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Safaricom 2019/2020
Angelica _ann
#271 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2020 5:49:57 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,937
Monk wrote:
watesh wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
watesh wrote:
Safcom on a bull run already 28.5 now....back to pre-covid 19 prices

what's your take on this stubborn animal?

I think it's the whole sentiment in the market that their whole business model won't be affected negatively by the pandemic. Most analysts think they may gain from data revenue and mpesa revenue....personally, I took my profits at 27. The more this pandemic bites the less the spending in the market and less money circulating. Mpesa needs money to circulate to make money so after a while, it will start to bite. For me, at 28 - 30 it's fully priced for the current conditions... Long time for sure it has a lot of potential assuming no disruption in the industry


True, they'll be less money circulating for perhaps a year, but I think this pandemic will irreversibly change the behavior of many users like @aemathenge, after getting them accustomed to Lipa-na-Mpesa and e-commerce during his period. That will be a boon for Safaricom in the long term, as the economy recovers.


Bought electricity using 888880 today, for the amount i purchased am normally charged 34 bob, today i have been charged 85 bob Sad Ukora wizi!!!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
winmak
#272 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2020 8:05:27 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 12/1/2007
Posts: 539
Location: Nakuru
Angelica _ann wrote:
Monk wrote:
watesh wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
watesh wrote:
Safcom on a bull run already 28.5 now....back to pre-covid 19 prices

what's your take on this stubborn animal?

I think it's the whole sentiment in the market that their whole business model won't be affected negatively by the pandemic. Most analysts think they may gain from data revenue and mpesa revenue....personally, I took my profits at 27. The more this pandemic bites the less the spending in the market and less money circulating. Mpesa needs money to circulate to make money so after a while, it will start to bite. For me, at 28 - 30 it's fully priced for the current conditions... Long time for sure it has a lot of potential assuming no disruption in the industry


True, they'll be less money circulating for perhaps a year, but I think this pandemic will irreversibly change the behavior of many users like @aemathenge, after getting them accustomed to Lipa-na-Mpesa and e-commerce during his period. That will be a boon for Safaricom in the long term, as the economy recovers.


Bought electricity using 888880 today, for the amount i purchased am normally charged 34 bob, today i have been charged 85 bob Sad Ukora wizi!!!


me too !!!!
For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
NewMoney
#273 Posted : Friday, April 03, 2020 8:54:35 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 3/1/2019
Posts: 170
Location: Nairobi
Monk wrote:
watesh wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
watesh wrote:
Safcom on a bull run already 28.5 now....back to pre-covid 19 prices

what's your take on this stubborn animal?

I think it's the whole sentiment in the market that their whole business model won't be affected negatively by the pandemic. Most analysts think they may gain from data revenue and mpesa revenue....personally, I took my profits at 27. The more this pandemic bites the less the spending in the market and less money circulating. Mpesa needs money to circulate to make money so after a while, it will start to bite. For me, at 28 - 30 it's fully priced for the current conditions... Long time for sure it has a lot of potential assuming no disruption in the industry


True, they'll be less money circulating for perhaps a year, but I think this pandemic will irreversibly change the behavior of many users like @aemathenge, after getting them accustomed to Lipa-na-Mpesa and e-commerce during his period. That will be a boon for Safaricom in the long term, as the economy recovers.



I will keep buying this counter. Post Covid-19, safaricom will easily cross the 50/= mark. Life will change as we know it, things will be more "digital" than ever and safaricom is the most important "digital" player at NSE
xtina
#274 Posted : Friday, April 03, 2020 9:32:35 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 6/26/2008
Posts: 401
Sad Sad Sad
Ethiopia closes door on M-Pesa
Friday, April 3, 2020 8:35


Ethiopia has shut the door for foreign mobile phone companies like Safaricom, which had hoped to introduce its popular M-Pesa mobile money transfer platform in the market of 100 million people, saying only local companies would be allowed to do offer such services.

Safaricom had launched talks with the Ethiopian government to launch the mobile money service in the country but Thursday, the Ethiopia’s central bank said it would only allow locally-owned non-financial institutions to offer mobile money services as it seeks to boost non-cash payments.

The new directive means that only companies like Ethio Telecom, which is a government-owned monopoly, have the greenlight to move into mobile money services. It also means foreign companies have effectively been locked out. As such, for a company like Safaricom to offer the service in Ethiopia, it will need to go into partnership with Ethio Telecom, which is in line to be privatised through the sale of a minority stake.

Safaricom, in partnership with its parent company Vodacom, and a number of other global telecom firms such as MTN, Orange, Etisalat and Airtel, have all expressed interest in gaining access to Ethiopia’s fast-growing mobile phone services market.

Without further changes to the regulations, Safaricom will remain unable to offer mobile financial services business in the customer-rich market, analysts said.



“This directive effectively excludes foreign fintech and telecom companies from reaping the business benefits,” Bahakal Abate, a corporate lawyer in Addis Ababa, told Reuters.

Besides telecommunications, the Ethiopian government last year announced plans to open up the aviation sector, the State logistics firm and electricity monopoly to private investment. The telecommunications monopoly, Ethio Telecom, is seen as the biggest prize due to its huge protected market. Ethio Telecom’s subscriber base of 44 million makes it the biggest single-country customer base of any operator in Africa.

Players like Safaricom are attracted by the growth potential in that market, whose 100 million population means the country a penetration rate of 44 percent. By contrast, Kenya’s 52.2 million mobile phone subscribers gives it a penetration of 109.2 percent.

