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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/18/2014 Posts: 1,127
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Ericsson wrote:How State House Order For Parastatals To Surrender Money To Treasury Will Cripple Economy – David Ndii In August this year, State corporations were ordered to surrender cash balances in their bank accounts to the treasury.
The order was meant to reduce government’s cost of borrowing which has ballooned in the last six years during the reign of President Uhuru Kenyatta.
However, most of the money could have been used to pay loans which matured between July and October, with the Treasury indicating that it used at least Ksh276.17 billion to repay maturing loans, a 41.55 percent jump from Ksh195.11 billion in the previous four months. Debt repayments were the second single largest government spend after recurrent expenses such as salaries, allowances and administrative expenses which gobbled up nearly Ksh306.53 billion.
According to economist David Ndii, the act of government drawing monies from parastatals could adversely affect the economy, and service delivery.
“While the memo suggests that some of this money will settle pending bills, far from solving the problem, it has now transferred it to parastatals whose suppliers will now be at the mercy of the exchequer. Expect some parastatals to default on their suppliers in coming days,” says Ndii.
If the money goes to pay foreign debts, Ndii predicts that there will be little circulation of money in the country, which is important for the growth of any economy. “Because the key driver of the government’s financial crisis is foreign debt, part of the money confiscated from parastatals is going to pay the foreign debt. Instead of circulating in the economy it is going to China. Another body blow to an already battered economy,” he adds.
Treasury bills (T-bills) maturities between July and September stood at Ksh346.9 billion, with another Ksh222.5 billion due for payment between October and December.
“The confiscation of t-bills/bonds is for all intents of purposes, a default action. It does not matter that these are state corporations, these debt instruments backed by law, and the government/debtor has suspended law. It’s a case of might is right, impunity,” says Ndii. “When it gets more desperate as it will, what will stop it doing the same to other vulnerable investors eg. public pension funds? By resorting to such a draconian action, it has exposed that its more distressed than its been letting on. Expect investors to take note.” Kenya’s public debt surged closer to Ksh6 trillion at the end of June after Treasury borrowed an additional Ksh770 billion in 12 months.
Normally, the Treasury banks with the Central Bank of Kenya (CBK) hence the move will see large chunks of money withdrawn from the commercial banks. This regime is really a piece of work. At no point so far has GoK shown signs of changing course despite the numerous and obvious red flags along their ruinous path. The only buck stop here appears to be social unrest...till then it's full throttle in the wrong direction. The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/18/2014 Posts: 1,127
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rwitre wrote:tandich wrote:How does one immunise their investments, even if partially, from the impending gloom? 3 options, based on risk appetite: Guaranteed safety: Buy gold. Safety without liquidity: Buy land Liquidity with risk: Buy bitcoin Don't be too sure on real estate, alot of pain awaits. I'm bearish both gold and bitcoin in the short term. The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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It is getting clearer that Kenya has more investors than entrepreneurs. If we look at the statistics we find over 80% of businesses being informal. Stats by KNBS indicate that most informal businesses are in retailing. Other formal businesses are replications of already existing businesses.
On the other hand, the Entrepreneurship classes offered to students are not about the nuances of Baptiste Say and other thinkers who have elaborated on enterpreneurship. Instead it's note about how to go about opening a business.
If these statements are true, then we have no way out except more debt and conflict.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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BOC Kenya Plc - Profit Warning Announcement. "Supply to several PUBLIC SECTOR customers with invoices that have remained unpaid for periods significantly above the allowed credit period..led to additional DOUBTFUL DEBT provisions." Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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Word on the street is that there are at least 3 banks under CBK watch for insider lending that breaches set regulations. Any one who knows the banks that might collapse?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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whiteowl wrote:Word on the street is that there are at least 3 banks under CBK watch for insider lending that breaches set regulations. Any one who knows the banks that might collapse? A cheque will be delivered and the story will die Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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MugundaMan wrote: Dont run like a coward bradza. - you didnt have to say it, you have implied that you HATE chinese imports. - oooo imports are from china - oooo no local companies because of Chinese companies - oooo the import export ratio favours China, My braddah we CANNOT develop without China's expertise and imports. Look at your friend Ndii. Went alllllll the way to Oxford and instead of bringing home technology to build factories and cars from Britain he came back with miwani ya kamba tu na stori mingi kwa gazeti worth zero.BURE GHABISA!!!! Oxford Ndii and his miwani ya kamba should get laid awache ku troll HE Uhuru and his family huko twirrer. Blah blah blah mingi hatutaki kusikia Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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China Aerospace Construction Group (CACG) will construct the 40 km, 400kV Isinya-konza power transmission line. China Exim Bank will fund the project that is set for completion within 30 months. The power project includes the construction of four 250km high voltage power transmission and distribution lines. In addition, the project will see the expansion of eight power transformation stations. The new transmission and distribution line will power Konza and the surrounding counties such as Machakos, Kajiado, and Makueni. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,589
