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Fidel Odinga RIP
AlphDoti
#581 Posted : Saturday, October 19, 2019 6:01:02 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
Haiyan!What is going on here?

I may not like Baba Zero,but Miguna×2 has anikad him too much. Sasa Baba ataambia watu nini?

You take Miguna seriously?
Lolest!
#582 Posted : Saturday, October 19, 2019 6:28:23 PM
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I would never want Miguna as a friend. Or a lawyer. Or a teammate in whatever endeavour.

Total balaa this guy
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
hardwood
#583 Posted : Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:01:33 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
I would never want Miguna as a friend. Or a lawyer. Or a teammate in whatever endeavour.

Total balaa this guy

So you also have some skeletons in the closet. And some dead body somewhere. If you are upright and follow the narrow path, you don't have to fear miguna.
hardwood
#584 Posted : Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:05:20 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Haiyan!What is going on here?

I may not like Baba Zero,but Miguna×2 has anikad him too much. Sasa Baba ataambia watu nini?

You take Miguna seriously?

Miguna is always right. I have also read all his books and he is always 100% correct. Such a brilliant mind. He is the one Kenyan whom you should take seriously ALL THE TIME.
hardwood
#585 Posted : Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:17:46 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Peeling back the mask season 3. When it rains it pours....






The DCI should reopen this case based on the new information. The late lady's family should also demand justice. All lives are precious.
alma1
#586 Posted : Saturday, October 19, 2019 9:55:42 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
I would never want Miguna as a friend. Or a lawyer. Or a teammate in whatever endeavour.

Total balaa this guy


Imagine...

Aii even if I don't like you, some things you just don't say.

Aiii Miguna

Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

hardwood
#587 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2019 2:18:49 PM
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Wololo yaa yeee.......


grolut
#588 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2019 2:41:53 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Wololo yaa yeee.......




Jeso!
In a place where thought is abandoned, freedom can become a curse.
Angelica _ann
#589 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2019 4:48:01 PM
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grolut wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Wololo yaa yeee.......




Jeso!


As MM dies with hate and bile huko majuu cannot come to 'his' home country Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly , Baba ako ballroom dance ya Mashujaa day!!!
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hardwood
#590 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2019 5:55:35 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
grolut wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Wololo yaa yeee.......




Jeso!


As MM dies with hate and bile huko majuu cannot come to 'his' home country Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly , Baba ako ballroom dance ya Mashujaa day!!!


Why call the TRUTH eti hate and bile?
Lolest!
#591 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2019 7:19:55 PM
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@softwood, what do you think of the latest 'truth' by MM about Uhuru being Muturi Njee's son?

Told you something is amiss with your hero!
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
AlphDoti
#592 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2019 8:25:55 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
@softwood, what do you think of the latest 'truth' by MM about Uhuru being Muturi Njee's son?

Told you something is amiss with your hero!

Let him answer this one. He won't! Because ow it is clear MM is a fraud, loose mouth!
hardwood
#593 Posted : Monday, October 21, 2019 10:40:06 AM
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Fidel's mpango now disowns Ida. The mpango is fearing DNA tests....

https://www.the-star.co....wants-to-clear-the-air/

Quote:
Phoebe Akinyi Gweno, who is said to have delivered Fidel Odinga's twins, has emerged and disowned a suit filed by Ida Odinga.

Akinyi has termed the court battle started by Ida as malicious, raising interest about what she tells the court.

“The petition is marred with ill will and malicious motives, creating a tussle with the deceased's widow on one side and the deceased's mother and siblings on the other, her lawyer John Swaka said.

Akinyi has been managing a forex Bureau at Adams Arcade and sometimes at Warwick Centre in Gigiri.

It is not clear whether she had an intimate relationship with Fidel but Odinga's son used to change his money there and conduct his M-Pesa transactions at the same bureau.

