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Madness at the NSE
lochaz-index
#2241 Posted : Friday, April 03, 2020 3:53:54 PM
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Posts: 1,127
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
NSE Bulls to reclaim 2000pts on the NSE20 today.
But negative figures on the Non Farm Payroll (NFP) due in an hours time may just spoil the party going forwardd'oh!

NSE20 closed at 2013. Badly needed relief rally. NFP was a 700,000 job loss which beat estimates of 100,000 loss seven fold, but given the jobless claims yesterday it isn't much of a surprise. April will be much worse.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#2242 Posted : Friday, April 03, 2020 4:04:49 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/23/2010
Posts: 2,220
Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
NSE Bulls to reclaim 2000pts on the NSE20 today.
But negative figures on the Non Farm Payroll (NFP) due in an hours time may just spoil the party going forwardd'oh!

NSE20 closed at 2013. Badly needed relief rally. NFP was a 700,000 job loss which beat estimates of 100,000 loss seven fold, but given the jobless claims yesterday it isn't much of a surprise. April will be much worse.


Pray Pray Pray
@SufficientlyP
Balaa
#2243 Posted : Friday, April 03, 2020 8:11:27 PM
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Joined: 7/6/2018
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Location: Kinshasa
https://www.cma.or.ke/in...s-center&Itemid=207

CMA/NSE being pragmatic...or are they indirectly looking out for their own interestssmile
If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense
VituVingiSana
#2244 Posted : Friday, April 03, 2020 10:32:50 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,098
Location: Nairobi
Balaa wrote:
https://www.cma.or.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=621:cma-nse-and-cdsc-press-release-on-response-to-coronavirus-effects-03042020&catid=12:press-center&Itemid=207

CMA/NSE being pragmatic...or are they indirectly looking out for their own interestssmile

It doesn't seem to address GoK firms eg Kenya Re as concerns submission of audited accounts but are parastatal accounts considered "valid" without the AG signing off?
Is there anyone with a different view?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
slick
#2245 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2020 12:07:51 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 6/1/2017
Posts: 288
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
NSE Bulls to reclaim 2000pts on the NSE20 today.
But negative figures on the Non Farm Payroll (NFP) due in an hours time may just spoil the party going forwardd'oh!

NSE20 closed at 2013. Badly needed relief rally. NFP was a 700,000 job loss which beat estimates of 100,000 loss seven fold, but given the jobless claims yesterday it isn't much of a surprise. April will be much worse.


Pray Pray Pray


Yes April will be a catastrophe.In the last 2 weeks over 10 million Americans filed for unemployment claims.Its expected every week the numbers will be higher so April's non farm payroll report maybe in the millions.

What about in Kenya where the mass poor who are and will be out of work in the coming weeks?Since we dont have a similar unemployment claims scheme like Western countries,what will happen to our poor folks?Not that the West is rich enough to pay off unemployed citizens.Their central banks are just printing money for these bailouts.Should Opus Dei do the same?
Contrarian Investor and Trader.Advocate of free markets,limited government interference in the economy and sound money
Ericsson
#2246 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2020 12:42:31 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
slick wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
NSE Bulls to reclaim 2000pts on the NSE20 today.
But negative figures on the Non Farm Payroll (NFP) due in an hours time may just spoil the party going forwardd'oh!

NSE20 closed at 2013. Badly needed relief rally. NFP was a 700,000 job loss which beat estimates of 100,000 loss seven fold, but given the jobless claims yesterday it isn't much of a surprise. April will be much worse.


Pray Pray Pray


Yes April will be a catastrophe.In the last 2 weeks over 10 million Americans filed for unemployment claims.Its expected every week the numbers will be higher so April's non farm payroll report maybe in the millions.

What about in Kenya where the mass poor who are and will be out of work in the coming weeks?Since we dont have a similar unemployment claims scheme like Western countries,what will happen to our poor folks?Not that the West is rich enough to pay off unemployed citizens.Their central banks are just printing money for these bailouts.Should Opus Dei do the same?


