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With benefit of hindsight, it is easy to say that Trump took all the needed action (to some he did a good job if you follow the nutty Hannity). The point is how much time he wasted between the time the Covid warning was provided in his daily briefing, the warning from his staff that this was serious and not a hoax. If you care to, you can see the virus's timeline https://www.nytimes.com/...ronavirus-timeline.html and then look at US's response and see if DJT really did a good job (unless having over 23,000 deaths in less than 2 months and leading the world in infections is a good job) And you have to also ask yourself, why have states been competing with the federal government for PPE and ventilators in the open market. Who have the Feds/FEMA been sending those so called pirated masks to? If you listen to Hannity, I know your answer. I am glad my governor chose to take this seriously in early March and closed schools, universities, and non-essential businesses and for that we have prevented a run on our health infrastructure. And I look forward to my governor ignoring the so called "absolute authority" of DJT and only opening up the states businesses based on data and Public health advice. First time in history we can save the human race by laying in front of the TV and doing nothing. Let's not screw it up
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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I don’t understand why try to convince others that Trump did a “good job” on this. How well a job is done will be computed based on two things 1) How Many Lives are lost 2) The economic toll That’s it! So let’s stop trying to convince others that someone has done a good job when the number of people lost so far is 7 times more than 9/11 and there are over 16 million jobs lost. Mark you this is still accumulating. So I ask you - considering all the warnings made years in advance. The teams setup to respond to this type of scenario was disbanded. I ask again... do you think the virus cares about the politics? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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Maybe Trump should have done NOTHING like Sweden. He should have ignored the 'homa' like the swedes. Then everyone would be happy. Sweden ignored the global corona-panic and now they are safe and the economy is doing great.  Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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sqft wrote:Maybe Trump should have done NOTHING like Sweden. He should have ignored the 'homa' like the swedes. Then everyone would be happy. Sweden ignored the global corona-panic and now they are safe and the economy is doing great.  This is where Magufuli gets his inspiration from?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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masukuma wrote:I don’t understand why try to convince others that Trump did a “good job” on this. How well a job is done will be computed based on two things
1) How Many Lives are lost 2) The economic toll
That’s it! So let’s stop trying to convince others that someone has done a good job when the number of people lost so far is 7 times more than 9/11 and there are over 16 million jobs lost. Mark you this is still accumulating. So I ask you - considering all the warnings made years in advance. The teams setup to respond to this type of scenario was disbanded.
I ask again... do you think the virus cares about the politics? So what else do you want Trump to do? All countries under lockdown, including kenya, are suffering job losses. Also note that the number of corona deaths in the US, a country with a population of >300 million is still quite low, and the numbers are lower than those of people who die due to flu. Also do you want to say that Trump's corona response team comprising among other top experts Dr Fauci, the head of infectious diseases in the US, Prof Dr Redfield the head of the US Centre for disease control, Dr Jerome Adams the black man who is the US Surgeon General, and Dr Alex Azar, the US Minister for Health is incompetent? Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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sqft wrote:masukuma wrote:I don’t understand why try to convince others that Trump did a “good job” on this. How well a job is done will be computed based on two things
1) How Many Lives are lost 2) The economic toll
That’s it! So let’s stop trying to convince others that someone has done a good job when the number of people lost so far is 7 times more than 9/11 and there are over 16 million jobs lost. Mark you this is still accumulating. So I ask you - considering all the warnings made years in advance. The teams setup to respond to this type of scenario was disbanded.
I ask again... do you think the virus cares about the politics? So what else do you want Trump to do? All countries under lockdown, including kenya, are suffering job losses. Also note that the number of corona deaths in the US, a country with a population of >300 million is still quite low, and the numbers are lower than those of people who die due to flu. Also do you want to say that Trump's corona response team comprising among other top experts Dr Fauci, the head of infectious diseases in the US, Prof Dr Redfield the head of the US Centre for disease control, Dr Jerome Adams the black man who is the US Surgeon General, and Dr Alex Azar, the US Minister for Health is incompetent? Nothing he can do now other than be a f*cking president... I have not heard people complain about the Italian prime minister the same way people complain about Trump... WHY? the f*cker is not presidential - he still thinks he knows everything... pushing for dubious cures... being controversial... asking governors to be nice to him. for now - let him be presidential. Let the professionals do their jobs. Let him not make random comments on subject matters that are not his forte... but of course he cannot do this! the reckoning on the deaths and economy will come later All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:sqft wrote:Maybe Trump should have done NOTHING like Sweden. He should have ignored the 'homa' like the swedes. Then everyone would be happy. Sweden ignored the global corona-panic and now they are safe and the economy is doing great.  This is where Magufuli gets his inspiration from? it's not all rosy my friend Quote:Sweden's relatively relaxed approach to controlling the spread of the coronavirus has come under fire in international media and from many locals in the capital Stockholm, where more than half the country's deaths have been recorded. Now, 22 researchers have publicly criticized the strategy and called on politicians to make changes. I checked on the stats and this is it Sweden has 10 million people and 11,445 cases (113.33 per 100,000 persons) and 1,033 deaths (9.03% case fatality) Denmark has 5.6 million people and 6,511 (115.78 per 100,000 persons) and 299 deaths (4.46% case fatality) Norway has 5.3 million people and 6,623 (122.17 per 100,000 persons) and 139 deaths (2.10% case fatality) Finland has 5.5 million people and 3,161 cases (57.05 per 100,000 persons) and 64 deaths (2.02% case fatality) So while the number of people getting infected in Sweden, Denmark and Norway are almost the same - the fatality of the cases in Sweden is more than twice as high as Denmark and more than 4 times as high as Norway and Finland! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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masukuma wrote:sqft wrote:masukuma wrote:I don’t understand why try to convince others that Trump did a “good job” on this. How well a job is done will be computed based on two things
1) How Many Lives are lost 2) The economic toll
That’s it! So let’s stop trying to convince others that someone has done a good job when the number of people lost so far is 7 times more than 9/11 and there are over 16 million jobs lost. Mark you this is still accumulating. So I ask you - considering all the warnings made years in advance. The teams setup to respond to this type of scenario was disbanded.
