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Kenya Economy Watch
kawi254
#2441 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2020 2:48:21 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
In 1990, Kenya with 814,000 tourists significantly led Dubai (450,000) and Ethiopia (64,000).

In 2018:
Kenya earns $1.55bn from 2m tourists
Dubai earns $18.7bn from 16m tourists
Ethiopia earns $7.4bn from 1.4m tourists


These stats tell us that we attract students and backpakers as tourists


What tourists attraction are there in Ethiopia (that beats Kenya), asking for a friend?


1.Lucy
2. lalibela sewn rock churches
3. Gondar
4.Erta Ale
5. Blue nile falls
6. Girls
7. Shashamane village

Laughing out loudly Applause smile


Most Kenyan 'tourists' are actually Chinese, Europeans workers who get in as tourist with 3 month VISA and have to keep on exiting to neighboring country every 3 months and back for another 3 month VISA. If you have worked for these Chinese companies that is how it is. This 'tourists' will not book hotel rooms but will live in shared apartments...Not sure if this changed after Matiangi cracked the whip on work permits
whiteowl
#2442 Posted : Saturday, January 18, 2020 9:29:51 AM
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kawi254 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
In 1990, Kenya with 814,000 tourists significantly led Dubai (450,000) and Ethiopia (64,000).

In 2018:
Kenya earns $1.55bn from 2m tourists
Dubai earns $18.7bn from 16m tourists
Ethiopia earns $7.4bn from 1.4m tourists


These stats tell us that we attract students and backpakers as tourists


What tourists attraction are there in Ethiopia (that beats Kenya), asking for a friend?


1.Lucy
2. lalibela sewn rock churches
3. Gondar
4.Erta Ale
5. Blue nile falls
6. Girls
7. Shashamane village

Laughing out loudly Applause smile


Most Kenyan 'tourists' are actually Chinese, Europeans workers who get in as tourist with 3 month VISA and have to keep on exiting to neighboring country every 3 months and back for another 3 month VISA. If you have worked for these Chinese companies that is how it is. This 'tourists' will not book hotel rooms but will live in shared apartments...Not sure if this changed after Matiangi cracked the whip on work permits


Netherlands has stopped actively promoting some of the destinations to avoid overcrowding. Like France tourist numbers have now surpassed their total population. If Kenya had over 40 million tourists in a year, we'd pay off the Chinese loans in one go.
Ericsson
#2443 Posted : Saturday, January 18, 2020 5:31:53 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,639
Location: NAIROBI
whiteowl wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
In 1990, Kenya with 814,000 tourists significantly led Dubai (450,000) and Ethiopia (64,000).

In 2018:
Kenya earns $1.55bn from 2m tourists
Dubai earns $18.7bn from 16m tourists
Ethiopia earns $7.4bn from 1.4m tourists


These stats tell us that we attract students and backpakers as tourists


What tourists attraction are there in Ethiopia (that beats Kenya), asking for a friend?


1.Lucy
2. lalibela sewn rock churches
3. Gondar
4.Erta Ale
5. Blue nile falls
6. Girls
7. Shashamane village

Laughing out loudly Applause smile


Most Kenyan 'tourists' are actually Chinese, Europeans workers who get in as tourist with 3 month VISA and have to keep on exiting to neighboring country every 3 months and back for another 3 month VISA. If you have worked for these Chinese companies that is how it is. This 'tourists' will not book hotel rooms but will live in shared apartments...Not sure if this changed after Matiangi cracked the whip on work permits


Netherlands has stopped actively promoting some of the destinations to avoid overcrowding. Like France tourist numbers have now surpassed their total population. If Kenya had over 40 million tourists in a year, we'd pay off the Chinese loans in one go.

Not payoff chinese loans but we'll imagine unfeasible projects for people to get 10%
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
murchr
#2444 Posted : Saturday, January 18, 2020 6:54:07 PM
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I have realized that West Africans have very little knowledge of East Africa, they have no wild animals, their beaches are dirty they have travel interest and if Kenya would make it affordable many would visit. There's a very big interest of Rwanda from the west. But KTB doesn't see money to eat from that side of Africa.