We are a third world country.
Can't print money
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
slick
#2247 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2020 12:54:10 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 6/1/2017
Posts: 288
Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
NSE Bulls to reclaim 2000pts on the NSE20 today.
But negative figures on the Non Farm Payroll (NFP) due in an hours time may just spoil the party going forwardd'oh!

NSE20 closed at 2013. Badly needed relief rally. NFP was a 700,000 job loss which beat estimates of 100,000 loss seven fold, but given the jobless claims yesterday it isn't much of a surprise. April will be much worse.


Pray Pray Pray


Yes April will be a catastrophe.In the last 2 weeks over 10 million Americans filed for unemployment claims.Its expected every week the numbers will be higher so April's non farm payroll report maybe in the millions.

What about in Kenya where the mass poor who are and will be out of work in the coming weeks?Since we dont have a similar unemployment claims scheme like Western countries,what will happen to our poor folks?Not that the West is rich enough to pay off unemployed citizens.Their central banks are just printing money for these bailouts.Should Opus Dei do the same?


We are a third world country.
Can't print money


@Ericsson.Exactly.If we start mass printing money like the first world nations we become Zimbabwe.Developed nations can do it and have been doing it since 2008 GFC and so far have been getting away with it due to strong demand of their currencies and people assume there is no alternative to using their currencies especially the US dollar.Inevitably the first world money printing madness will come to bite them also.When that will happen I dont know but it seems we are getting closer
Contrarian Investor and Trader.Advocate of free markets,limited government interference in the economy and sound money
slick
#2248 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2020 1:19:25 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 6/1/2017
Posts: 288
slick wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
NSE Bulls to reclaim 2000pts on the NSE20 today.
But negative figures on the Non Farm Payroll (NFP) due in an hours time may just spoil the party going forwardd'oh!

NSE20 closed at 2013. Badly needed relief rally. NFP was a 700,000 job loss which beat estimates of 100,000 loss seven fold, but given the jobless claims yesterday it isn't much of a surprise. April will be much worse.


Pray Pray Pray


Yes April will be a catastrophe.In the last 2 weeks over 10 million Americans filed for unemployment claims.Its expected every week the numbers will be higher so April's non farm payroll report maybe in the millions.

What about in Kenya where the mass poor who are and will be out of work in the coming weeks?Since we dont have a similar unemployment claims scheme like Western countries,what will happen to our poor folks?Not that the West is rich enough to pay off unemployed citizens.Their central banks are just printing money for these bailouts.Should Opus Dei do the same?


We are a third world country.
Can't print money


@Ericsson.Exactly.If we start mass printing money like the first world nations we become Zimbabwe.Developed nations can do it and have been doing it since 2008 GFC and so far have been getting away with it due to strong demand of their currencies and people assume there is no alternative to using their currencies especially the US dollar.Inevitably the first world money printing madness will come to bite them also.When that will happen I dont know but it seems we are getting closer


Though I think its almost obvious that Kenya will also be as afflicted with Covid-19 as Italy and the USA.Its inevitable we shall get there in the next few weeks and we are much less capable than developed nations to deal with this.When this catastrophe hits,Opus Dei will have no choice but to mass print KES to bailout GoK and corporations.What that does to the Kenya Shilling could be dire
Contrarian Investor and Trader.Advocate of free markets,limited government interference in the economy and sound money
Ericsson
#2249 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2020 6:24:03 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
slick wrote:
slick wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
NSE Bulls to reclaim 2000pts on the NSE20 today.
But negative figures on the Non Farm Payroll (NFP) due in an hours time may just spoil the party going forwardd'oh!

NSE20 closed at 2013. Badly needed relief rally. NFP was a 700,000 job loss which beat estimates of 100,000 loss seven fold, but given the jobless claims yesterday it isn't much of a surprise. April will be much worse.


Pray Pray Pray


Yes April will be a catastrophe.In the last 2 weeks over 10 million Americans filed for unemployment claims.Its expected every week the numbers will be higher so April's non farm payroll report maybe in the millions.

