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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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When you are doing blackhat like Itumbi on wazua, you are also in the open. We have each and every statement you have ever made and we also know who pays you. We also know each other personally. We know. Apana kuja hapa ukidhania hatukujui. I write here my own opinions. Some of the monikers on wazua are owned by Alai and Itumbi...The admin knows it. I can assure you, you will never meet them in person. Jinga kabisa. Some of us have been doing this shit when you had diapers. Looto will not be voted for on this forum....Only Masukuma is real and you can see it in his posts. Lakini, next meeting iko Kitui....Tukutane huko. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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kaka2za wrote:Murkormen supporting BBI and referendum?! Kuna chess inachezwa hapa.
Ruto team has been in support of BBI since the beginning they are not in support of the additions of DPM making the PM more powerful than the President etc. Hence the question why the rallies? This is not like the Ndizi vs Chungwa referendum issue. IT'S A WASTE OF TAX PAYERS MONEY UNDER UHURU'S WATCH "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/21/2018 Posts: 564 Location: Britain
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kaka2za wrote:Murkormen supporting BBI and referendum?! Kuna chess inachezwa hapa.
Hakuna game hapo. His apparent sycophancy today could only be understood by anybody who reared rabbits in their youth.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Queen wrote:kaka2za wrote:Murkormen supporting BBI and referendum?! Kuna chess inachezwa hapa.
Hakuna game hapo. His apparent sycophancy today could only be understood by anybody who reared rabbits in their youth. Well I only reared a rabbit for one week before it was eaten by our Cat so tuelemishwe jamani Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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alma1 wrote:Lolest! wrote:I will not support BBI because I find it pointless & a waste of public funds.
One can sense some ulterior motive in the campaigns
We opposed Punguza Mzigo chiefly because of the disenfranchisement of populous counties. Toa roho yako yote.. Apana jifanya hapa...It's the internet...We know each and every thing you have said. Watu wa Ruto, hakuna kujificha hapa. We know and this time, we shall tell you what we know. Uhuru is the president of Kenya...Ruto is like his maid. Mjipange. You are soooo confused you don't even know your own argument. Lakini leo Murkomen aliita Baba BABA. We are citizens of this country, we don't need politiking, we need money. Sio siasa za pesa nane. What has Ichungwa done other than sign off on a bill that tells small businesses in Kenya to pay 3% annually. That was in Ichungwas docket and we know. I will never vote for Looto...But i shall vote for Chicho Pevu... Enda ukuwe prefect kwa nyumba yako. I WILL WRITE WHAT I WANT. Live with it Nobody has stopped you from jumping from supporting Mcreggae, then claiming you won't vote, then claiming that you voted for your cat, then supporting Uhuru, then supporting Punguza Mzigo, then opposing BBI, now supporting BBI without discussing its merits/demerits. OK you've discussed merits by telling us BBI will stop Ruto. I don't see how. We are on BBI thread. Give us your thoughts on it. There are many threads on Lootall. We shall discuss him there
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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A new one. They now want regional governments (I guess these are what was previously known as provinces) and since the 47 county governors and 47 senators are enshrined in the constitution they are going no where. Last week Maraga asked Uhuru for more money to fund the Judiciary and Uhuru flat out told him that since they stop every initiative to raise taxes that the govt proposes they get nothing, in short he asked Maraga to tame his officers who issue injunctions when the taxpayer feels that his rights are being violated. Being Kenyan is a becoming like a curse. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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murchr wrote:A new one. They now want regional governments (I guess these are what was previously known as provinces) and since the 47 county governors and 47 senators are enshrined in the constitution they are going no where.
Last week Maraga asked Uhuru for more money to fund the Judiciary and Uhuru flat out told him that since they stop every initiative to raise taxes that the govt proposes they get nothing, in short he asked Maraga to tame his officers who issue injunctions when the taxpayer feels that his rights are being violated. Being Kenyan is a becoming like a curse. It has been a curse for a while. Surprised it took you so long to notice. Your Damascus moment finally arrived. Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Lolest! wrote:alma1 wrote:Lolest! wrote:I will not support BBI because I find it pointless & a waste of public funds.
One can sense some ulterior motive in the campaigns
We opposed Punguza Mzigo chiefly because of the disenfranchisement of populous counties. Toa roho yako yote.. Apana jifanya hapa...It's the internet...We know each and every thing you have said. Watu wa Ruto, hakuna kujificha hapa. We know and this time, we shall tell you what we know. Uhuru is the president of Kenya...Ruto is like his maid. Mjipange. You are soooo confused you don't even know your own argument. Lakini leo Murkomen aliita Baba BABA. We are citizens of this country, we don't need politiking, we need money. Sio siasa za pesa nane. What has Ichungwa done other than sign off on a bill that tells small businesses in Kenya to pay 3% annually. That was in Ichungwas docket and we know. I will never vote for Looto...But i shall vote for Chicho Pevu... Enda ukuwe prefect kwa nyumba yako. I WILL WRITE WHAT I WANT. Live with it Nobody has stopped you from jumping from supporting Mcreggae, then claiming you won't vote, then claiming that you voted for your cat, then supporting Uhuru, then supporting Punguza Mzigo, then opposing BBI, now supporting BBI without discussing its merits/demerits. OK you've discussed merits by telling us BBI will stop Ruto. I don't see how. We are on BBI thread. Give us your thoughts on it. There are many threads on Lootall. We shall discuss him there @alma is asking talking about you guys: confused lot. Those who act based on money. He is talking what people will do despite nyef nyef here on Social media. @alma is saying mtatii... He is not talking himself, but you.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/21/2018 Posts: 564 Location: Britain
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kaka2za wrote:Queen wrote:kaka2za wrote:Murkormen supporting BBI and referendum?! Kuna chess inachezwa hapa.
