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Safaricom Investment Company - IFRS Impact on FY2019
Ericsson
#11 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2020 5:12:14 PM
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RIEK01 wrote:
There was a change in management in Feb 19, they should be looked at with more scrutiny.


The previous management made their money and left
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murchr
#12 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2020 5:26:41 PM
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maina20 wrote:
murchr wrote:
I see the big hole in sale of land and housing. Plus what's with the hike in internet expenses?


The Property market is currently low, even Prism Towers are yet to get a tenant -one year down the line. Harambee sacco is also struggling to dispose land on target profit margins -

https://www.businessdail...4024-c8enawz/index.html

I agree, a change in reporting standards is not a scape goat for market reality...


Everything else seems to be normal apart from sale of land and housing. The economy is hurting everyone
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Ericsson
#13 Posted : Saturday, February 08, 2020 3:59:40 PM
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murchr wrote:
maina20 wrote:
murchr wrote:
I see the big hole in sale of land and housing. Plus what's with the hike in internet expenses?


The Property market is currently low, even Prism Towers are yet to get a tenant -one year down the line. Harambee sacco is also struggling to dispose land on target profit margins -

https://www.businessdail...4024-c8enawz/index.html

I agree, a change in reporting standards is not a scape goat for market reality...


Everything else seems to be normal apart from sale of land and housing. The economy is hurting everyone

So it needs skill and skin to avoid being burnt
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murchr
#14 Posted : Saturday, February 08, 2020 5:21:15 PM
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Who is attending the meeting?

Admin move this tgread to the appropriate section
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tkzee
#15 Posted : Monday, February 10, 2020 11:26:51 AM
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maina20 wrote:
Just received the Financial reports for SIC-FY2019...how can change in reporting swallow ksh500 Million Operating profit?
https://gallery.mailchim...ncial_Accounts_2019.pdf


Looks like the revenue recognition was not proper.Revenue was previously recognised when customer made a deposit.Currently,recognition is done once the selling process is completed. I would say IAS 18 was not very clear on revenue recognition hence for room for manupulation.
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maina20
#16 Posted : Monday, February 10, 2020 11:44:33 AM
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tkzee wrote:
maina20 wrote:
Just received the Financial reports for SIC-FY2019...how can change in reporting swallow ksh500 Million Operating profit?
https://gallery.mailchim...ncial_Accounts_2019.pdf


Looks like the revenue recognition was not proper.Revenue was previously recognised when customer made a deposit.Currently,recognition is done once the selling process is completed. I would say IAS 18 was not very clear on revenue recognition hence for room for manupulation.


d'oh! Sad Sad https://www.businessdail...49468-frc18h/index.html
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Mukiri
#17 Posted : Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:59:48 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
murchr wrote:
maina20 wrote:
murchr wrote:
I see the big hole in sale of land and housing. Plus what's with the hike in internet expenses?


The Property market is currently low, even Prism Towers are yet to get a tenant -one year down the line. Harambee sacco is also struggling to dispose land on target profit margins -

https://www.businessdail...4024-c8enawz/index.html

I agree, a change in reporting standards is not a scape goat for market reality...


Everything else seems to be normal apart from sale of land and housing. The economy is hurting everyone

So it needs skill and skin to avoid being burnt

Diversification IMO

They should get into the business of drilling boreholes... and start with the properties they've sold. My thinking is, if people made use of the idle land they bought, they'd have money to buy more property and/or shares. When the land is dry, the pockets are dry, income and dividends dry

Proverbs 19:21
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