What about in Kenya where the mass poor who are and will be out of work in the coming weeks?Since we dont have a similar unemployment claims scheme like Western countries,what will happen to our poor folks?Not that the West is rich enough to pay off unemployed citizens.Their central banks are just printing money for these bailouts.Should Opus Dei do the same?


We are a third world country.
Can't print money


@Ericsson.Exactly.If we start mass printing money like the first world nations we become Zimbabwe.Developed nations can do it and have been doing it since 2008 GFC and so far have been getting away with it due to strong demand of their currencies and people assume there is no alternative to using their currencies especially the US dollar.Inevitably the first world money printing madness will come to bite them also.When that will happen I dont know but it seems we are getting closer


Though I think its almost obvious that Kenya will also be as afflicted with Covid-19 as Italy and the USA.Its inevitable we shall get there in the next few weeks and we are much less capable than developed nations to deal with this.When this catastrophe hits,Opus Dei will have no choice but to mass print KES to bailout GoK and corporations.What that does to the Kenya Shilling could be dire


Opus Dei and his team are begging IMF and World Bank for $$,€€ and Yen.
The problem is we are a majorly importing nation so we need more hard currencies.
Scales can be tilted if we manufacture critical items needed to fight Corona like masks,PPEs and they are in short supply in the western countries
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#2250 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2020 6:27:04 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
slick wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
NSE Bulls to reclaim 2000pts on the NSE20 today.
But negative figures on the Non Farm Payroll (NFP) due in an hours time may just spoil the party going forwardd'oh!

NSE20 closed at 2013. Badly needed relief rally. NFP was a 700,000 job loss which beat estimates of 100,000 loss seven fold, but given the jobless claims yesterday it isn't much of a surprise. April will be much worse.


Pray Pray Pray


Yes April will be a catastrophe.In the last 2 weeks over 10 million Americans filed for unemployment claims.Its expected every week the numbers will be higher so April's non farm payroll report maybe in the millions.

What about in Kenya where the mass poor who are and will be out of work in the coming weeks?Since we dont have a similar unemployment claims scheme like Western countries,what will happen to our poor folks?Not that the West is rich enough to pay off unemployed citizens.Their central banks are just printing money for these bailouts.Should Opus Dei do the same?


We are a third world country.
Can't print money


@Ericsson.Exactly.If we start mass printing money like the first world nations we become Zimbabwe.Developed nations can do it and have been doing it since 2008 GFC and so far have been getting away with it due to strong demand of their currencies and people assume there is no alternative to using their currencies especially the US dollar.Inevitably the first world money printing madness will come to bite them also.When that will happen I dont know but it seems we are getting closer


That is why we have G8,
The currency of IMF and World Bank is the SDR.
SDR is a basket of currencies which have different weightings.
If the dollar goes down its replacement will be one of the currencies in the SDR.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#2251 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2020 8:35:19 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,098
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
slick wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
NSE Bulls to reclaim 2000pts on the NSE20 today.
But negative figures on the Non Farm Payroll (NFP) due in an hours time may just spoil the party going forwardd'oh!

NSE20 closed at 2013. Badly needed relief rally. NFP was a 700,000 job loss which beat estimates of 100,000 loss seven fold, but given the jobless claims yesterday it isn't much of a surprise. April will be much worse.


Pray Pray Pray


Yes April will be a catastrophe.In the last 2 weeks over 10 million Americans filed for unemployment claims.Its expected every week the numbers will be higher so April's non farm payroll report maybe in the millions.

What about in Kenya where the mass poor who are and will be out of work in the coming weeks?Since we dont have a similar unemployment claims scheme like Western countries,what will happen to our poor folks?Not that the West is rich enough to pay off unemployed citizens.Their central banks are just printing money for these bailouts.Should Opus Dei do the same?