Hakuna game hapo. His apparent sycophancy today could only be understood by anybody who reared rabbits in their youth. Well I only reared a rabbit for one week before it was eaten by our Cat so tuelemishwe jamani If you wanted your doe to conceive immediately and you didn't have a buck, you took your doe to your neighbour who had a buck. The mating would start immediately and you could even go home with your doe on the same day and wait for it to give birth after the normal gestation period. Conversely, some uninformed boys would borrow the neighbour's buck and bring it to their doe for the same purpose. Suffice to say that it would take quite some days before the mating happened and consequently the doe took time to conceive in this second scenario. Hope you get the drift.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:alma1 wrote:Lolest! wrote:I will not support BBI because I find it pointless & a waste of public funds.
One can sense some ulterior motive in the campaigns
We opposed Punguza Mzigo chiefly because of the disenfranchisement of populous counties. Toa roho yako yote.. Apana jifanya hapa...It's the internet...We know each and every thing you have said. Watu wa Ruto, hakuna kujificha hapa. We know and this time, we shall tell you what we know. Uhuru is the president of Kenya...Ruto is like his maid. Mjipange. You are soooo confused you don't even know your own argument. Lakini leo Murkomen aliita Baba BABA. We are citizens of this country, we don't need politiking, we need money. Sio siasa za pesa nane. What has Ichungwa done other than sign off on a bill that tells small businesses in Kenya to pay 3% annually. That was in Ichungwas docket and we know. I will never vote for Looto...But i shall vote for Chicho Pevu... Enda ukuwe prefect kwa nyumba yako. I WILL WRITE WHAT I WANT. Live with it Nobody has stopped you from jumping from supporting Mcreggae, then claiming you won't vote, then claiming that you voted for your cat, then supporting Uhuru, then supporting Punguza Mzigo, then opposing BBI, now supporting BBI without discussing its merits/demerits. OK you've discussed merits by telling us BBI will stop Ruto. I don't see how. We are on BBI thread. Give us your thoughts on it. There are many threads on Lootall. We shall discuss him there @alma is asking talking about you guys: confused lot. Those who act based on money. He is talking what people will do despite nyef nyef here on Social media. @alma is saying mtatii... He is not talking himself, but you. Nice try. Nice try. Let's discuss BBI why do you think we should pass it?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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murchr wrote:A new one. They now want regional governments (I guess these are what was previously known as provinces) and since the 47 county governors and 47 senators are enshrined in the constitution they are going no where.
Last week Maraga asked Uhuru for more money to fund the Judiciary and Uhuru flat out told him that since they stop every initiative to raise taxes that the govt proposes they get nothing, in short he asked Maraga to tame his officers who issue injunctions when the taxpayer feels that his rights are being violated. Being Kenyan is a becoming like a curse. This is not new , it was proposed by Raila in the 6th devolution conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY5UFVKN3rc ( go to 3.30 ) and opposed by Ruto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRvvup1zisI ( go to 0.32 ) He was always against a 3 tier system lakini wakenya wakikubai kubebwa ufala, what can Ruto do? T his is BBI2, They could not have this rubbish in the launched document, so it has to be sneaked in through " consultation with wanaichi via the ongoing campaigns) Now we have governors on second term, they need jobs,hence the gluttonous support for #BBInonsense, DPMs, regional bosses and all the rest of the rubbish. Only Kenyans can stop this through #punguzamzigo. Mungu aone huruma. As it is , governors are now billionaires ( but we have only one thief called Ruto ) mkenya hata dawa hapati, na bado twataka more political representation, nani alituroga ? I am happy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Amores wrote:murchr wrote:A new one. They now want regional governments (I guess these are what was previously known as provinces) and since the 47 county governors and 47 senators are enshrined in the constitution they are going no where.