"We do not know if Fidel actually had a relationship with Akinyi and whether the twins are actually Fidel's," Akinyi's colleague at the Forex Bureau said.
kaka2za
#594 Posted : Monday, October 21, 2019 11:50:23 AM
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hardwood wrote:
Fidel's mpango now disowns Ida. The mpango is fearing DNA tests....

https://www.the-star.co....wants-to-clear-the-air/

Quote:
Phoebe Akinyi Gweno, who is said to have delivered Fidel Odinga's twins, has emerged and disowned a suit filed by Ida Odinga.

Akinyi has termed the court battle started by Ida as malicious, raising interest about what she tells the court.

“The petition is marred with ill will and malicious motives, creating a tussle with the deceased's widow on one side and the deceased's mother and siblings on the other, her lawyer John Swaka said.

Akinyi has been managing a forex Bureau at Adams Arcade and sometimes at Warwick Centre in Gigiri.

It is not clear whether she had an intimate relationship with Fidel but Odinga's son used to change his money there and conduct his M-Pesa transactions at the same bureau.

"We do not know if Fidel actually had a relationship with Akinyi and whether the twins are actually Fidel's," Akinyi's colleague at the Forex Bureau said.


Did you actually read it fully? She is against Ida's petition but " she wants to be a party to the case in the interests of her children and to “clear the air.”

Hio mambo ya kuogopa DNA umetoa wapi?
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
mkenyan
#595 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2019 10:16:47 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Fidel's mpango now disowns Ida. The mpango is fearing DNA tests....

https://www.the-star.co....wants-to-clear-the-air/

Quote:
Phoebe Akinyi Gweno, who is said to have delivered Fidel Odinga's twins, has emerged and disowned a suit filed by Ida Odinga.

Akinyi has termed the court battle started by Ida as malicious, raising interest about what she tells the court.

“The petition is marred with ill will and malicious motives, creating a tussle with the deceased's widow on one side and the deceased's mother and siblings on the other, her lawyer John Swaka said.

Akinyi has been managing a forex Bureau at Adams Arcade and sometimes at Warwick Centre in Gigiri.

It is not clear whether she had an intimate relationship with Fidel but Odinga's son used to change his money there and conduct his M-Pesa transactions at the same bureau.

"We do not know if Fidel actually had a relationship with Akinyi and whether the twins are actually Fidel's," Akinyi's colleague at the Forex Bureau said.


Did you actually read it fully? She is against Ida's petition but " she wants to be a party to the case in the interests of her children and to “clear the air.”

Hio mambo ya kuogopa DNA umetoa wapi?

he was merely using that to side-step the issue of uhuru raised by Laughing out loudly above
hardwood
#596 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2019 10:35:21 AM
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kaka2za wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Fidel's mpango now disowns Ida. The mpango is fearing DNA tests....

https://www.the-star.co....wants-to-clear-the-air/

Quote:
Phoebe Akinyi Gweno, who is said to have delivered Fidel Odinga's twins, has emerged and disowned a suit filed by Ida Odinga.

Akinyi has termed the court battle started by Ida as malicious, raising interest about what she tells the court.

“The petition is marred with ill will and malicious motives, creating a tussle with the deceased's widow on one side and the deceased's mother and siblings on the other, her lawyer John Swaka said.

Akinyi has been managing a forex Bureau at Adams Arcade and sometimes at Warwick Centre in Gigiri.

It is not clear whether she had an intimate relationship with Fidel but Odinga's son used to change his money there and conduct his M-Pesa transactions at the same bureau.

"We do not know if Fidel actually had a relationship with Akinyi and whether the twins are actually Fidel's," Akinyi's colleague at the Forex Bureau said.


Did you actually read it fully? She is against Ida's petition but " she wants to be a party to the case in the interests of her children and to “clear the air.”

Hio mambo ya kuogopa DNA umetoa wapi?


All she is saying is that she is angry that Ida dragged her kids into a case against the daughter inlaw and that is why she wants to join the case to protect her kids reputation and clear the air that she and her kids have nothing to do with the legal fight between the two.