We are a third world country.
Can't print money


@Ericsson.Exactly.If we start mass printing money like the first world nations we become Zimbabwe.Developed nations can do it and have been doing it since 2008 GFC and so far have been getting away with it due to strong demand of their currencies and people assume there is no alternative to using their currencies especially the US dollar.Inevitably the first world money printing madness will come to bite them also.When that will happen I dont know but it seems we are getting closer


Though I think its almost obvious that Kenya will also be as afflicted with Covid-19 as Italy and the USA.Its inevitable we shall get there in the next few weeks and we are much less capable than developed nations to deal with this.When this catastrophe hits,Opus Dei will have no choice but to mass print KES to bailout GoK and corporations.What that does to the Kenya Shilling could be dire


Opus Dei and his team are begging IMF and World Bank for $$,€€ and Yen.
The problem is we are a majorly importing nation so we need more hard currencies.
Scales can be tilted if we manufacture critical items needed to fight Corona like masks,PPEs and they are in short supply in the western countries

It is time for GoK to live within its means. Kenyans need to learn to live without imported apples, grapes, Mercedes cars and 8K TVs.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#2252 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 9:44:42 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,503
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
slick wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
NSE Bulls to reclaim 2000pts on the NSE20 today.
But negative figures on the Non Farm Payroll (NFP) due in an hours time may just spoil the party going forwardd'oh!

NSE20 closed at 2013. Badly needed relief rally. NFP was a 700,000 job loss which beat estimates of 100,000 loss seven fold, but given the jobless claims yesterday it isn't much of a surprise. April will be much worse.


Pray Pray Pray


Yes April will be a catastrophe.In the last 2 weeks over 10 million Americans filed for unemployment claims.Its expected every week the numbers will be higher so April's non farm payroll report maybe in the millions.

What about in Kenya where the mass poor who are and will be out of work in the coming weeks?Since we dont have a similar unemployment claims scheme like Western countries,what will happen to our poor folks?Not that the West is rich enough to pay off unemployed citizens.Their central banks are just printing money for these bailouts.Should Opus Dei do the same?


We are a third world country.
Can't print money


@Ericsson.Exactly.If we start mass printing money like the first world nations we become Zimbabwe.Developed nations can do it and have been doing it since 2008 GFC and so far have been getting away with it due to strong demand of their currencies and people assume there is no alternative to using their currencies especially the US dollar.Inevitably the first world money printing madness will come to bite them also.When that will happen I dont know but it seems we are getting closer


Though I think its almost obvious that Kenya will also be as afflicted with Covid-19 as Italy and the USA.Its inevitable we shall get there in the next few weeks and we are much less capable than developed nations to deal with this.When this catastrophe hits,Opus Dei will have no choice but to mass print KES to bailout GoK and corporations.What that does to the Kenya Shilling could be dire


Opus Dei and his team are begging IMF and World Bank for $$,€€ and Yen.
The problem is we are a majorly importing nation so we need more hard currencies.
Scales can be tilted if we manufacture critical items needed to fight Corona like masks,PPEs and they are in short supply in the western countries

It is time for GoK to live within its means. Kenyans need to learn to live without imported apples, grapes, Mercedes cars and 8K TVs.

Mercedes lazima

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
jgithige
#2253 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 10:46:34 AM
Rank: Member


Joined: 7/10/2014
Posts: 145
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
slick wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
NSE Bulls to reclaim 2000pts on the NSE20 today.
But negative figures on the Non Farm Payroll (NFP) due in an hours time may just spoil the party going forwardd'oh!

NSE20 closed at 2013. Badly needed relief rally. NFP was a 700,000 job loss which beat estimates of 100,000 loss seven fold, but given the jobless claims yesterday it isn't much of a surprise. April will be much worse.


Pray Pray Pray


Yes April will be a catastrophe.In the last 2 weeks over 10 million Americans filed for unemployment claims.Its expected every week the numbers will be higher so April's non farm payroll report maybe in the millions.

What about in Kenya where the mass poor who are and will be out of work in the coming weeks?Since we dont have a similar unemployment claims scheme like Western countries,what will happen to our poor folks?Not that the West is rich enough to pay off unemployed citizens.Their central banks are just printing money for these bailouts.Should Opus Dei do the same?


