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wukan
#981 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2020 6:05:35 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
@Tycho and @Prophet Wukan,on 4th April,Australia announced that they had discovered a drug (Ivermetcin) used to clear head lice was working on CV within 48hours.Your comments please.
My optimism is back up there,soon we shall be back to our normal lifes but with some new realisations and adjustments on our lifestyles.

I also have a question,for the 16 guys who turned positive yesturday,were they having any symptoms?14 days were ending today.Is it right to conclude they were going on with their normal lifestyle and would have just healed without any intervention?


Sars, H1N1, swine flue, ebola and CV have all exploded in the last 20 years. There still no effective vaccines for Sars and H1N1. By the way, Japan already has a effective drug against CV yet they have gone on a state of emergency in Tokyo and other areas.

Mans plans the gods laugh


limanika
#982 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2020 6:11:25 PM
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limanika
#983 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2020 6:14:09 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
[quote=limanika]I hope govt has an end game for all this and not just acting blindly.
The target should be for schools to reopen come 1st May.

Since we are at the start of April, an immediate 2-week lock down of all known hot spots and/or tracing and quarantining all who have come into contact with victims makes sense. Then you have 2 more weeks to review before schools reopen.


Lockdown as a strategy ? Experts are talking of between 60-180 days !!!! Scary stuff.

https://www.bloomberg.co...ake?srnd=premium-africa[/quote]

@FRM2011 hope you can see the point. This is the best we can manage at the moment
masukuma
#984 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2020 6:18:59 PM
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wukan wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
@Tycho and @Prophet Wukan,on 4th April,Australia announced that they had discovered a drug (Ivermetcin) used to clear head lice was working on CV within 48hours.Your comments please.
My optimism is back up there,soon we shall be back to our normal lifes but with some new realisations and adjustments on our lifestyles.

I also have a question,for the 16 guys who turned positive yesturday,were they having any symptoms?14 days were ending today.Is it right to conclude they were going on with their normal lifestyle and would have just healed without any intervention?


Sars, H1N1, swine flue, ebola and CV have all exploded in the last 20 years. There still no effective vaccines for Sars and H1N1. By the way, Japan already has a effective drug against CV yet they have gone on a state of emergency in Tokyo and other areas.

Mans plans the gods laugh



Quote:
People may plan all kinds of things, but the LORD's will is going to be done.



And of course, things are not as simple as you think they are:

There are these tiny annoying thnigs called Clinical Studies that seem to comfound people these days...

Quote:

Doctors in Japan are using the same drug in clinical studies on coronavirus patients with mild to moderate symptoms, hoping it will prevent the virus from multiplying in patients.


Quote:
Favipiravir would need government approval for full-scale use on Covid-19 patients, since it was originally intended to treat flu.

A health official told the Mainichi the drug could be approved as early as May. “But if the results of clinical research are delayed, approval could also be delayed.”


All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
tycho
#985 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2020 9:33:38 PM
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@Bigchick, about the discovered effects of Ivermetcin.

As @masukuma said, we wait for clinical trials. If you look at info on Covid and what is required; and what the drug offers, I may not be so optimistic.

As far as I can see, the treatment to work for is either a vaccine or find a way for building immunity slowly through non pharmaceutical means.

All drugs are secondary to these two options.
tycho
#986 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2020 10:01:36 PM
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Most people, nay, governments, are not clear regarding the question to be answered, and the role of the lockdown or movement restrictions with regard to Covid.

For example, Europe is transitioning from lockdowns to herd immunization.

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Italy on Monday reported 636 deaths, roughly 100 more than the previous day, but its infection rate slowed again, with the number of new positive cases rising by under 2,000, or 2.1%. The health minister, Roberto Speranza, told the daily La Repubblica that the coming period was going to be hard.

“There are difficult months ahead,” he said. “Our task is to create the conditions to live with the virus,” at least until a vaccine arrives.
alma1
#987 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2020 10:10:55 PM
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tycho wrote:
Most people, nay, governments, are not clear regarding the question to be answered, and the role of the lockdown or movement restrictions with regard to Covid.

For example, Europe is transitioning from lockdowns to herd immunization.

Quote:
Italy on Monday reported 636 deaths, roughly 100 more than the previous day, but its infection rate slowed again, with the number of new positive cases rising by under 2,000, or 2.1%. The health minister, Roberto Speranza, told the daily La Repubblica that the coming period was going to be hard.

“There are difficult months ahead,” he said. “Our task is to create the conditions to live with the virus,” at least until a vaccine arrives.


This statement has been sprinkled with a lot of salt and pepper. So much so that the food tastes, not true.

Boss. Herd mentality is a methodology that has been dumped. That's not even a question it's a fact.

Let's stick to the Chinese medicine that's curing corona that the Chinese are not using. That's more palatable.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

Lolest!
#988 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2020 10:14:57 PM
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Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
tycho
#989 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2020 10:17:37 PM
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alma1 wrote:
tycho wrote:
Most people, nay, governments, are not clear regarding the question to be answered, and the role of the lockdown or movement restrictions with regard to Covid.

For example, Europe is transitioning from lockdowns to herd immunization.

Quote:
Italy on Monday reported 636 deaths, roughly 100 more than the previous day, but its infection rate slowed again, with the number of new positive cases rising by under 2,000, or 2.1%. The health minister, Roberto Speranza, told the daily La Repubblica that the coming period was going to be hard.

“There are difficult months ahead,” he said. “Our task is to create the conditions to live with the virus,” at least until a vaccine arrives.


This statement has been sprinkled with a lot of salt and pepper. So much so that the food tastes, not true.

Boss. Herd mentality is a methodology that has been dumped. That's not even a question it's a fact.

Let's stick to the Chinese medicine that's curing corona that the Chinese are not using. That's more palatable.


Okay, @alma. Maybe you're right.

Let's watch and see.
alma1
#990 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2020 10:26:37 PM
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tycho wrote:
alma1 wrote:
tycho wrote:
Most people, nay, governments, are not clear regarding the question to be answered, and the role of the lockdown or movement restrictions with regard to Covid.

For example, Europe is transitioning from lockdowns to herd immunization.

Quote:
Italy on Monday reported 636 deaths, roughly 100 more than the previous day, but its infection rate slowed again, with the number of new positive cases rising by under 2,000, or 2.1%. The health minister, Roberto Speranza, told the daily La Repubblica that the coming period was going to be hard.

“There are difficult months ahead,” he said. “Our task is to create the conditions to live with the virus,” at least until a vaccine arrives.


This statement has been sprinkled with a lot of salt and pepper. So much so that the food tastes, not true.

Boss. Herd mentality is a methodology that has been dumped. That's not even a question it's a fact.

Let's stick to the Chinese medicine that's curing corona that the Chinese are not using. That's more palatable.


Okay, @alma. Maybe you're right.

Let's watch and see.


It's not about me being right. Let's stick to the facts.

Otherwise we shall end up like Pastor Owour with all sorts of cures.

Yet, the facts are right there in front of your eyes.

Stop movement. Test. Isolate.

That's the only working way. Every other way is testing and miracle thinking.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

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