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masukuma wrote:kaka2za wrote:mpobiz wrote:T-Bag wrote:What is happening in Russia....numbers jumped to 187,859??? It's called Mass testing. Not target testing. Let them try the same here. The outcome will make Some of you to move to turbi desert. Russia positive rate remains at 4% ..hasn't changed. Kenya rate remains at 2% If Kenya goes for Mass testing there will be more positive cases but positive % could drop to less than 1%I will not repeat what @Masukuma has posted here so often. Uganda is doing more test and lots of them are negative. they reported on 3,809 tests where they got 1 positive case. Yet we think we may have had the disease here longer and spreading and it never spread to Uganda? Uganda have done 50,711 tests and only got 101 positive cases. masukuma, i get your point and as you have raised before earlier in the thread. however, the getting of a positive case out of 3,809 tests (the same as with the kenya's low percentages on the targeted testing) cannot be used to discredit the theory that the disease may have been here longer. they are not doing a serology test to see if people have been infected before the test is for those who are currently positive. meaning if angelica's theory is right those low positives we are getting are only for those who came late to the party.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Latest:
Virus mutating to a more dangerous form
Children contacting the virus are getting symptoms that look like the Kawasaki disease. (cordial vascular collapse) Where the heart is attacked.
This is the stupidity with Herd Immunity - Herd Immunity assumes no long term effects of the current strains and also fails to understand the fact that the longer a virus stays in our midst... the more the likelihood it will mutate. People are always getting flu vaccines every year because it mutates so much and the strains from this year are substantially different from what people experienced last year. the antibodies from last year are not effective against newly spun out strains. The longer Covid stays in humans and is replicating - the more likely that the mutations spin out something that nullifies the effects of Herd Immunity (acquired by sacrificing a substantial number of people). The ONLY WAY IS TO CRUSH THIS THING. The current strains seem to spare the young and strong... who tells you that the newly spun out mutations will spare them? it's a ridiculous proposition. So apparently the assumption that children were not getting it after exposure is wrong. Their immune system has been on an overdrive keeping the viral load low. Now the immunity system is fighting itself attacking the body. Children are getting sick about 6weeks after exposure "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 2,040 Location: GA
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And the debate continues The problem with predicting coronavirus apocalypse in Africa"If the low numbers are only a result of the lack of testing, African countries would be seeing increased rates of hospitalisations and even deaths, which has not been the case so far"
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Latest:
Virus mutating to a more dangerous form
Children contacting the virus are getting symptoms that look like the Kawasaki disease. (cordial vascular collapse) Where the heart is attacked.
This is the stupidity with Herd Immunity - Herd Immunity assumes no long term effects of the current strains and also fails to understand the fact that the longer a virus stays in our midst... the more the likelihood it will mutate. People are always getting flu vaccines every year because it mutates so much and the strains from this year are substantially different from what people experienced last year. the antibodies from last year are not effective against newly spun out strains. The longer Covid stays in humans and is replicating - the more likely that the mutations spin out something that nullifies the effects of Herd Immunity (acquired by sacrificing a substantial number of people). The ONLY WAY IS TO CRUSH THIS THING. The current strains seem to spare the young and strong... who tells you that the newly spun out mutations will spare them? it's a ridiculous proposition. So apparently the assumption that children were not getting it after exposure is wrong. Their immune system has been on an overdrive keeping the viral load low. Now the immunity system is fighting itself attacking the body. Children are getting sick about 6weeks after exposure This was presented by a U.K doctor. I saw it about 2 weeks ago. This were purely observations in the U.K and nowhere else. You have also forgotten to tell us that he said that this only affected 0.005% of infected children in the U.K Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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mpobiz wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Latest:
Virus mutating to a more dangerous form
Children contacting the virus are getting symptoms that look like the Kawasaki disease. (cordial vascular collapse) Where the heart is attacked.
