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Tell your friend that only fools dont change their mind. Happy new year "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Sansa wrote:omega wrote:
How did he get Kenyan passport, before the new constitution in 2010, while he was still holding a Canadian passport, and the constitution did not allow dual citizenship then?
There is even a procedure to be followed to regain dual citizenship if one had another citizenship before 2010.
How did he get a Kenyan passport? Illegaly. There was a story of how he obtained it back in 2009 when he was an adviser for RAO. I think you can search and find it. That is the procedure he does not want to follow. Kajwang' the Minister of Immigration being the chief immigration officer issued him with a valid passport of the republic of Kenya. The govt of Kenya later revoked it and the issue was challenged in court and the court ruled in favor of Miguna and directed that he be issued with a passport - They should give it back the same way they took it away. Nonetheless whenever you are leaving a country esp the 1st world, you scan your passport to put it in record that you are travelling and every port of entry scans or stamps (as is normal for 3rd world countries) your document of travel. Miguna has such a document - why cant he get in using it then deal with the passport issue later? Its not like he's travelling without any documentation. Hii serikali ime chukua watu kuwa wajinga sana 1st world ,3rd world...I thought we left those terms in last century! You thought wrong By the way, the GOK taxpayers will eventually compensate Miguna very well due to these people who think with their behinds "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:Tell your friend that only fools dont change their mind. Happy new year Unless all these "fools" are symbiotic twins, I will defer to my question that remains unanswered. Exactly how much do I have to pay to make these "fools" change their minds? Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:Tell your friend that only fools dont change their mind. Happy new year Unless all these "fools" are symbiotic twins, I will defer to my question that remains unanswered. Exactly how much do I have to pay to make these "fools" change their minds? FOOLS DONT CHANGE THEIR MINDS - ala! "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:Sansa wrote:omega wrote:
How did he get Kenyan passport, before the new constitution in 2010, while he was still holding a Canadian passport, and the constitution did not allow dual citizenship then?
There is even a procedure to be followed to regain dual citizenship if one had another citizenship before 2010.
How did he get a Kenyan passport? Illegaly. There was a story of how he obtained it back in 2009 when he was an adviser for RAO. I think you can search and find it. That is the procedure he does not want to follow. Kajwang' the Minister of Immigration being the chief immigration officer issued him with a valid passport of the republic of Kenya. The govt of Kenya later revoked it and the issue was challenged in court and the court ruled in favor of Miguna and directed that he be issued with a passport - They should give it back the same way they took it away. Nonetheless whenever you are leaving a country esp the 1st world, you scan your passport to put it in record that you are travelling and every port of entry scans or stamps (as is normal for 3rd world countries) your document of travel. Miguna has such a document - why cant he get in using it then deal with the passport issue later? Its not like he's travelling without any documentation. Hii serikali ime chukua watu kuwa wajinga sana How did Kajwang issue a passport to a Canadian citizen. Did he apply to regain his Kenyan citizenship at that time? Prior to the new constitution, you lost your Kenyan citizenship if you obtained another one. Isn't that what the constitution said?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:Tell your friend that only fools dont change their mind. Happy new year Unless all these "fools" are symbiotic twins, I will defer to my question that remains unanswered. Exactly how much do I have to pay to make these "fools" change their minds? FOOLS DONT CHANGE THEIR MINDS - ala! Wewe tuambie bei jameni. Ama ukijoin tanga tanga Miguna anaokoka? Hata bei ya jioni. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Sansa wrote:murchr wrote:Sansa wrote:omega wrote:
How did he get Kenyan passport, before the new constitution in 2010, while he was still holding a Canadian passport, and the constitution did not allow dual citizenship then?
There is even a procedure to be followed to regain dual citizenship if one had another citizenship before 2010.
How did he get a Kenyan passport? Illegaly. There was a story of how he obtained it back in 2009 when he was an adviser for RAO. I think you can search and find it. That is the procedure he does not want to follow. Kajwang' the Minister of Immigration being the chief immigration officer issued him with a valid passport of the republic of Kenya. The govt of Kenya later revoked it and the issue was challenged in court and the court ruled in favor of Miguna and directed that he be issued with a passport - They should give it back the same way they took it away. Nonetheless whenever you are leaving a country esp the 1st world, you scan your passport to put it in record that you are travelling and every port of entry scans or stamps (as is normal for 3rd world countries) your document of travel. Miguna has such a document - why cant he get in using it then deal with the passport issue later? Its not like he's travelling without any documentation. Hii serikali ime chukua watu kuwa wajinga sana How did Kajwang issue a passport to a Canadian citizen. Did he apply to regain his Kenyan citizenship at that time? Prior to the new constitution, you lost your Kenyan citizenship if you obtained another one. Isn't that what the constitution said? Ask Kajwang' or the courts. But the matter was already litigated "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Sansa wrote:murchr wrote:Sansa wrote:omega wrote:
How did he get Kenyan passport, before the new constitution in 2010, while he was still holding a Canadian passport, and the constitution did not allow dual citizenship then?