We are a third world country.
Can't print money


@Ericsson.Exactly.If we start mass printing money like the first world nations we become Zimbabwe.Developed nations can do it and have been doing it since 2008 GFC and so far have been getting away with it due to strong demand of their currencies and people assume there is no alternative to using their currencies especially the US dollar.Inevitably the first world money printing madness will come to bite them also.When that will happen I dont know but it seems we are getting closer


Though I think its almost obvious that Kenya will also be as afflicted with Covid-19 as Italy and the USA.Its inevitable we shall get there in the next few weeks and we are much less capable than developed nations to deal with this.When this catastrophe hits,Opus Dei will have no choice but to mass print KES to bailout GoK and corporations.What that does to the Kenya Shilling could be dire


Opus Dei and his team are begging IMF and World Bank for $$,€€ and Yen.
The problem is we are a majorly importing nation so we need more hard currencies.
Scales can be tilted if we manufacture critical items needed to fight Corona like masks,PPEs and they are in short supply in the western countries

It is time for GoK to live within its means. Kenyans need to learn to live without imported apples, grapes, Mercedes cars and 8K TVs.

Mercedes lazima

Forex regulation could be the next move if we don t tame our appetite for imports and price hike on commodities. Currently a tray of eggs is trading at ksh 450 since no eggs are coming from UG.

"Blowing out someone else candle won't make yours shine brighter"-Anonymous
Ericsson
#2254 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 4:08:18 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
jgithige wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
slick wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
NSE Bulls to reclaim 2000pts on the NSE20 today.
But negative figures on the Non Farm Payroll (NFP) due in an hours time may just spoil the party going forwardd'oh!

NSE20 closed at 2013. Badly needed relief rally. NFP was a 700,000 job loss which beat estimates of 100,000 loss seven fold, but given the jobless claims yesterday it isn't much of a surprise. April will be much worse.


Pray Pray Pray


Yes April will be a catastrophe.In the last 2 weeks over 10 million Americans filed for unemployment claims.Its expected every week the numbers will be higher so April's non farm payroll report maybe in the millions.

What about in Kenya where the mass poor who are and will be out of work in the coming weeks?Since we dont have a similar unemployment claims scheme like Western countries,what will happen to our poor folks?Not that the West is rich enough to pay off unemployed citizens.Their central banks are just printing money for these bailouts.Should Opus Dei do the same?


We are a third world country.
Can't print money


@Ericsson.Exactly.If we start mass printing money like the first world nations we become Zimbabwe.Developed nations can do it and have been doing it since 2008 GFC and so far have been getting away with it due to strong demand of their currencies and people assume there is no alternative to using their currencies especially the US dollar.Inevitably the first world money printing madness will come to bite them also.When that will happen I dont know but it seems we are getting closer


Though I think its almost obvious that Kenya will also be as afflicted with Covid-19 as Italy and the USA.Its inevitable we shall get there in the next few weeks and we are much less capable than developed nations to deal with this.When this catastrophe hits,Opus Dei will have no choice but to mass print KES to bailout GoK and corporations.What that does to the Kenya Shilling could be dire


Opus Dei and his team are begging IMF and World Bank for $$,€€ and Yen.
The problem is we are a majorly importing nation so we need more hard currencies.
Scales can be tilted if we manufacture critical items needed to fight Corona like masks,PPEs and they are in short supply in the western countries

It is time for GoK to live within its means. Kenyans need to learn to live without imported apples, grapes, Mercedes cars and 8K TVs.

Mercedes lazima

Forex regulation could be the next move if we don t tame our appetite for imports and price hike on commodities. Currently a tray of eggs is trading at ksh 450 since no eggs are coming from UG.


Forex regulation will be tough.
Government gets alot of income through taxes
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
slick
#2255 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 6:20:44 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 6/1/2017
Posts: 288
Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
slick wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
NSE Bulls to reclaim 2000pts on the NSE20 today.
But negative figures on the Non Farm Payroll (NFP) due in an hours time may just spoil the party going forwardd'oh!