This is the stupidity with Herd Immunity - Herd Immunity assumes no long term effects of the current strains and also fails to understand the fact that the longer a virus stays in our midst... the more the likelihood it will mutate. People are always getting flu vaccines every year because it mutates so much and the strains from this year are substantially different from what people experienced last year. the antibodies from last year are not effective against newly spun out strains. The longer Covid stays in humans and is replicating - the more likely that the mutations spin out something that nullifies the effects of Herd Immunity (acquired by sacrificing a substantial number of people). The ONLY WAY IS TO CRUSH THIS THING. The current strains seem to spare the young and strong... who tells you that the newly spun out mutations will spare them? it's a ridiculous proposition. So apparently the assumption that children were not getting it after exposure is wrong. Their immune system has been on an overdrive keeping the viral load low. Now the immunity system is fighting itself attacking the body. Children are getting sick about 6weeks after exposure This was presented by a U.K doctor. I saw it about 2 weeks ago. This were purely observations in the U.K and nowhere else. You have also forgotten to tell us that he said that this only affected 0.005% of infected children in the U.K You are 2 weeks behind news if you think this has not been observed elsewhere "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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murchr wrote:mpobiz wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Latest:
Virus mutating to a more dangerous form
Children contacting the virus are getting symptoms that look like the Kawasaki disease. (cordial vascular collapse) Where the heart is attacked.
This is the stupidity with Herd Immunity - Herd Immunity assumes no long term effects of the current strains and also fails to understand the fact that the longer a virus stays in our midst... the more the likelihood it will mutate. People are always getting flu vaccines every year because it mutates so much and the strains from this year are substantially different from what people experienced last year. the antibodies from last year are not effective against newly spun out strains. The longer Covid stays in humans and is replicating - the more likely that the mutations spin out something that nullifies the effects of Herd Immunity (acquired by sacrificing a substantial number of people). The ONLY WAY IS TO CRUSH THIS THING. The current strains seem to spare the young and strong... who tells you that the newly spun out mutations will spare them? it's a ridiculous proposition. So apparently the assumption that children were not getting it after exposure is wrong. Their immune system has been on an overdrive keeping the viral load low. Now the immunity system is fighting itself attacking the body. Children are getting sick about 6weeks after exposure This was presented by a U.K doctor. I saw it about 2 weeks ago. This were purely observations in the U.K and nowhere else. You have also forgotten to tell us that he said that this only affected 0.005% of infected children in the U.K You are 2 weeks behind news if you think this has not been observed elsewhere Why are you posting vague statements? You make it seen you are cooking up stuff just to remain relevant here. What do you mean by elsewhere? I told you the other day of you have nothing to tell us just hung your keyboard inside your bathroom the way you hung your panties. Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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mkenyan wrote:
masukuma, i get your point and as you have raised before earlier in the thread. however, the getting of a positive case out of 3,809 tests (the same as with the kenya's low percentages on the targeted testing) cannot be used to discredit the theory that the disease may have been here longer. they are not doing a serology test to see if people have been infected before the test is for those who are currently positive. meaning if angelica's theory is right those low positives we are getting are only for those who came late to the party.
February flu keeps popping up Quote:Health officials in Nakuru County are searching for at least 20 people who got into contact with a 13-year-old Covid-19 patient. The boy from Nyakinyua village in Solai, Subukia Sub-county, was one of the 25 new patients the Health ministry announced on Thursday evening. Nakuru's Health executive Gichuki Kariuki said the patient was taken to Nakuru Level Five Hospital and that the officials had embarked on rapid contact tracing. TUBERCULOSIS The Nation learnt that the boy first sought treatment for tuberculosis at the facility in February. He was released to go home but he was readmitted on April 13 and found to have the coronavirus after a 28-day stay at the hospital. https://www.nation.co.ke...46332-mk12wq/index.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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wukan wrote:mkenyan wrote:
masukuma, i get your point and as you have raised before earlier in the thread. however, the getting of a positive case out of 3,809 tests (the same as with the kenya's low percentages on the targeted testing) cannot be used to discredit the theory that the disease may have been here longer. they are not doing a serology test to see if people have been infected before the test is for those who are currently positive. meaning if angelica's theory is right those low positives we are getting are only for those who came late to the party.