Being an interested party doesn't mean that you want your cut from a dispute. It's just like if some stranger "sold" your plot huko dustbowl to a 3rd party and then the buyer sued the conman. If you come to learn that your plot is the subject of discussions in court, you'd file to join the case as an interested party for the sake of your property and to clear the air. That doesnt mean that you want any money from the conman or the buyer rather you just want to set the record straight that the plot is yours and the people fighting in court are strangers to you and have nothing to do with you and your property. Likewise this lady's kids were mentioned in Ida's malicious court case and the lady doesn't want her kids dragged into the matter and that is why she wants to join the case and clear the air. Note that she never asked the court to allow her kids inherit fidels estate rather she only wants to clear the air and protect her kids reputation. If she wanted the kids to inherit fidel she would have filed a separate independent case expressly requesting that, not joining Ida's case. Also note that her workmates have been quoted as saying they are not aware of any relationship with fidel and they doubt if fidel is the father to the kids.
sparkly
#597 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2019 12:24:17 PM
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hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Fidel's mpango now disowns Ida. The mpango is fearing DNA tests....

https://www.the-star.co....wants-to-clear-the-air/

Quote:
Phoebe Akinyi Gweno, who is said to have delivered Fidel Odinga's twins, has emerged and disowned a suit filed by Ida Odinga.

Akinyi has termed the court battle started by Ida as malicious, raising interest about what she tells the court.

“The petition is marred with ill will and malicious motives, creating a tussle with the deceased's widow on one side and the deceased's mother and siblings on the other, her lawyer John Swaka said.

Akinyi has been managing a forex Bureau at Adams Arcade and sometimes at Warwick Centre in Gigiri.

It is not clear whether she had an intimate relationship with Fidel but Odinga's son used to change his money there and conduct his M-Pesa transactions at the same bureau.

"We do not know if Fidel actually had a relationship with Akinyi and whether the twins are actually Fidel's," Akinyi's colleague at the Forex Bureau said.


Did you actually read it fully? She is against Ida's petition but " she wants to be a party to the case in the interests of her children and to “clear the air.”

Hio mambo ya kuogopa DNA umetoa wapi?


All she is saying is that she is angry that Ida dragged her kids into a case against the daughter inlaw and that is why she wants to join the case to protect her kids reputation and clear the air that she and her kids have nothing to do with the legal fight between the two.

Being an interested party doesn't mean that you want your cut from a dispute. It's just like if some stranger "sold" your plot huko dustbowl to a 3rd party and then the buyer sued the conman. If you come to learn that your plot is the subject of discussions in court, you'd file to join the case as an interested party for the sake of your property and to clear the air. That doesnt mean that you want any money from the conman or the buyer rather you just want to set the record straight that the plot is yours and the people fighting in court are strangers to you and have nothing to do with you and your property. Likewise this lady's kids were mentioned in Ida's malicious court case and the lady doesn't want her kids dragged into the matter and that is why she wants to join the case and clear the air. Note that she never asked the court to allow her kids inherit fidels estate rather she only wants to clear the air and protect her kids reputation. If she wanted the kids to inherit fidel she would have filed a separate independent case expressly requesting that, not joining Ida's case. Also note that her workmates have been quoted as saying they are not aware of any relationship with fidel and they doubt if fidel is the father to the kids.


Leave the law to the lawyers my friend.

The case before court is about letters of administrations for the late Fidel's estate. The grant is opposed by Mama Ida and Winnie because they also want to be appointed as Trustees.

Akinyi is enjoined as an interested party because she is invested in the outcome of the court decision. She is not just a bystander or "a friend of the court". Her twins might be declared to have an interest in the late Fidel's estate. She might also be appointed a joint trustee/administrator of the estate.
Life is short. Live passionately.
murchr
#598 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2019 1:35:30 PM
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sparkly wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Fidel's mpango now disowns Ida. The mpango is fearing DNA tests....

https://www.the-star.co....wants-to-clear-the-air/

Quote:
Phoebe Akinyi Gweno, who is said to have delivered Fidel Odinga's twins, has emerged and disowned a suit filed by Ida Odinga.