I ask again... do you think the virus cares about the politics? So what else do you want Trump to do? All countries under lockdown, including kenya, are suffering job losses. Also note that the number of corona deaths in the US, a country with a population of >300 million is still quite low, and the numbers are lower than those of people who die due to flu. Also do you want to say that Trump's corona response team comprising among other top experts Dr Fauci, the head of infectious diseases in the US, Prof Dr Redfield the head of the US Centre for disease control, Dr Jerome Adams the black man who is the US Surgeon General, and Dr Alex Azar, the US Minister for Health is incompetent? Nothing he can do now other than be a f*cking president... I have not heard people complain about the Italian prime minister the same way people complain about Trump... WHY? the f*cker is not presidential - he still thinks he knows everything... pushing for dubious cures... being controversial... asking governors to be nice to him. for now - let him be presidential. Let the professionals do their jobs. Let him not make random comments on subject matters that are not his forte... but of course he cannot do this! the reckoning on the deaths and economy will come later But the New York times has reported that hydroxychloroquine that Trump recommends actually works. If you were on the death bed would you take hydroxychloroquine or would you rather die to spite Trump? FYI China, Hong Kong, France, Japan, UK, Israel etc are using the drug to manage corona. https://www.nytimes.com/...oronavirus-malaria.html
Regarding governors, Trump has also ordered them to start corona testing and stop giving excuses. https://www.dailymail.co...-useless-test-kits.html
Quote:President Trump has now told governors it's their responsibility to get coronavirus testing perfected.
'Governors, get your states testing programs & apparatus perfected,' Trump ordered in a tweet on Sunday evening. 'Be ready, big things are happening. No excuses!
'The Federal Government is there to help. We are testing more than any country in the World. Also, gear up with Face Masks,' he continued.
Trump's latest comments come days after the federal government purchased a fleet of rapid coronavirus testing machines - which are able to deliver results within 15 minutes instead of days - and began distributing them across the country last week. Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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masukuma wrote:Lolest! wrote:sqft wrote:Maybe Trump should have done NOTHING like Sweden. He should have ignored the 'homa' like the swedes. Then everyone would be happy. Sweden ignored the global corona-panic and now they are safe and the economy is doing great.  This is where Magufuli gets his inspiration from? it's not all rosy my friend Quote:Sweden's relatively relaxed approach to controlling the spread of the coronavirus has come under fire in international media and from many locals in the capital Stockholm, where more than half the country's deaths have been recorded. Now, 22 researchers have publicly criticized the strategy and called on politicians to make changes. I checked on the stats and this is it Sweden has 10 million people and 11,445 cases (113.33 per 100,000 persons) and 1,033 deaths (9.03% case fatality) Denmark has 5.6 million people and 6,511 (115.78 per 100,000 persons) and 299 deaths (4.46% case fatality) Norway has 5.3 million people and 6,623 (122.17 per 100,000 persons) and 139 deaths (2.10% case fatality) Finland has 5.5 million people and 3,161 cases (57.05 per 100,000 persons) and 64 deaths (2.02% case fatality) So while the number of people getting infected in Sweden, Denmark and Norway are almost the same - the fatality of the cases in Sweden is more than twice as high as Denmark and more than 4 times as high as Norway and Finland! The swedish president should stop playing Russian roulette with citizens lives and start listening to medical experts just like Trump is listening to Dr Fauci, Dr Jerome, Prof Dr Redfield & co. Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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You can continue this discussion all day but now that we all know that China held and is still holding crucial information on the virus. What we are seeing today was inevitable. Does it mean that the 0 numbers of victims in our hospitals is because of the clever and timely actions of our president?. Trump is the best president America will ever get. I hope he gets four more years. Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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