February flu keeps popping up Quote:Health officials in Nakuru County are searching for at least 20 people who got into contact with a 13-year-old Covid-19 patient. The boy from Nyakinyua village in Solai, Subukia Sub-county, was one of the 25 new patients the Health ministry announced on Thursday evening. Nakuru's Health executive Gichuki Kariuki said the patient was taken to Nakuru Level Five Hospital and that the officials had embarked on rapid contact tracing. TUBERCULOSIS The Nation learnt that the boy first sought treatment for tuberculosis at the facility in February. He was released to go home but he was readmitted on April 13 and found to have the coronavirus after a 28-day stay at the hospital. https://www.nation.co.ke...46332-mk12wq/index.html
He may have been sick in February with TB and not necessarily COVID. Since he cannot have had Covid for 90+ days within him only for it to manifest now. The other thing is the Dec and Jan “bad flu” had symptom. Did anyone report Fevers specifically (that’s a huge sign of Covid). Ama ni kukohoa na makamasi (the last one not guaranteed to accompany Covid)?. How comes these symptoms suddenly disappeared and yet the disease was supposed to be spreading ? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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masukuma wrote:wukan wrote:mkenyan wrote:
masukuma, i get your point and as you have raised before earlier in the thread. however, the getting of a positive case out of 3,809 tests (the same as with the kenya's low percentages on the targeted testing) cannot be used to discredit the theory that the disease may have been here longer. they are not doing a serology test to see if people have been infected before the test is for those who are currently positive. meaning if angelica's theory is right those low positives we are getting are only for those who came late to the party.
February flu keeps popping up Quote:Health officials in Nakuru County are searching for at least 20 people who got into contact with a 13-year-old Covid-19 patient. The boy from Nyakinyua village in Solai, Subukia Sub-county, was one of the 25 new patients the Health ministry announced on Thursday evening. Nakuru's Health executive Gichuki Kariuki said the patient was taken to Nakuru Level Five Hospital and that the officials had embarked on rapid contact tracing. TUBERCULOSIS The Nation learnt that the boy first sought treatment for tuberculosis at the facility in February. He was released to go home but he was readmitted on April 13 and found to have the coronavirus after a 28-day stay at the hospital. https://www.nation.co.ke...46332-mk12wq/index.html
He may have been sick in February with TB and not necessarily COVID. Since he cannot have had Covid for 90+ days within him only for it to manifest now. The other thing is the Dec and Jan “bad flu” had symptom. Did anyone report Fevers specifically (that’s a huge sign of Covid). Ama ni kukohoa na makamasi (the last one not guaranteed to accompany Covid)?. How comes these symptoms suddenly disappeared and yet the disease was supposed to be spreading ? Have you considered that he may be reinfected? If nobody knows what is going on in the family or the village. The rate of infection and reinfection is unavoidable. Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,885
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mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:wukan wrote:mkenyan wrote:
masukuma, i get your point and as you have raised before earlier in the thread. however, the getting of a positive case out of 3,809 tests (the same as with the kenya's low percentages on the targeted testing) cannot be used to discredit the theory that the disease may have been here longer. they are not doing a serology test to see if people have been infected before the test is for those who are currently positive. meaning if angelica's theory is right those low positives we are getting are only for those who came late to the party.
February flu keeps popping up Quote:Health officials in Nakuru County are searching for at least 20 people who got into contact with a 13-year-old Covid-19 patient. The boy from Nyakinyua village in Solai, Subukia Sub-county, was one of the 25 new patients the Health ministry announced on Thursday evening. Nakuru's Health executive Gichuki Kariuki said the patient was taken to Nakuru Level Five Hospital and that the officials had embarked on rapid contact tracing. TUBERCULOSIS The Nation learnt that the boy first sought treatment for tuberculosis at the facility in February. He was released to go home but he was readmitted on April 13 and found to have the coronavirus after a 28-day stay at the hospital. https://www.nation.co.ke...46332-mk12wq/index.html
He may have been sick in February with TB and not necessarily COVID. Since he cannot have had Covid for 90+ days within him only for it to manifest now. The other thing is the Dec and Jan “bad flu” had symptom. Did anyone report Fevers specifically (that’s a huge sign of Covid). Ama ni kukohoa na makamasi (the last one not guaranteed to accompany Covid)?. How comes these symptoms suddenly disappeared and yet the disease was supposed to be spreading ? Have you considered that he may be reinfected? If nobody knows what is going on in the family or the village. The rate of infection and reinfection is unavoidable. masukuma's position is most likely correct. the last i read, the cases of people testing positive after recovery were actually false positives.
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