes excessive destruction of the red blood cell reducing the capacity of blood to deliver oxygen. The resulting damage to body organs from both maybe similar via different mechanisms
No matusi please. Kuuliza sio ujinga
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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thuks wrote:murchr wrote:Receptor wrote:I wish to float a few leighman questions to wazua disease experts and epidemiologists:
1. What will happen to Kenya covid-19 situation when cold July weather sets in?
2. Is it true that respiratory viruses flourish and transmit better in cold weather? If yes, why are there no single cases reported in the great Mountain of God(Kirinyaga and aberdare region)? Why have Mombasa cases gone up with the onset of rains and cold winds/temperatures characteristic in the months of May-August?
Yes influenza viruses spread best in cold weather(influenza is italian for "influence of the cold" ).The reason the virus is not spreading in Mt Kenya region is because it has not been introduced there yet. The cold weather is not the carrier/or cause but any humans/mammals carrying the virus will transmit it to others. The Kenyan common flu may pop up in a few weeks but my thinking is it will be less aggressive this time, people seem to observe hygiene better after covid. PS common flu spreads the same way (coming into contact with a sick person's respiratory fluids) just that the stay power of the virus might be different.
Many scientists in the northern hemisphere (UK, US China Korea etc) believe/think that Covid19 will behave the same way as the other flu viruses (H1N1, MERS SARS) and ofcourse the seasonal flu. What I notice them ignoring is that it was summer in Australia yet that 38+ degree weather did not stop Covid from spreading what helped Australia was lockdown measures and social distancing.
2. Should i declare lockdown in my household until December 2020 especially for the kids?
3. What risk does July bring? I foresee the government lifting restrictions in June setting wananchi up for major infection in July.
4. Where is the data for flu/rsv/pneumonia infections in Kenya by month?
5. Finally, is covid-19 malaria by another name? No. Some symptoms may be similar, shivers headache, but with Malaria your respiratory system doesn't shut down (lungs)
Malaria causes excessive destruction of the red blood cell reducing the capacity of blood to deliver oxygen. The resulting damage to body organs from both maybe similar via different mechanisms
No matusi please. Kuuliza sio ujinga
There is a concept called Game theory - at the base of it is a problem known as the prisoner's dilemma. The problem is whether 2 prisoners caught committing a lesser crime but suspected of a much larger crime will cooperate or betray each other when they are separated and questioned without the other being in the room. if they both keep quiet - they get prosecuted for a small crime. if one betrays the other and the other cooperates - the one who betrays the other gets off scots free and the patsy who was betrayed one gets the book thrown at him. if they all betray each other - they get something less than the case they are patsies and more than when both keep quiet. will they betray or cooperate? When they cooperate - they pay some limited penalty - when they betray each other - they stand to pay very little if their partner in crime cooperates. if both betray each other they suffer more than if they cooperated. When played at a system level (many players) the penalities of each aggregate. the cost of cooperating or betrayal is divided across all the players and it usually presents itself in things like queues, traffic jams (overlapping), payment of taxes. If everyone cooperates - the system works. The system is however resilient and can support a few joyriders as the penality is divided across all the complying persons. if one guy jumps the queue - the processing of the queue is not hampered too much. the more the people that jump the queue - the benefits of the queue diminish and die and no one gets in. It's the same with the fight against Covid. Social distancing and ensuring that measures put in place are followed. If everyone follows the guidelines and no one sneaks out - we can seal this thing here and address it. if all sanitize surfaces and wear masks - we get done really fast. if one person with the disease escapes - we can catch them in Homabay or Bomet. The thing goes to shit when everyone suffers FOMO when they see people disregarding containment measures. So @mpobiz - you are that one guy harvesting the benefits of social distancing without paying the price...nyamazia hapo and don't recruit people or this whole place will go to shit really fast. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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Habari ndiyo hiyo. https://www.businessdail...52230-sqthn0/index.html
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The World Health organisation (WHO) warned on Wednesday that coronavirus may never go away and people will have to learn to live with it.
The warning from the UN health agency come even as some countries begin to ease social distancing restrictions that were enforced to curb the spread of the contagious virus.
“It is important to put this on the table: this virus may become just another endemic virus in our communities, and this virus may never go away,” WHO emergencies chief Michael Ryan said.
“I think there are no promises in this and there are no dates. This disease may settle into a long problem, or it may not be.”
Dr Ryan said that just like HIV which has not gone away, the world must be prepared live with the new virus.
He said that even with a vaccine, it would take a massive effort to eliminate the virus, noting that some illnesses such as measles still exist despite having vaccines.
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,935
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sqft wrote:Habari ndiyo hiyo. https://www.businessdail...52230-sqthn0/index.html
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The World Health organisation (WHO) warned on Wednesday that coronavirus may never go away and people will have to learn to live with it.
The warning from the UN health agency come even as some countries begin to ease social distancing restrictions that were enforced to curb the spread of the contagious virus.
“It is important to put this on the table: this virus may become just another endemic virus in our communities, and this virus may never go away,” WHO emergencies chief Michael Ryan said.
“I think there are no promises in this and there are no dates. This disease may settle into a long problem, or it may not be.”
Dr Ryan said that just like HIV which has not gone away, the world must be prepared live with the new virus.
He said that even with a vaccine, it would take a massive effort to eliminate the virus, noting that some illnesses such as measles still exist despite having vaccines.
The China WHO  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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