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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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mpobiz wrote:murchr wrote:mpobiz wrote:This is just passing wind. Though the most vulnerable are at risk. I fear for them. Case study Italy. The old and the terminally ill. Those are the ones to stay at home. And if you have such people in your life just keep off from them. Stay away from them. Your show of ignorance is pathetic, use those few bundles to educate yourself The US has reported 13K new cases in 1 day, 12K in New York. Patient 0 being that lawyer who used the subway. Ofcourse there are others who travelled in and spread it but that case stood out. Italy 651 new deaths better than yesterday but with 5k new cases, they are definitely not off the woods yet My dear bro.. there is a big difference between geting infected, recovering and dying from this virus.ask your self this questions and Google for answers => What is the ratio of the patients who have recovered and those who have died ? What is the demography of the people who have recovered vis a vis the persons who have died. why are you only looking at things in 2D? In 3D there is also a high recovery rate. How comes since the first case that was reported in rongai and in relation with the video you have played up there we only have 15 cases so far and most of them are imported cases? I read somehere that the situation in China was aggravated by the winter situation there. here the heat is just unbearable even for the virus. In my opinion this self quarantine indoors is just a European thing because indoors is the only warm place. Here anybody walking around in this heat has a better chance of very quickly beating the virus. That is how I have been using my bundles to do some research unlike you instead of counting the sick and the dead. Don't dear me, just get some education buddy and stop splattered ignorance on the internet "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Granted, you may be correct and all may need to follow your logic.
Does anyone have details on how the tests and the two week quarantines are programmed or distributed? Or rather how does one really do the two?
Alma is just doing one of the two activities so far - self quarantine - but no test as yet...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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tycho wrote:Granted, you may be correct and all may need to follow your logic.
Does anyone have details on how the tests and the two week quarantines are programmed or distributed? Or rather how does one really do the two?
Alma is just doing one of the two activities so far - self quarantine - but no test as yet... Not everyone is being tested, and surely there's enough material on the internet "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:tycho wrote:Granted, you may be correct and all may need to follow your logic.
Does anyone have details on how the tests and the two week quarantines are programmed or distributed? Or rather how does one really do the two?
Alma is just doing one of the two activities so far - self quarantine - but no test as yet... Not everyone is being tested, and surely there's enough material on the internet I won't lie that I can understand how this response fits in with Alma's solution. Nevertheless, a search on 'testing and quarantine program, Kenya, Covid-19' reveals different and irrelevant links. Alma is likely to have a more than 14 day quarantine - waiting for government directives: so neither the testing or quarantine idea seems to be cogent. I hope I can figure out what you're saying.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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tycho wrote:murchr wrote:tycho wrote:Granted, you may be correct and all may need to follow your logic.
Does anyone have details on how the tests and the two week quarantines are programmed or distributed? Or rather how does one really do the two?
Alma is just doing one of the two activities so far - self quarantine - but no test as yet... Not everyone is being tested, and surely there's enough material on the internet I won't lie that I can understand how this response fits in with Alma's solution. Nevertheless, a search on 'testing and quarantine program, Kenya, Covid-19' reveals different and irrelevant links. Alma is likely to have a more than 14 day quarantine - waiting for government directives: so neither the testing or quarantine idea seems to be cogent. I hope I can figure out what you're saying. I think we are equating staying at home with quarantine.@Alma is staying at home but he is not in quarantine. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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Bigchick wrote:I think we are equating staying at home with quarantine.
@Alma is staying at home but he is not in quarantine.4 Correction. @Alma WORKS from home.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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aemathenge wrote:Bigchick wrote:I think we are equating staying at home with quarantine.
@Alma is staying at home but he is not in quarantine.4 Correction. @Alma WORKS from home. Correct he works from home but would go out marketing,collecting his payments,shopping and socializing over a tot of Viceroy,mug of coffee or a bottle of Whitecup light. But now he does not get out of the house at all.He has not only followed the guidelines bu MOH but has also developed his own for his household and following them to the letter.Well done @ALMA Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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Bigchick wrote:aemathenge wrote:Bigchick wrote:I think we are equating staying at home with quarantine.
@Alma is staying at home but he is not in quarantine.4 Correction. @Alma WORKS from home. Correct he works from home but would go out marketing,collecting his payments,shopping and socializing over a tot of Viceroy,mug of coffee or a bottle of Whitecup light. But now he does not get out of the house at all.He has not only followed the guidelines bu MOH but has also developed his own for his household and following them to the letter.Well done @ALMA I am lost. Isn't this what being in quarantine is all about?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Another thing I can't be certain about is if we have enough testing kits. I don't know what you make of it. But what are the probabilities that Kenya has enough testing kits to emulate a country like South Korea? When I read that Israelis and Americans are searching for these kits all over, then surely someone is losing out on supplies. Who?
Then if we study the graphs of the global powers we realize that we have like 4-5 months of agony. Germany is holding out good but a flatter normal also means longer especially economic recovery periods. China has managed to contain the virus so far, but since other countries are lagging in recovery, what can it do, except wait while giving support to a wide field. And besides, there could be a resurgence. We cannot be confident of a clearly defined economic and political environment for over 5 months, and that is too long a siege. We should not take that risk.
My suggestion is that we:
1. Carry out a diplomatic initiative with our neighbouring countries to intensify on trade in food and basic commodities, and encourage subsistence farming even in urban centers
2. Declare war on the virus and deploy our disciplined forces, volunteer or otherwise to be the main supply conduits across borders, and to engage them in civilian cooperation regarding internal distribution till epidemic containment
3. Offer corporations incentive to adopt virtual working environments for their employees
4. Offer special care and attention to population segments that are particularly vulnerable to Covid infection
5. Encourage essential work under stringent conditions for all able bodied persons likely to have mild symptoms.
6. Identify and promote new adaptive behavior through cultural action
7. Encourage more use of e-commerce and offer a robust security and support system
I believe these measures will help us solve the threat posed by this virus in a way that is comprehensive and economical while minimizing its negative effects to the best of our capacity.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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tycho wrote:Another thing I can't be certain about is if we have enough testing kits. I don't know what you make of it. But what are the probabilities that Kenya has enough testing kits to emulate a country like South Korea? When I read that Israelis and Americans are searching for these kits all over, then surely someone is losing out on supplies. Who?
Then if we study the graphs of the global powers we realize that we have like 4-5 months of agony. Germany is holding out good but a flatter normal also means longer especially economic recovery periods. China has managed to contain the virus so far, but since other countries are lagging in recovery, what can it do, except wait while giving support to a wide field. And besides, there could be a resurgence. We cannot be confident of a clearly defined economic and political environment for over 5 months, and that is too long a siege. We should not take that risk.
My suggestion is that we:
1. Carry out a diplomatic initiative with our neighbouring countries to intensify on trade in food and basic commodities, and encourage subsistence farming even in urban centers
2. Declare war on the virus and deploy our disciplined forces, volunteer or otherwise to be the main supply conduits across borders, and to engage them in civilian cooperation regarding internal distribution till epidemic containment
3. Offer corporations incentive to adopt virtual working environments for their employees
4. Offer special care and attention to population segments that are particularly vulnerable to Covid infection
5. Encourage essential work under stringent conditions for all able bodied persons likely to have mild symptoms.
6. Identify and promote new adaptive behavior through cultural action
7. Encourage more use of e-commerce and offer a robust security and support system
I believe these measures will help us solve the threat posed by this virus in a way that is comprehensive and economical while minimizing its negative effects to the best of our capacity.
Nice thesis
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