There is even a procedure to be followed to regain dual citizenship if one had another citizenship before 2010.
How did he get a Kenyan passport? Illegaly. There was a story of how he obtained it back in 2009 when he was an adviser for RAO. I think you can search and find it. That is the procedure he does not want to follow. Kajwang' the Minister of Immigration being the chief immigration officer issued him with a valid passport of the republic of Kenya. The govt of Kenya later revoked it and the issue was challenged in court and the court ruled in favor of Miguna and directed that he be issued with a passport - They should give it back the same way they took it away. Nonetheless whenever you are leaving a country esp the 1st world, you scan your passport to put it in record that you are travelling and every port of entry scans or stamps (as is normal for 3rd world countries) your document of travel. Miguna has such a document - why cant he get in using it then deal with the passport issue later? Its not like he's travelling without any documentation. Hii serikali ime chukua watu kuwa wajinga sana How did Kajwang issue a passport to a Canadian citizen. Did he apply to regain his Kenyan citizenship at that time? Prior to the new constitution, you lost your Kenyan citizenship if you obtained another one. Isn't that what the constitution said? This maybe the reason the dude refused to produce his Canadian passport for stamping at JKIA and is refusing to apply for a new passport and regularize his dual citizenship, because doing so could be an (indirect) admission of the illegality committed with Kajwang in 2009.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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omega wrote:Sansa wrote:murchr wrote:Sansa wrote:omega wrote:
How did he get Kenyan passport, before the new constitution in 2010, while he was still holding a Canadian passport, and the constitution did not allow dual citizenship then?
There is even a procedure to be followed to regain dual citizenship if one had another citizenship before 2010.
How did he get a Kenyan passport? Illegaly. There was a story of how he obtained it back in 2009 when he was an adviser for RAO. I think you can search and find it. That is the procedure he does not want to follow. Kajwang' the Minister of Immigration being the chief immigration officer issued him with a valid passport of the republic of Kenya. The govt of Kenya later revoked it and the issue was challenged in court and the court ruled in favor of Miguna and directed that he be issued with a passport - They should give it back the same way they took it away. Nonetheless whenever you are leaving a country esp the 1st world, you scan your passport to put it in record that you are travelling and every port of entry scans or stamps (as is normal for 3rd world countries) your document of travel. Miguna has such a document - why cant he get in using it then deal with the passport issue later? Its not like he's travelling without any documentation. Hii serikali ime chukua watu kuwa wajinga sana How did Kajwang issue a passport to a Canadian citizen. Did he apply to regain his Kenyan citizenship at that time? Prior to the new constitution, you lost your Kenyan citizenship if you obtained another one. Isn't that what the constitution said? This maybe the reason the dude refused to produce his Canadian passport for stamping at JKIA and is refusing to apply for a new passport and regularize his dual citizenship, because doing so could be an (indirect) admission of the illegality committed with Kajwang in 2009. The goon has no valid reason why he cannot produce his travel documents,he just wants to have his way.He thinks he can bully everybody.Not sure what he is trying to prove. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Bigchick wrote:omega wrote:Sansa wrote:murchr wrote:Sansa wrote:omega wrote:
How did he get Kenyan passport, before the new constitution in 2010, while he was still holding a Canadian passport, and the constitution did not allow dual citizenship then?
There is even a procedure to be followed to regain dual citizenship if one had another citizenship before 2010.