M-Pesa has the potential to transform Ethiopia’s economy, as it has done in Kenya, by allowing people to sidestep a rickety and inefficient banking system and send each other money or make payments at the touch of a phone button. The ability to access digital banking services is likely to be a game-changer for Ethiopians whose banking sector has no way of transfering funds from one bank to another.

Safaricom is one of several Kenyan firms that have been eyeing the Ethiopian market for years due to the country’s huge population. Ethiopia has kept foreign involvement in the economy at a bare minimum.

The country has consistently registered robust economic growth, averaging 10 percent in the past five years, and its ongoing economic reforms look set to strengthen investor sentiment. Its population, which is the second largest in Africa after Nigeria, also offers immense opportunities for business.
watesh
#275 Posted : Friday, April 03, 2020 9:47:31 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/10/2014
Posts: 992
Location: Kenya
NewMoney wrote:
Monk wrote:
watesh wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
watesh wrote:
Safcom on a bull run already 28.5 now....back to pre-covid 19 prices

what's your take on this stubborn animal?

I think it's the whole sentiment in the market that their whole business model won't be affected negatively by the pandemic. Most analysts think they may gain from data revenue and mpesa revenue....personally, I took my profits at 27. The more this pandemic bites the less the spending in the market and less money circulating. Mpesa needs money to circulate to make money so after a while, it will start to bite. For me, at 28 - 30 it's fully priced for the current conditions... Long time for sure it has a lot of potential assuming no disruption in the industry


True, they'll be less money circulating for perhaps a year, but I think this pandemic will irreversibly change the behavior of many users like @aemathenge, after getting them accustomed to Lipa-na-Mpesa and e-commerce during his period. That will be a boon for Safaricom in the long term, as the economy recovers.



I will keep buying this counter. Post Covid-19, safaricom will easily cross the 50/= mark. Life will change as we know it, things will be more "digital" than ever and safaricom is the most important "digital" player at NSE

I feel it will need a number of years to hit 50. It technically means it should double its net income. Currently, voice revenues are on the decline due to disruption from the likes of whatsapp, customers are complaining about high mpesa charges and so alternatives like Pesalink are starting to be more attractive but at the moment it's still a very tiny competitor. Lipa Na Mpesa needs massive volumes to increases its revenue share in the mpesa revenue. It currently stands at less than 20%. Data revenue growth is always strangled with the annual price reductions.....50 is attainable but may take at least 2 years if our economy survives.....Ethiopia may never happen. Telecoms is a cash cow for the government and they may find it hard to let it go to foreign investors
Angelica _ann
#276 Posted : Friday, April 03, 2020 10:25:42 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,937
Currently it is defying Corona menenos well past 29 bob, now that full year result is just about to be announced, looks like they are good.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
winmak
#277 Posted : Friday, April 03, 2020 10:38:37 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 12/1/2007
Posts: 539
Location: Nakuru
watesh wrote:
NewMoney wrote:
Monk wrote:
watesh wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
watesh wrote:
Safcom on a bull run already 28.5 now....back to pre-covid 19 prices

what's your take on this stubborn animal?

I think it's the whole sentiment in the market that their whole business model won't be affected negatively by the pandemic. Most analysts think they may gain from data revenue and mpesa revenue....personally, I took my profits at 27. The more this pandemic bites the less the spending in the market and less money circulating. Mpesa needs money to circulate to make money so after a while, it will start to bite. For me, at 28 - 30 it's fully priced for the current conditions... Long time for sure it has a lot of potential assuming no disruption in the industry


True, they'll be less money circulating for perhaps a year, but I think this pandemic will irreversibly change the behavior of many users like @aemathenge, after getting them accustomed to Lipa-na-Mpesa and e-commerce during his period. That will be a boon for Safaricom in the long term, as the economy recovers.



I will keep buying this counter. Post Covid-19, safaricom will easily cross the 50/= mark. Life will change as we know it, things will be more "digital" than ever and safaricom is the most important "digital" player at NSE

I feel it will need a number of years to hit 50. It technically means it should double its net income. Currently, voice revenues are on the decline due to disruption from the likes of whatsapp, customers are complaining about high mpesa charges and so alternatives like Pesalink are starting to be more attractive but at the moment it's still a very tiny competitor. Lipa Na Mpesa needs massive volumes to increases its revenue share in the mpesa revenue. It currently stands at less than 20%. Data revenue growth is always strangled with the annual price reductions.....50 is attainable but may take at least 2 years if our economy survives.....Ethiopia may never happen. Telecoms is a cash cow for the government and they may find it hard to let it go to foreign investors



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Ericsson
#278 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 7:33:21 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,820
Location: NAIROBI
Angelica _ann wrote:
Currently it is defying Corona menenos well past 29 bob, now that full year result is just about to be announced, looks like they are good.


Mpesa is getting a big hit with the closing down of social places
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babashuge
#279 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 7:12:14 PM
Rank: New-farer

Joined: 1/4/2019
Posts: 69
Location: Nairobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
Currently it is defying Corona menenos well past 29 bob, now that full year result is just about to be announced, looks like they are good.


Are the foreigners that left back or is it general confidence in the mpesa that's keeping it up?
babashuge
#280 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 7:14:48 PM
Rank: New-farer

Joined: 1/4/2019
Posts: 69
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Currently it is defying Corona menenos well past 29 bob, now that full year result is just about to be announced, looks like they are good.


Mpesa is getting a big hit with the closing down of social places


There's a lot more mpesa transactions generally, and turns out they aren't free... i'm really curious to see how the numbers pan out for mpesa Q1 & Q2
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