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tandich wrote:How does one immunise their investments, even if partially, from the impending gloom? The malaise can go on for a long time. Haiti has been at it for 200 years, Argentina has been on burst burst cycles for 50+ years. The last time GoK did a similar binge on infrastructure was around 1920-1927. The economy never recovered from the debt binge until the 2nd world war. It took the Swynnerton Plan to fundamentally restructure the economy to get things going again. In between Happy valley manenos happened which was the equivalent of current parte after parte. Bro Enjoy life, plan for retirement-investments wachia wajukuu Everything ultimately rises and falls on leadership. Britain was on the malaise in 1960's and 1970's till Margaret Thatcher came and took the hard bold decisions. If you look at the current kenyan leadership no one has the brains or balls to get us out of the quagmire. So for now let's continue with parte after parte
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/2/2018 Posts: 267
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wukan wrote:tandich wrote:How does one immunise their investments, even if partially, from the impending gloom? The malaise can go on for a long time. Haiti has been at it for 200 years, Argentina has been on burst burst cycles for 50+ years. The last time GoK did a similar binge on infrastructure was around 1920-1927. The economy never recovered from the debt binge until the 2nd world war. It took the Swynnerton Plan to fundamentally restructure the economy to get things going again. In between Happy valley manenos happened which was the equivalent of current parte after parte. Bro Enjoy life, plan for retirement-investments wachia wajukuu Everything ultimately rises and falls on leadership. Britain was on the malaise in 1960's and 1970's till Margaret Thatcher came and took the hard bold decisions. If you look at the current kenyan leadership no one has the brains or balls to get us out of the quagmire. So for now let's continue with parte after parte I like the history! Well said.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/26/2008 Posts: 384
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wukan wrote:tandich wrote:How does one immunise their investments, even if partially, from the impending gloom? The malaise can go on for a long time. Haiti has been at it for 200 years, Argentina has been on burst burst cycles for 50+ years. The last time GoK did a similar binge on infrastructure was around 1920-1927. The economy never recovered from the debt binge until the 2nd world war. It took the Swynnerton Plan to fundamentally restructure the economy to get things going again. In between Happy valley manenos happened which was the equivalent of current parte after parte. Bro Enjoy life, plan for retirement-investments wachia wajukuu Everything ultimately rises and falls on leadership. Britain was on the malaise in 1960's and 1970's till Margaret Thatcher came and took the hard bold decisions. If you look at the current kenyan leadership no one has the brains or balls to get us out of the quagmire. So for now let's continue with parte after parte You sure are a very knowledgeable person...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,220 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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xtina wrote:wukan wrote:tandich wrote:How does one immunise their investments, even if partially, from the impending gloom? The malaise can go on for a long time. Haiti has been at it for 200 years, Argentina has been on burst burst cycles for 50+ years. The last time GoK did a similar binge on infrastructure was around 1920-1927. The economy never recovered from the debt binge until the 2nd world war. It took the Swynnerton Plan to fundamentally restructure the economy to get things going again. In between Happy valley manenos happened which was the equivalent of current parte after parte. Bro Enjoy life, plan for retirement-investments wachia wajukuu Everything ultimately rises and falls on leadership. Britain was on the malaise in 1960's and 1970's till Margaret Thatcher came and took the hard bold decisions. If you look at the current kenyan leadership no one has the brains or balls to get us out of the quagmire. So for now let's continue with parte after parte You sure are a very knowledgeable person... True that. @Wukan has just taken us back to events preceding the Great depression of the late 20s all the way to our current leadership. Funny enough, the bible, in the old testament, has chronicles of Kings. the one i like the most is when the Kingship moved to a young person, who refused to listen to the counsel of the aged (like Mzee Kibaki in matters economics) and instead listened to his fellow agemates. You can imagine the kind of advice he would get. By the way, kibaki had an economic counsel in place, during his reign. @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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I would not call our present Government "Leadership". It's actually far from it. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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AAK SAYS NO TO THE EXPRESSWAY After many consultations & presentations, including one from KeNHA; AAK - whose members are planners, architects, QS, Engineers, project managers, landscape arch, etc. have made the informed decision to petition KeNHA to stop the project. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2015 Posts: 467 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:AAK SAYS NO TO THE EXPRESSWAY After many consultations & presentations, including one from KeNHA; AAK - whose members are planners, architects, QS, Engineers, project managers, landscape arch, etc. have made the informed decision to petition KeNHA to stop the project. When they [AAK] attended the KeNHA meeting the Public Participation check box was ticked. This Govt listens to nobody and will bulldoze it's way through.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/18/2014 Posts: 1,127