How did he get a Kenyan passport? Illegaly. There was a story of how he obtained it back in 2009 when he was an adviser for RAO. I think you can search and find it. That is the procedure he does not want to follow. Kajwang' the Minister of Immigration being the chief immigration officer issued him with a valid passport of the republic of Kenya. The govt of Kenya later revoked it and the issue was challenged in court and the court ruled in favor of Miguna and directed that he be issued with a passport - They should give it back the same way they took it away. Nonetheless whenever you are leaving a country esp the 1st world, you scan your passport to put it in record that you are travelling and every port of entry scans or stamps (as is normal for 3rd world countries) your document of travel. Miguna has such a document - why cant he get in using it then deal with the passport issue later? Its not like he's travelling without any documentation. Hii serikali ime chukua watu kuwa wajinga sana How did Kajwang issue a passport to a Canadian citizen. Did he apply to regain his Kenyan citizenship at that time? Prior to the new constitution, you lost your Kenyan citizenship if you obtained another one. Isn't that what the constitution said? This maybe the reason the dude refused to produce his Canadian passport for stamping at JKIA and is refusing to apply for a new passport and regularize his dual citizenship, because doing so could be an (indirect) admission of the illegality committed with Kajwang in 2009. The goon has no valid reason why he cannot produce his travel documents,he just wants to have his way.He thinks he can bully everybody.Not sure what he is trying to prove. He has a valid canadian passport that he's using to travel why cant he use that? If you are abroad and your passport expires, the embassy sends the new passport to you, you dont have to travel to the embassy to collect it. The judgement was explicit.....facilitate Miguna with a passport....GOK should have dont that or issue one to him on arrival to Kenya. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 344
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murchr wrote:Bigchick wrote:omega wrote:Sansa wrote:murchr wrote:Sansa wrote:omega wrote:
How did he get Kenyan passport, before the new constitution in 2010, while he was still holding a Canadian passport, and the constitution did not allow dual citizenship then?
There is even a procedure to be followed to regain dual citizenship if one had another citizenship before 2010.
How did he get a Kenyan passport? Illegaly. There was a story of how he obtained it back in 2009 when he was an adviser for RAO. I think you can search and find it. That is the procedure he does not want to follow. Kajwang' the Minister of Immigration being the chief immigration officer issued him with a valid passport of the republic of Kenya. The govt of Kenya later revoked it and the issue was challenged in court and the court ruled in favor of Miguna and directed that he be issued with a passport - They should give it back the same way they took it away. Nonetheless whenever you are leaving a country esp the 1st world, you scan your passport to put it in record that you are travelling and every port of entry scans or stamps (as is normal for 3rd world countries) your document of travel. Miguna has such a document - why cant he get in using it then deal with the passport issue later? Its not like he's travelling without any documentation. Hii serikali ime chukua watu kuwa wajinga sana How did Kajwang issue a passport to a Canadian citizen. Did he apply to regain his Kenyan citizenship at that time? Prior to the new constitution, you lost your Kenyan citizenship if you obtained another one. Isn't that what the constitution said? This maybe the reason the dude refused to produce his Canadian passport for stamping at JKIA and is refusing to apply for a new passport and regularize his dual citizenship, because doing so could be an (indirect) admission of the illegality committed with Kajwang in 2009. The goon has no valid reason why he cannot produce his travel documents,he just wants to have his way.He thinks he can bully everybody.Not sure what he is trying to prove. He has a valid canadian passport that he's using to travel why cant he use that? If you are abroad and your passport expires, the embassy sends the new passport to you, you dont have to travel to the embassy to collect it. The judgement was explicit.....facilitate Miguna with a passport....GOK should have dont that or issue one to him on arrival to Kenya. Well, that old passport has expired (or so we are told) new passports require biometrics at an embassy and he refuses to go to the embassy saying he will be murdered (like he is that important). The man cannot be helped.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Sansa wrote:murchr wrote:Bigchick wrote:omega wrote:Sansa wrote:murchr wrote:Sansa wrote:omega wrote:
How did he get Kenyan passport, before the new constitution in 2010, while he was still holding a Canadian passport, and the constitution did not allow dual citizenship then?
There is even a procedure to be followed to regain dual citizenship if one had another citizenship before 2010.