NSE20 closed at 2013. Badly needed relief rally. NFP was a 700,000 job loss which beat estimates of 100,000 loss seven fold, but given the jobless claims yesterday it isn't much of a surprise. April will be much worse.


Pray Pray Pray


Yes April will be a catastrophe.In the last 2 weeks over 10 million Americans filed for unemployment claims.Its expected every week the numbers will be higher so April's non farm payroll report maybe in the millions.

What about in Kenya where the mass poor who are and will be out of work in the coming weeks?Since we dont have a similar unemployment claims scheme like Western countries,what will happen to our poor folks?Not that the West is rich enough to pay off unemployed citizens.Their central banks are just printing money for these bailouts.Should Opus Dei do the same?


We are a third world country.
Can't print money


@Ericsson.Exactly.If we start mass printing money like the first world nations we become Zimbabwe.Developed nations can do it and have been doing it since 2008 GFC and so far have been getting away with it due to strong demand of their currencies and people assume there is no alternative to using their currencies especially the US dollar.Inevitably the first world money printing madness will come to bite them also.When that will happen I dont know but it seems we are getting closer


Though I think its almost obvious that Kenya will also be as afflicted with Covid-19 as Italy and the USA.Its inevitable we shall get there in the next few weeks and we are much less capable than developed nations to deal with this.When this catastrophe hits,Opus Dei will have no choice but to mass print KES to bailout GoK and corporations.What that does to the Kenya Shilling could be dire


Opus Dei and his team are begging IMF and World Bank for $$,€€ and Yen.
The problem is we are a majorly importing nation so we need more hard currencies.
Scales can be tilted if we manufacture critical items needed to fight Corona like masks,PPEs and they are in short supply in the western countries


Opus Dei should instead beg Jerome Powell of the Fed to setup a currency swap line in the same manner as other major central banks who are allies with the US have done.I highlighted these swap lines in an earlier post.Essentially other central banks in Japan,Europe,Canada,Mexico etc are printing their own currency and exchanging it with Fed's newly printed USD.So CBK just creates new KES and exchanges it with US dollars.Unfortunately we are too small a player to join that swap club so we have to beg for loans.Short term swap lines are lessening the bleeding but all this money printing will have disastrous consequences later.Let Kenya remain just the way we are not joining the money printing shenanigans club and suffer short term pain for long term gain
Contrarian Investor and Trader.Advocate of free markets,limited government interference in the economy and sound money
babashuge
#2256 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 7:08:36 PM
Rank: New-farer


Joined: 1/4/2019
Posts: 69
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
slick wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
NSE Bulls to reclaim 2000pts on the NSE20 today.
But negative figures on the Non Farm Payroll (NFP) due in an hours time may just spoil the party going forwardd'oh!

NSE20 closed at 2013. Badly needed relief rally. NFP was a 700,000 job loss which beat estimates of 100,000 loss seven fold, but given the jobless claims yesterday it isn't much of a surprise. April will be much worse.


Pray Pray Pray


Yes April will be a catastrophe.In the last 2 weeks over 10 million Americans filed for unemployment claims.Its expected every week the numbers will be higher so April's non farm payroll report maybe in the millions.

What about in Kenya where the mass poor who are and will be out of work in the coming weeks?Since we dont have a similar unemployment claims scheme like Western countries,what will happen to our poor folks?Not that the West is rich enough to pay off unemployed citizens.Their central banks are just printing money for these bailouts.Should Opus Dei do the same?


We are a third world country.
Can't print money


@Ericsson.Exactly.If we start mass printing money like the first world nations we become Zimbabwe.Developed nations can do it and have been doing it since 2008 GFC and so far have been getting away with it due to strong demand of their currencies and people assume there is no alternative to using their currencies especially the US dollar.Inevitably the first world money printing madness will come to bite them also.When that will happen I dont know but it seems we are getting closer


Though I think its almost obvious that Kenya will also be as afflicted with Covid-19 as Italy and the USA.Its inevitable we shall get there in the next few weeks and we are much less capable than developed nations to deal with this.When this catastrophe hits,Opus Dei will have no choice but to mass print KES to bailout GoK and corporations.What that does to the Kenya Shilling could be dire


Opus Dei and his team are begging IMF and World Bank for $$,€€ and Yen.
The problem is we are a majorly importing nation so we need more hard currencies.
Scales can be tilted if we manufacture critical items needed to fight Corona like masks,PPEs and they are in short supply in the western countries

It is time for GoK to live within its means. Kenyans need to learn to live without imported apples, grapes, Mercedes cars and 8K TVs.