Hoteliers in Kenya make more effort to sell Kenya than KTB does. BBC sells Kenya more than anyone else in the world.


"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Lolest!
#2445 Posted : Saturday, January 18, 2020 9:52:59 PM
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We have already overborrowed on higher targetsSad

Daily Nation wrote:
Kenya has cut its crude oil export projections to 400,000 barrels per year between 2021 and 2023 in what signals a depressing assessment in the international market.

That forecast is lower than this year’s shipment target of 500,000. Petroleum Principal Secretary Andrew Kamau said the government will focus on field development and construction of a crude pipeline, hence the cut in export plans.

“The ministry projects to export some 400,000 barrels of crude annually for the Financial Year 2020/2021, 2021/2022 and 2022/2023. We are going to concentrate on the development of the oilfields and the pipeline,” Mr Kamau said on Thursday during the ongoing public hearings on 2020/21 sector budget proposals.
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Ericsson
#2446 Posted : Monday, January 20, 2020 5:02:51 PM
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https://www.businessdail...423698-9yecf7/index.html
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#2447 Posted : Monday, January 20, 2020 7:07:13 PM
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https://www.businessdail...423698-9yecf7/index.html
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Swenani
#2448 Posted : Wednesday, January 22, 2020 9:21:37 AM
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mtajua hamjui

Quote:
A reduction in headcount has pushed down pay-as-you-earn (PAYE) tax, putting the Treasury finances in a precarious position in the first half of fiscal year 2019/20.

As a result of the low collection, cumulative ordinary (mainly tax) revenue underperformed the target by Sh138.7 billion in the half-year period to December. The other poor performers were excise tax and value-added tax (VAT), which are directly connected to business activity.
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Ericsson
#2449 Posted : Wednesday, January 22, 2020 11:12:03 AM
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Swenani wrote:
mtajua hamjui

Quote:
A reduction in headcount has pushed down pay-as-you-earn (PAYE) tax, putting the Treasury finances in a precarious position in the first half of fiscal year 2019/20.

As a result of the low collection, cumulative ordinary (mainly tax) revenue underperformed the target by Sh138.7 billion in the half-year period to December. The other poor performers were excise tax and value-added tax (VAT), which are directly connected to business activity.



The three boys don't care.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Angelica _ann
#2450 Posted : Wednesday, January 22, 2020 12:02:26 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Swenani wrote:
mtajua hamjui

Quote:
A reduction in headcount has pushed down pay-as-you-earn (PAYE) tax, putting the Treasury finances in a precarious position in the first half of fiscal year 2019/20.

As a result of the low collection, cumulative ordinary (mainly tax) revenue underperformed the target by Sh138.7 billion in the half-year period to December. The other poor performers were excise tax and value-added tax (VAT), which are directly connected to business activity.



The three boys don't care.


Watu wako kwa BBI smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
maka
#2451 Posted : Wednesday, January 22, 2020 2:15:05 PM
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Location: Nairobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Swenani wrote:
mtajua hamjui

Quote:
A reduction in headcount has pushed down pay-as-you-earn (PAYE) tax, putting the Treasury finances in a precarious position in the first half of fiscal year 2019/20.

As a result of the low collection, cumulative ordinary (mainly tax) revenue underperformed the target by Sh138.7 billion in the half-year period to December. The other poor performers were excise tax and value-added tax (VAT), which are directly connected to business activity.



The three boys don't care.


Watu wako kwa BBI smile




@AA lakini explain to me ...Shida ya wakenya huwa nini? Why cant we elect proper leaders....
possunt quia posse videntur
Angelica _ann
#2452 Posted : Wednesday, January 22, 2020 3:14:59 PM
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maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Swenani wrote:
mtajua hamjui

Quote:
A reduction in headcount has pushed down pay-as-you-earn (PAYE) tax, putting the Treasury finances in a precarious position in the first half of fiscal year 2019/20.