Last week Maraga asked Uhuru for more money to fund the Judiciary and Uhuru flat out told him that since they stop every initiative to raise taxes that the govt proposes they get nothing, in short he asked Maraga to tame his officers who issue injunctions when the taxpayer feels that his rights are being violated. Being Kenyan is a becoming like a curse. This is not new , it was proposed by Raila in the 6th devolution conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY5UFVKN3rc ( go to 3.30 ) and opposed by Ruto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRvvup1zisI ( go to 0.32 ) He was always against a 3 tier system lakini wakenya wakikubai kubebwa ufala, what can Ruto do? T his is BBI2, They could not have this rubbish in the launched document, so it has to be sneaked in through " consultation with wanaichi via the ongoing campaigns) Now we have governors on second term, they need jobs,hence the gluttonous support for #BBInonsense, DPMs, regional bosses and all the rest of the rubbish. Only Kenyans can stop this through #punguzamzigo. Mungu aone huruma. As it is , governors are now billionaires ( but we have only one thief called Ruto ) mkenya hata dawa hapati, na bado twataka more political representation, nani alituroga ? @Alma will be serving tea in the regional office in Nyeri "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 2,038 Location: GA
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Meanwhile, Kalonzo is planning the next party that will be held in his village (never mind the residents there are scrambling for the little food left by locusts) His Agenda: Scrub the term limit of governors and make sure the PM is powerful. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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Hehehehe! @ alma, sasa unakubali we don't need hizi viti they want to create in BBI2 ( the real thing which you refuse to acknowledged and say it is only in the minds of anti Uhuru brigade) ama siku hizi your goggles are every big? Kweli politicians wajua kubeba wananchi ufala, na wananchi wanakubali nonsense. I am happy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Amores wrote:Hehehehe! @ alma, sasa unakubali we don't need hizi viti they want to create in BBI2 ( the real thing which you refuse to acknowledged and say it is only in the minds of anti Uhuru brigade) ama siku hizi your goggles are every big? Kweli politicians wajua kubeba wananchi ufala, na wananchi wanakubali nonsense. Amores, mimi sio Murchr who gets paid to post on wazua. I say what I think and I'm very very consistent. I will not vote for a thief...Ever...Neither will I vote for someone or write something online when I know that I've been paid. I do know that one day, my chudren will read what I have written on wazua and they will judge me accordingly. I said here mtatii. Not because I support BBI or otherwise, but because I know the people who post here. They will say whatever the muthamaki says depending on their level of pay. I can assure you without a shadow of a doubt...Kutakua na BBI na kutakua na referendum. Baba na Uhuru wakisema, mtatii. Mpende msipende. What you should do is go for these community forums that are happening a few days before BBI meetings and say your peace. That shall help you a lot. Lakini if you think for one second that Looto and Moses Kuria can beat Uhuru in central, wewe bado uko na hakili za mariga. Ask Waititu what happened to him. Those are just facts. Accept them and move on. Again I shall advise your fren Ruto...You lost the moment you supported Waititu in Central...Now go to Muranga with Didi Nyoro...Utajua haujui very soon. By the way...I will never vote for Uhuru and will never vote for Raila..And without a shadow of a doubt will never efa efa vote for Ruto. Just saying like a citizen of the republic of Kenya. Who really hates people who steal. Thieves. Na Murchr, I told you about Nyeri a long time ago. Never forget it. And never forget who told you first..Hapa Tûtîkûenderio gûoya Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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Moses Kuria "thrown out" of BBI meeting. https://www.the-star.co....ats-at-kitui-bbi-forum/
Quote:A visibly agitated Ngilu shouted that the Gatundu South MP be removed from the area.
"Nobody will abuse our President Uhuru Kenyatta and sit in this meeting! Atolewe!" Ngilu shouted. Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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sqft wrote:Moses Kuria "thrown out" of BBI meeting. https://www.the-star.co....ats-at-kitui-bbi-forum/
Quote:A visibly agitated Ngilu shouted that the Gatundu South MP be removed from the area.
"Nobody will abuse our President Uhuru Kenyatta and sit in this meeting! Atolewe!" Ngilu shouted. Kwanza tunamngojea sana Nyeri...Aseme vile anasemanga kwa TV Nobody can stop lengeee Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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alma1 wrote:sqft wrote:Moses Kuria "thrown out" of BBI meeting. https://www.the-star.co....ats-at-kitui-bbi-forum/
Quote:A visibly agitated Ngilu shouted that the Gatundu South MP be removed from the area.
"Nobody will abuse our President Uhuru Kenyatta and sit in this meeting! Atolewe!" Ngilu shouted. Kwanza tunamngojea sana Nyeri...Aseme vile anasemanga kwa TV Nobody can stop lengeee A new proposal on the BBI Kitui agenda. Split Kitui to create Mwingi county. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:sqft wrote:Moses Kuria "thrown out" of BBI meeting. https://www.the-star.co....ats-at-kitui-bbi-forum/
Quote:A visibly agitated Ngilu shouted that the Gatundu South MP be removed from the area.
"Nobody will abuse our President Uhuru Kenyatta and sit in this meeting! Atolewe!" Ngilu shouted. Kwanza tunamngojea sana Nyeri...Aseme vile anasemanga kwa TV Nobody can stop lengeee Murchr, this is a better view. Let me tell you something for free. I know my employees don't think I'm a very nice person. But I can assure without a shadow of a doubt, I will fire you in 2 minutes if you tell me that to my face. Kuria should be organising his meetings in Gatundu. Not tanga tangaring in Ngilu's compound. Atolewe!!! Tanga Tanga...Pris, stop provoking people to gain bonga points. You will be ejected.. Moses Kuria...Be a man. As in I'm calling you not a man. Organise an Anti Uhuru campaign in your own constituency. If you can't then return Lootos money. This Murchr is a better view Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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