Mercedes lazima



Mercedes Lazima!
But sio ya kukopa
Ericsson
#2257 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2020 7:26:30 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
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Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
slick wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
NSE Bulls to reclaim 2000pts on the NSE20 today.
But negative figures on the Non Farm Payroll (NFP) due in an hours time may just spoil the party going forwardd'oh!

NSE20 closed at 2013. Badly needed relief rally. NFP was a 700,000 job loss which beat estimates of 100,000 loss seven fold, but given the jobless claims yesterday it isn't much of a surprise. April will be much worse.


Pray Pray Pray


Yes April will be a catastrophe.In the last 2 weeks over 10 million Americans filed for unemployment claims.Its expected every week the numbers will be higher so April's non farm payroll report maybe in the millions.

What about in Kenya where the mass poor who are and will be out of work in the coming weeks?Since we dont have a similar unemployment claims scheme like Western countries,what will happen to our poor folks?Not that the West is rich enough to pay off unemployed citizens.Their central banks are just printing money for these bailouts.Should Opus Dei do the same?


We are a third world country.
Can't print money


@Ericsson.Exactly.If we start mass printing money like the first world nations we become Zimbabwe.Developed nations can do it and have been doing it since 2008 GFC and so far have been getting away with it due to strong demand of their currencies and people assume there is no alternative to using their currencies especially the US dollar.Inevitably the first world money printing madness will come to bite them also.When that will happen I dont know but it seems we are getting closer


Though I think its almost obvious that Kenya will also be as afflicted with Covid-19 as Italy and the USA.Its inevitable we shall get there in the next few weeks and we are much less capable than developed nations to deal with this.When this catastrophe hits,Opus Dei will have no choice but to mass print KES to bailout GoK and corporations.What that does to the Kenya Shilling could be dire


Opus Dei and his team are begging IMF and World Bank for $$,€€ and Yen.
The problem is we are a majorly importing nation so we need more hard currencies.
Scales can be tilted if we manufacture critical items needed to fight Corona like masks,PPEs and they are in short supply in the western countries


Opus Dei should instead beg Jerome Powell of the Fed to setup a currency swap line in the same manner as other major central banks who are allies with the US have done.I highlighted these swap lines in an earlier post.Essentially other central banks in Japan,Europe,Canada,Mexico etc are printing their own currency and exchanging it with Fed's newly printed USD.So CBK just creates new KES and exchanges it with US dollars.Unfortunately we are too small a player to join that swap club so we have to beg for loans.Short term swap lines are lessening the bleeding but all this money printing will have disastrous consequences later.Let Kenya remain just the way we are not joining the money printing shenanigans club and suffer short term pain for long term gain

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#2258 Posted : Monday, May 04, 2020 8:18:43 AM
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April offered sideways action on the NSE20 as most world indices staged recoveries and cut down the bear damage inflicted in March. Very weak posture for the NSE doesn't bode well as most markets resume the downtrend in May.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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#2259 Posted : Monday, May 04, 2020 10:01:46 AM
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lochaz-index wrote:
April offered sideways action on the NSE20 as most world indices staged recoveries and cut down the bear damage inflicted in March. Very weak posture for the NSE doesn't bode well as most markets resume the downtrend in May.


Pump and dump.
When the USA economic data is released on Friday,markets will tumble further.
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#2260 Posted : Wednesday, May 06, 2020 9:40:43 AM
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Madness at the moment.
KCB and Equity printing 40+ and doing +20% gains in a week as the economy limpsd'oh!
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