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Wakanyugi
#141 Posted : Tuesday, December 03, 2019 4:31:22 PM
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Tokyo wrote:
If the gutter is to be trusted,Uhuru and Raila compromise candidate Matiangi v/s Ruto. It would be an epic battle.


I would certainly vote for Matiangi but I doubt he could beat Ruto. Ruto has been rehearsing for the top job for over ten years now and has the war-chest to fight for it.

Finally lame duck Uhurus endorsement is likely to become a poisoned chalice as we have seen before.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Amores
#142 Posted : Tuesday, December 03, 2019 9:00:07 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
If the gutter is to be trusted,Uhuru and Raila compromise candidate Matiangi v/s Ruto. It would be an epic battle.


Campaign money-wise, Ruto has an upper hand/plus already level of penetration.

Matiangi will not need to use his money, dynasties will support him to capture the seat.
I am happy
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Amores
#143 Posted : Tuesday, December 03, 2019 9:06:06 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
If the gutter is to be trusted,Uhuru and Raila compromise candidate Matiangi v/s Ruto. It would be an epic battle.


I would certainly vote for Matiangi but I doubt he could beat Ruto. Ruto has been rehearsing for the top job for over ten years now and has the war-chest to fight for it.

Finally lame duck Uhurus endorsement is likely to become a poisoned chalice as we have seen before.



I think if dynasties field their candidate, its an uphill battle for Mbwana DP. It depends on how he plays his cards from now going forward.

Matiangi for me is a no. He has shown ako same league na kina muturi, using their position to oppress- typical of all Kenyans when in power.
I am happy
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kaka2za
#144 Posted : Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:01:24 PM
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Amores wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
If the gutter is to be trusted,Uhuru and Raila compromise candidate Matiangi v/s Ruto. It would be an epic battle.


I would certainly vote for Matiangi but I doubt he could beat Ruto. Ruto has been rehearsing for the top job for over ten years now and has the war-chest to fight for it.

Finally lame duck Uhurus endorsement is likely to become a poisoned chalice as we have seen before.



I think if dynasties field their candidate, its an uphill battle for Mbwana DP. It depends on how he plays his cards from now going forward.

Matiangi for me is a no. He has shown ako same league na kina muturi, using their position to oppress- typical of all Kenyans when in power.


Matiangi=Magufuli!
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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limanika
#145 Posted : Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:09:52 PM
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Macang'i any day
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washiku
#146 Posted : Tuesday, December 03, 2019 11:51:12 PM
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The biggest and most surprising BBI outcome is Alma supporting Uhuru.

The rest of it is Hogwash to say the least. I would someone to explain to me what of all the recommendations required a report for Uhuru to implement or what in that report is a game changer that Uhuru will use to make Kenya great again that he can't do now, today with the current powers bestowed unto him.
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Wakanyugi
#147 Posted : Wednesday, December 04, 2019 12:03:44 AM
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washiku wrote:
The biggest and most surprising BBI outcome is Alma supporting Uhuru.

The rest of it is Hogwash to say the least. I would someone to explain to me what of all the recommendations required a report for Uhuru to implement or what in that report is a game changer that Uhuru will use to make Kenya great again that he can't do now, today with the current powers bestowed unto him.


It is not rocket science, my brother. Here is a thought experiment:

Say you want to pay someone (s) 10 billion shillings without attracting the wrong kind of attention. The person claims his team spent that much in a certain election and he wants to be paid back, or else....

Say you are a lame duck President on his last term. All you want is an easy run and maybe a legacy. And 10B is pocket change, seeing as the major infrastructure projects you and your deputy are able to swing and skim off.

How would you go about it?

"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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madollar
#148 Posted : Wednesday, December 04, 2019 3:42:19 AM
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Amores wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
If the gutter is to be trusted,Uhuru and Raila compromise candidate Matiangi v/s Ruto. It would be an epic battle.


I would certainly vote for Matiangi but I doubt he could beat Ruto. Ruto has been rehearsing for the top job for over ten years now and has the war-chest to fight for it.

Finally lame duck Uhurus endorsement is likely to become a poisoned chalice as we have seen before.



I think if dynasties field their candidate, its an uphill battle for Mbwana DP. It depends on how he plays his cards from now going forward.

Matiangi for me is a no. He has shown ako same league na kina muturi, using their position to oppress- typical of all Kenyans when in power.

Uhuru was a dynasties candidate in 02 mudavadi was also a non starter despite being supported by the mois and kibakis inners circle in 2013
Lakini hapa kuna poker game being played by uhuru and raila involving BBI and matiangi ruto should tread carefully
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alma1
#149 Posted : Wednesday, December 04, 2019 6:06:26 AM
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washiku wrote:
The biggest and most surprising BBI outcome is Alma supporting Uhuru.

The rest of it is Hogwash to say the least. I would someone to explain to me what of all the recommendations required a report for Uhuru to implement or what in that report is a game changer that Uhuru will use to make Kenya great again that he can't do now, today with the current powers bestowed unto him.


ohh come on my brasa.

Even Ruto and Moses Kuria support this BBI. They said they will pass it in 15 minutes in parliament.

Alma is just happy to see that guy squirming like the lilo snake in the grass that he is.

Kenya will be great again when we get rid of people who have no problem stealing from Kimwarer and then taking the money to church.

I think that will be a great thing. And I support.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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newfarer
#150 Posted : Wednesday, December 04, 2019 6:54:24 AM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
washiku wrote:
The biggest and most surprising BBI outcome is Alma supporting Uhuru.

The rest of it is Hogwash to say the least. I would someone to explain to me what of all the recommendations required a report for Uhuru to implement or what in that report is a game changer that Uhuru will use to make Kenya great again that he can't do now, today with the current powers bestowed unto him.


It is not rocket science, my brother. Here is a thought experiment:

Say you want to pay someone (s) 10 billion shillings without attracting the wrong kind of attention. The person claims his team spent that much in a certain election and he wants to be paid back, or else....

Say you are a lame duck President on his last term. All you want is an easy run and maybe a legacy. And 10B is pocket change, seeing as the major infrastructure projects you and your deputy are able to swing and skim off.

How would you go about it?

but there was 6 billions to be eaten in hujuma namba kwani hii deni ya hand cheque Ni ya how much tujuange tujipange
punda amecheka
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