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aemathenge
#21 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2020 8:59:17 AM
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Location: Kerugoya
alma1 wrote:
Please give some respect to the great man.

Have some respect.

Or What?
alma1
#22 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2020 9:07:05 AM
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aemathenge wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Please give some respect to the great man.

Have some respect.

Or What?


Or nothing.

It's just good manners and it reflects on you. Not him.

It costs you nothing to be respectful. But it sure is a great reflection of your character to wish hell on others however bad they may have seemed.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

aemathenge
#23 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2020 9:52:04 AM
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Posts: 3,434
Location: Kerugoya
alma1 wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Please give some respect to the great man.

Have some respect.

Or What?


Or nothing.

It's just good manners and it reflects on you. Not him.

It costs you nothing to be respectful. But it sure is a great reflection of your character to wish hell on others however bad they may have seemed.


I will take my chances.

Where "he" is concerned, good manners be damned.

And yes, may he rot in hell.
Angelica _ann
#24 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2020 9:56:48 AM
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Where and when did Moi provide free secondary & university education?
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
kaka2za
#25 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2020 10:22:42 AM
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Joined: 10/3/2008
Posts: 4,058
Location: Gwitu
Angelica _ann wrote:
Where and when did Moi provide free secondary & university education?


Maybe after retirement.
Remember the 1991 university riots to protest introduction of fees?
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
Shak
#26 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2020 12:05:31 PM
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Joined: 2/22/2009
Posts: 2,449
Location: Africa
Angelica _ann wrote:
Where and when did Moi provide free secondary & university education?

I'm also wondering.
alma1
#27 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2020 1:49:20 PM
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Joined: 9/19/2015
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Location: hapo
It's always good to be truthful.

Your opinions on whether he goes to heaven or not are basically worthless. I don't remember an election to going to heaven.

I just saw Koigi saying that he won't go to the same heaven as Moi. Who told Koigi, he will go to heaven?

The most most of you paid for high school was 1000 bob a term. Compare that to your venerated gov'ts that came after. You even had no shame carrying Ugali to school to drink with maziwa ya Nyayo.

Some of you kwanza from gishagi would never have seen the city and ended up famished in your gishagi.

Most of you are just payukaring the words you heard or read or twitted by Miguna Miguna. Who among you was brutalized by Moi personally?

And please if you are honest those that claim to have been brutalised like Miguna, why don't you vote for them?

Mention one person who was brutalized by Moi that you can elect right now.

If Koigi was such a good person, even the people of his village will not vote for him. If Miguna was brutalised even you refused to vote for him. Would you vote for Mudavadi for president?

It is ok to not be concerned. Lakini 98% of you have no evidence whatsoever other than rumors that he brutalized you.

We call that heresay.

Ohh. It's not like I would vote for him. Lakini when I think of the alternatives back then, afadhali Moi mara 1000%.

Kibaki was his protege, Uhuru his protege and you bloody well woke up at 4am to vote them in.

Wewe kaa with your useless opinions and let his family grieve. You should be more concerned on whether we open a thread on wazua on how useless you were.

Moi's issues are done and God will not seek your opinion.
#jusayin
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

tycho
#28 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2020 2:42:43 PM
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Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
@alma, I am from 'bundus-reserve', and I am also a member of the bundus sacco: and after a quick survey most claim that they'd still end up in the city even without Moi.

It's probable that some of the bundus group paid 1000/- per term for fees. What I don't understand is if it would have made a difference if it were 100,000/-. For me it wouldn't. Especially when you talk about distribution of income and wealth and how the economy has plodded on the 100m race - gumboots, shin guards, socks, and kadhalika mguuni.

So, I know that you are a 'boomer'smile and yeah, 'boomers' have their loyalty pledges deeply etched in their psyches. But surely, how can what a person has done be the basis of our respect when they are dead?

Heeh! Imagine tycho dying without you guys seeing the great works he does everyday!smile

Anyway, the reason why we should respect all humans - even the ones we have murdered with our bloody hands - is that they become the living dead, and if not handled well, their spirits will haunt us vibaya. Vibaya!smile

For example, @hardwood, essyk, newfarer, we need to slaughter a he-goat for @Mahegoat, because, he has chosen a 'fight-mode' with a dead man. Whether he likes it or not, he has to keep guard over the departed - like send a spiritual army - to guard against alma, and Tycho, and Giddy... It's bad psychology. So to liberate him....smile - You even heard him say he is drinking Keroche Breweries todaysmile. That's a symptom of the problem I am talking about. It is 'thahu'smile

Yeah @alma, sorry for sounding like a pugulistsmile I saw you at the last Njuri Njeke meeting. I was seated opposite the old geezer who forgot his namesmile and I feel you, a guy. I feel feel you, and the bunduz guyz feel you too.

"Waiter! Patia huyo silverback ako na macho red, Keroche Breweries mbili. Patia ile mbuzi iko kwa kona...

Wapi Francois Lwanzo de Alba, atupatie ngoma ya wakongomani!"

smile d'oh! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

tycho
#29 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2020 3:00:19 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
I think Moi inspired great music. Aside from the beautiful Mbilia Bel song about going to Nairobi to sing for Baba Moi, I have this special that makes me cry...

Oh Kenya kipenzi,
Ndege wanaimba, wanyama wa Kenya,
Ni mshangilio!

... Heko baba Moi kwa uongozi wa ...

The voices, the emotion, the inspiration...
alma1
#30 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2020 3:56:40 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/19/2015
Posts: 2,871
Location: hapo
tycho wrote:
@alma, I am from 'bundus-reserve', and I am also a member of the bundus sacco: and after a quick survey most claim that they'd still end up in the city even without Moi.

It's probable that some of the bundus group paid 1000/- per term for fees. What I don't understand is if it would have made a difference if it were 100,000/-. For me it wouldn't. Especially when you talk about distribution of income and wealth and how the economy has plodded on the 100m race - gumboots, shin guards, socks, and kadhalika mguuni.

So, I know that you are a 'boomer'smile and yeah, 'boomers' have their loyalty pledges deeply etched in their psyches. But surely, how can what a person has done be the basis of our respect when they are dead?

Heeh! Imagine tycho dying without you guys seeing the great works he does everyday!smile

Anyway, the reason why we should respect all humans - even the ones we have murdered with our bloody hands - is that they become the living dead, and if not handled well, their spirits will haunt us vibaya. Vibaya!smile

For example, @hardwood, essyk, newfarer, we need to slaughter a he-goat for @Mahegoat, because, he has chosen a 'fight-mode' with a dead man. Whether he likes it or not, he has to keep guard over the departed - like send a spiritual army - to guard against alma, and Tycho, and Giddy... It's bad psychology. So to liberate him....smile - You even heard him say he is drinking Keroche Breweries todaysmile. That's a symptom of the problem I am talking about. It is 'thahu'smile

Yeah @alma, sorry for sounding like a pugulistsmile I saw you at the last Njuri Njeke meeting. I was seated opposite the old geezer who forgot his namesmile and I feel you, a guy. I feel feel you, and the bunduz guyz feel you too.

"Waiter! Patia huyo silverback ako na macho red, Keroche Breweries mbili. Patia ile mbuzi iko kwa kona...

Wapi Francois Lwanzo de Alba, atupatie ngoma ya wakongomani!"

smile d'oh! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

You see, that's a better argument than what the millenials are shouting about here.

They have never seen him and only read about him in books. All they know is maziwa ya nyayo.

Just to poke a few fellas on this forum yapping now. If it were not for Moi, Laira wud chuari haf been.

Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

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