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wukan wrote:tandich wrote:How does one immunise their investments, even if partially, from the impending gloom? The malaise can go on for a long time. Haiti has been at it for 200 years, Argentina has been on burst burst cycles for 50+ years. The last time GoK did a similar binge on infrastructure was around 1920-1927. The economy never recovered from the debt binge until the 2nd world war. It took the Swynnerton Plan to fundamentally restructure the economy to get things going again. In between Happy valley manenos happened which was the equivalent of current parte after parte. Bro Enjoy life, plan for retirement-investments wachia wajukuu Everything ultimately rises and falls on leadership. Britain was on the malaise in 1960's and 1970's till Margaret Thatcher came and took the hard bold decisions. If you look at the current kenyan leadership no one has the brains or balls to get us out of the quagmire. So for now let's continue with parte after parte I see you are on a mission to kill the perma-optimists here who keep hoping and praying - but mostly praying - for some kind of economic miracle to surmount the malaise. I partly disagree on the point of everything hinging on leadership and by extension politics. The social and economic variables always move way ahead of the political situation prevailing at any one point. Politics is a therefore a consequence not necessarily the determinant. For example, that is why despite the rapprochement nothing changed course including the NSE. Further afield in SA, even after booting Zuma the xenophobia continues and I suspect little to no reform will be acoomplished by Ramaphosa. In Zim, after the departure of Mugabe the monetary experiments and political represssion continue unabated since the social fabric(social psyche/integration) and economic variables haven't changed one bit. On the other end of the spectrum Botswana and Ghana(save for their debt appetite) are chugging along just fine despite the political changeovers. Politics/leadership is just a case of the tail pretending to wag the dog. The key for KE as is for many African countries is demographics. That is whether they will be able to harness the demographic dividend of a young population or will it turn into a never ending spiral of social upheaval. The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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lochaz-index wrote:wukan wrote:tandich wrote:How does one immunise their investments, even if partially, from the impending gloom? The malaise can go on for a long time. Haiti has been at it for 200 years, Argentina has been on burst burst cycles for 50+ years. The last time GoK did a similar binge on infrastructure was around 1920-1927. The economy never recovered from the debt binge until the 2nd world war. It took the Swynnerton Plan to fundamentally restructure the economy to get things going again. In between Happy valley manenos happened which was the equivalent of current parte after parte. Bro Enjoy life, plan for retirement-investments wachia wajukuu Everything ultimately rises and falls on leadership. Britain was on the malaise in 1960's and 1970's till Margaret Thatcher came and took the hard bold decisions. If you look at the current kenyan leadership no one has the brains or balls to get us out of the quagmire. So for now let's continue with parte after parte I see you are on a mission to kill the perma-optimists here who keep hoping and praying - but mostly praying - for some kind of economic miracle to surmount the malaise. I partly disagree on the point of everything hinging on leadership and by extension politics. The social and economic variables always move way ahead of the political situation prevailing at any one point. Politics is a therefore a consequence not necessarily the determinant. For example, that is why despite the rapprochement nothing changed course including the NSE. Further afield in SA, even after booting Zuma the xenophobia continues and I suspect little to no reform will be acoomplished by Ramaphosa. In Zim, after the departure of Mugabe the monetary experiments and political represssion continue unabated since the social fabric(social psyche/integration) and economic variables haven't changed one bit. On the other end of the spectrum Botswana and Ghana(save for their debt appetite) are chugging along just fine despite the political changeovers. Politics/leadership is just a case of the tail pretending to wag the dog. The key for KE as is for many African countries is demographics. That is whether they will be able to harness the demographic dividend of a young population or will it turn into a never ending spiral of social upheaval. A revolution of the people against the leadership is the solution Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/18/2019 Posts: 185 Location: kenya
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Fyatu wrote:MugundaMan wrote: Dont run like a coward bradza. - you didnt have to say it, you have implied that you HATE chinese imports. - oooo imports are from china - oooo no local companies because of Chinese companies - oooo the import export ratio favours China, My braddah we CANNOT develop without China's expertise and imports. Look at your friend Ndii. Went alllllll the way to Oxford and instead of bringing home technology to build factories and cars from Britain he came back with miwani ya kamba tu na stori mingi kwa gazeti worth zero.BURE GHABISA!!!! Oxford Ndii and his miwani ya kamba should get laid awache ku troll HE Uhuru and his family huko twirrer. Blah blah blah mingi hatutaki kusikia Where did @Mugundaman go to lol Dumbest chap on this platform.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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Monk wrote:rwitre wrote:tandich wrote:How does one immunise their investments, even if partially, from the impending gloom? 3 options, based on risk appetite: Guaranteed safety: Buy gold. Safety without liquidity: Buy land Liquidity with risk: Buy bitcoin Liquidity with minimal risk: Buy USD The Japanese Yen is a safe heaven. Like gold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Leadership is important, demographics are important, but the most important thing is to understand that the basic unit of the economy is the human individual's physical and psychological structure. This is the base of all economics that we have been overlooking.
Call it 'humanism' in its most ancient meaning. If we can invest in humanism, then we can turn clay into Gold. You can imagine what would happen if we were to produce gold even at mashinani.
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