How did he get a Kenyan passport? Illegaly. There was a story of how he obtained it back in 2009 when he was an adviser for RAO. I think you can search and find it. That is the procedure he does not want to follow. Kajwang' the Minister of Immigration being the chief immigration officer issued him with a valid passport of the republic of Kenya. The govt of Kenya later revoked it and the issue was challenged in court and the court ruled in favor of Miguna and directed that he be issued with a passport - They should give it back the same way they took it away. Nonetheless whenever you are leaving a country esp the 1st world, you scan your passport to put it in record that you are travelling and every port of entry scans or stamps (as is normal for 3rd world countries) your document of travel. Miguna has such a document - why cant he get in using it then deal with the passport issue later? Its not like he's travelling without any documentation. Hii serikali ime chukua watu kuwa wajinga sana How did Kajwang issue a passport to a Canadian citizen. Did he apply to regain his Kenyan citizenship at that time? Prior to the new constitution, you lost your Kenyan citizenship if you obtained another one. Isn't that what the constitution said? This maybe the reason the dude refused to produce his Canadian passport for stamping at JKIA and is refusing to apply for a new passport and regularize his dual citizenship, because doing so could be an (indirect) admission of the illegality committed with Kajwang in 2009. The goon has no valid reason why he cannot produce his travel documents,he just wants to have his way.He thinks he can bully everybody.Not sure what he is trying to prove. He has a valid canadian passport that he's using to travel why cant he use that? If you are abroad and your passport expires, the embassy sends the new passport to you, you dont have to travel to the embassy to collect it. The judgement was explicit.....facilitate Miguna with a passport....GOK should have dont that or issue one to him on arrival to Kenya. Well, that old passport has expired (or so we are told) new passports require biometrics at an embassy and he refuses to go to the embassy saying he will be murdered (like he is that important). The man cannot be helped. The Canadian passport is very valid. He used it to fly out of Canada, you cannot enter a plane with an expired passport, kwani munafikiria watu ni wajinga aje? The red alert issued by the Kenyan govt should be taken off so that he can proceed with his journey from Europe. The Kenyan govt can frustrate him once he arrives at JKIA "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:Sansa wrote:murchr wrote:Bigchick wrote:omega wrote:Sansa wrote:murchr wrote:Sansa wrote:omega wrote:
How did he get Kenyan passport, before the new constitution in 2010, while he was still holding a Canadian passport, and the constitution did not allow dual citizenship then?
There is even a procedure to be followed to regain dual citizenship if one had another citizenship before 2010.
How did he get a Kenyan passport? Illegaly. There was a story of how he obtained it back in 2009 when he was an adviser for RAO. I think you can search and find it. That is the procedure he does not want to follow. Kajwang' the Minister of Immigration being the chief immigration officer issued him with a valid passport of the republic of Kenya. The govt of Kenya later revoked it and the issue was challenged in court and the court ruled in favor of Miguna and directed that he be issued with a passport - They should give it back the same way they took it away. Nonetheless whenever you are leaving a country esp the 1st world, you scan your passport to put it in record that you are travelling and every port of entry scans or stamps (as is normal for 3rd world countries) your document of travel. Miguna has such a document - why cant he get in using it then deal with the passport issue later? Its not like he's travelling without any documentation. Hii serikali ime chukua watu kuwa wajinga sana How did Kajwang issue a passport to a Canadian citizen. Did he apply to regain his Kenyan citizenship at that time? Prior to the new constitution, you lost your Kenyan citizenship if you obtained another one. Isn't that what the constitution said? This maybe the reason the dude refused to produce his Canadian passport for stamping at JKIA and is refusing to apply for a new passport and regularize his dual citizenship, because doing so could be an (indirect) admission of the illegality committed with Kajwang in 2009. The goon has no valid reason why he cannot produce his travel documents,he just wants to have his way.He thinks he can bully everybody.Not sure what he is trying to prove. He has a valid canadian passport that he's using to travel why cant he use that? If you are abroad and your passport expires, the embassy sends the new passport to you, you dont have to travel to the embassy to collect it. The judgement was explicit.....facilitate Miguna with a passport....GOK should have dont that or issue one to him on arrival to Kenya. Well, that old passport has expired (or so we are told) new passports require biometrics at an embassy and he refuses to go to the embassy saying he will be murdered (like he is that important). The man cannot be helped. The Canadian passport is very valid. He used it to fly out of Canada, you cannot enter a plane with an expired passport, kwani munafikiria watu ni wajinga aje? The red alert issued by the Kenyan govt should be taken off so that he can proceed with his journey from Europe. The Kenyan govt can frustrate him once he arrives at JKIA If he is travelling on a canadian passprt then he needs a kenyan visa which he has refused to apply for since he says he is a kenyan citizen and doesnt need one. Also since he has this red alert thing, I think he is supposed to get the kenyan passport before he turns up at JKIA or whichever kenyan airport he chooses to go to.
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Wacha Miguna aone Kenya kwa Viusasa until he humbles himself & follows the law. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Why can't he fly to Tanzania or UG and then to Kenya through the many panya routes? "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Gathige wrote:Why can't he fly to Tanzania or UG and then to Kenya through the many panya routes? Kenya has blocked him from flying to Africa "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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murchr wrote:Gathige wrote:Why can't he fly to Tanzania or UG and then to Kenya through the many panya routes? Kenya has blocked him from flying to Africa The passport issue is just a diversion. Miguna won't step in Africa mpaka baba aseme. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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Gathige wrote:Why can't he fly to Tanzania or UG and then to Kenya through the many panya routes? Do you use panya routes to visit your ancestral home ushago? Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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