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Is MSC diversifying for post COMESA period??
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:31:21 PM
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Ephy wrote:
With that in mind,what is the projected price of this share with a longeterm perspective?

I think below 13 would be a great time to enter. As the results near, it is bound to rise.
Mumias Sugar has so many projects for the future. I would say it is a FANTASTIC SHARE FOR THE LONG TERM
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:49:42 PM
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By the way, why would sugar imported from other COMESA countries be cheaper? Mumias can't complain about electricity cost like all other industries. So is it because of the cost of cane from farmers or is it inferior technology?

BBI will solve it
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:23:34 PM
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@winston, sugar levy and VAT make Kenya sugar uncompetitive. @youcant, H2 results are not as good as H1, so I don't expect significant price appreciation.
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:28:19 PM
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@Ephy MSC is a very good long term buy long term for a number of reasons..

1. they have $300million or 25billion shillings set aside for acquisitions around east africa

2. they are planning to diversify their income into bottled water and ethanol production..

3. they are planning to increase their extremely high margin co generation (around 80%) from 38MW to 50MW by next year...

4. they have a major aim of increasing their sugar production and reducing costs...

5. from an economic point of view as the population shoots up around EA demand for sugar follows suit..

the major reason people view this share as expensive is because it was at 3bob last year.. but i have this to say... this stock can easily rally to 20bob this year if all goes to plan...
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guru267
#15 Posted : Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:42:38 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
@winston, sugar levy and VAT make Kenya sugar uncompetitive. @youcant, H2 results are not as good as H1, so I don't expect significant price appreciation.


@GG hate when people look at percentages instead of the actual numbers...

in the case of mumias H2 will not have 560% profit growth but it will be equal to H1 because it will earn 1.5billion+ in both halves... giving a 40% profit growth for the year...
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the deal
#16 Posted : Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:59:59 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Gordon Gekko wrote:
@winston, sugar levy and VAT make Kenya sugar uncompetitive. @youcant, H2 results are not as good as H1, so I don't expect significant price appreciation.


@GG hate when people look at percentages instead of the actual numbers...

in the case of mumias H2 will not have 560% profit growth but it will be equal to H1 because it will earn 1.5billion+ in both halves... giving a 40% profit growth for the year...

ja thats the thing a 40% growth in profits for 2010...probably a 0.50 dividend...@ the current prices MSC is fully priced...probably a 10% rally on the announcement of the results...if MSC is to reach 20 bob maybe Jan 2011 depending on 1H results...anyways Prof how far is the TARDA project coz Comesa is 2012....
winston
#17 Posted : Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:20:36 PM
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guru267 wrote:


the major reason people view this share as expensive is because it was at 3bob last year.. but i have this to say... this stock can easily rally to 20bob this year if all goes to plan...


@Guru - Am with you on this. Viewed differently if MSC were to have an 'IPO' at 12.70 (current price) and given all the facts/fundamentals would one buy now? I would say yes.
guru267
#18 Posted : Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:04:36 PM
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the deal wrote:

ja thats the thing a 40% growth in profits for 2010...probably a 0.50 dividend...@ the current prices MSC is fully priced...probably a 10% rally on the announcement of the results...if MSC is to reach 20 bob maybe Jan 2011 depending on 1H results...anyways Prof how far is the TARDA project coz Comesa is 2012....


i expect a 0.6 dividend not 0.5 and 40% growth will give a P/E of around 8... i'm in this stock for the long term but i do expect more than a 10% rally after results
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guru267
#19 Posted : Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:06:10 PM
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the deal wrote:

ja thats the thing a 40% growth in profits for 2010...probably a 0.50 dividend...@ the current prices MSC is fully priced...probably a 10% rally on the announcement of the results...if MSC is to reach 20 bob maybe Jan 2011 depending on 1H results...anyways Prof how far is the TARDA project coz Comesa is 2012....


i expect a 0.6 dividend not 0.5 and 40% growth will give a P/E of around 8... i'm in this stock for the long term but i do expect more than a 10% rally after results
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
VituVingiSana
#20 Posted : Friday, July 09, 2010 1:14:35 AM
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A widely held stock so the ups & downs are limited due to buying + selling competition... Unfortunately, the route of sugar passes thru RV which is a prime area for Referendoom violence... See PEV 2008...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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