As a result of the low collection, cumulative ordinary (mainly tax) revenue underperformed the target by Sh138.7 billion in the half-year period to December. The other poor performers were excise tax and value-added tax (VAT), which are directly connected to business activity.



The three boys don't care.


Watu wako kwa BBI smile




@AA lakini explain to me ...Shida ya wakenya huwa nini? Why cant we elect proper leaders....


I gave up on Kenyan leadership kitambo, nowadays i am looking out for self.

Lakini UMK (& Ruto) has really wiped out the gains we had made with Kibaki kabisa. So sad.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
murchr
#2453 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2020 12:03:28 AM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
Ericsson
#2454 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2020 10:50:57 AM
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Posts: 10,639
Location: NAIROBI
murchr wrote:


KQ debt
East Africa Portland Cement
TARDA
KBC
Kenya Meat Commission
Kenya Railways
Kenyatta University
Athi Water works development agency
Coast water works development agency
Rift Valley water works development agency
Lake Victoria water works development agency
KETRACO
Geothermal Development Corporation
Just to mention a few are some of the parastatals with debt and unable to pay
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
maka
#2455 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2020 11:01:56 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
murchr wrote:


KQ debt
East Africa Portland Cement
TARDA
KBC
Kenya Meat Commission
Kenya Railways
Kenyatta University
Athi Water works development agency
Coast water works development agency
Rift Valley water works development agency
Lake Victoria water works development agency
KETRACO
Geothermal Development Corporation
Just to mention a few are some of the parastatals with debt and unable to pay


Yep....
possunt quia posse videntur
Ericsson
#2456 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2020 11:33:40 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
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https://www.businessdail...28032-9jgfn7z/index.html
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
whiteowl
#2457 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2020 11:25:15 PM
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Joined: 4/16/2014
Posts: 1,420
Location: Bohemian Grove
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Swenani wrote:
mtajua hamjui

Quote:
A reduction in headcount has pushed down pay-as-you-earn (PAYE) tax, putting the Treasury finances in a precarious position in the first half of fiscal year 2019/20.

As a result of the low collection, cumulative ordinary (mainly tax) revenue underperformed the target by Sh138.7 billion in the half-year period to December. The other poor performers were excise tax and value-added tax (VAT), which are directly connected to business activity.



The three boys don't care.


Watu wako kwa BBI smile




@AA lakini explain to me ...Shida ya wakenya huwa nini? Why cant we elect proper leaders....


I gave up on Kenyan leadership kitambo, nowadays i am looking out for self.

Lakini UMK (& Ruto) has really wiped out the gains we had made with Kibaki kabisa. So sad.


This is a 3rd world country and our biggest problem is lack of clean, affordable water for drinking/farming but people have other bs priorities like huduma number, bbi and lots of white elephants.
Ericsson
#2458 Posted : Friday, January 24, 2020 4:34:11 PM
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Location: NAIROBI
Kenya should consider partnerships with the private sector to help fund government spending because it doesn’t have much room to increase debt, says the nation’s central bank governor
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
sparkly
#2459 Posted : Sunday, January 26, 2020 4:28:11 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Ericsson wrote:
Kenya should consider partnerships with the private sector to help fund government spending because it doesn’t have much room to increase debt, says the nation’s central bank governor


Public Private Partnership framework is in place but no goodwill to run PPP projects. People in Serikal just want projects where they can eat.
Life is short. Live passionately.
newfarer
#2460 Posted : Wednesday, January 29, 2020 4:14:30 PM
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Joined: 3/19/2010
Posts: 3,503
Location: Uganda
2020 mambo bad

https://www.kenyans.co.k...usdzeGXog3HYPINf0F4LuzQ


https://www.businessdail...5yk9iOLTr5PKZPOIwGEC99U


Add Yana ,SouthernSun Mayfair hotel,Jacaranda and tell me if we should be discussing BBI or how to fix the dying economy and jobs
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