Akinyi has termed the court battle started by Ida as malicious, raising interest about what she tells the court.

“The petition is marred with ill will and malicious motives, creating a tussle with the deceased's widow on one side and the deceased's mother and siblings on the other, her lawyer John Swaka said.

Akinyi has been managing a forex Bureau at Adams Arcade and sometimes at Warwick Centre in Gigiri.

It is not clear whether she had an intimate relationship with Fidel but Odinga's son used to change his money there and conduct his M-Pesa transactions at the same bureau.

"We do not know if Fidel actually had a relationship with Akinyi and whether the twins are actually Fidel's," Akinyi's colleague at the Forex Bureau said.


Did you actually read it fully? She is against Ida's petition but " she wants to be a party to the case in the interests of her children and to “clear the air.”

Hio mambo ya kuogopa DNA umetoa wapi?


All she is saying is that she is angry that Ida dragged her kids into a case against the daughter inlaw and that is why she wants to join the case to protect her kids reputation and clear the air that she and her kids have nothing to do with the legal fight between the two.

Being an interested party doesn't mean that you want your cut from a dispute. It's just like if some stranger "sold" your plot huko dustbowl to a 3rd party and then the buyer sued the conman. If you come to learn that your plot is the subject of discussions in court, you'd file to join the case as an interested party for the sake of your property and to clear the air. That doesnt mean that you want any money from the conman or the buyer rather you just want to set the record straight that the plot is yours and the people fighting in court are strangers to you and have nothing to do with you and your property. Likewise this lady's kids were mentioned in Ida's malicious court case and the lady doesn't want her kids dragged into the matter and that is why she wants to join the case and clear the air. Note that she never asked the court to allow her kids inherit fidels estate rather she only wants to clear the air and protect her kids reputation. If she wanted the kids to inherit fidel she would have filed a separate independent case expressly requesting that, not joining Ida's case. Also note that her workmates have been quoted as saying they are not aware of any relationship with fidel and they doubt if fidel is the father to the kids.


Leave the law to the lawyers my friend.

The case before court is about letters of administrations for the late Fidel's estate. The grant is opposed by Mama Ida and Winnie because they also want to be appointed as Trustees.

Akinyi is enjoined as an interested party because she is invested in the outcome of the court decision. She is not just a bystander or "a friend of the court". Her twins might be declared to have an interest in the late Fidel's estate. She might also be appointed a joint trustee/administrator of the estate.



The law only provides for the wife not mothers sisters or mpangos. If the twins are Fidels, the court will rule that they benefit off the estate. Hio tu.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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sparkly
#599 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2019 6:25:25 PM
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murchr wrote:
sparkly wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Fidel's mpango now disowns Ida. The mpango is fearing DNA tests....

https://www.the-star.co....wants-to-clear-the-air/

Quote:
Phoebe Akinyi Gweno, who is said to have delivered Fidel Odinga's twins, has emerged and disowned a suit filed by Ida Odinga.

Akinyi has termed the court battle started by Ida as malicious, raising interest about what she tells the court.

“The petition is marred with ill will and malicious motives, creating a tussle with the deceased's widow on one side and the deceased's mother and siblings on the other, her lawyer John Swaka said.

Akinyi has been managing a forex Bureau at Adams Arcade and sometimes at Warwick Centre in Gigiri.

It is not clear whether she had an intimate relationship with Fidel but Odinga's son used to change his money there and conduct his M-Pesa transactions at the same bureau.

"We do not know if Fidel actually had a relationship with Akinyi and whether the twins are actually Fidel's," Akinyi's colleague at the Forex Bureau said.


Did you actually read it fully? She is against Ida's petition but " she wants to be a party to the case in the interests of her children and to “clear the air.”

Hio mambo ya kuogopa DNA umetoa wapi?


All she is saying is that she is angry that Ida dragged her kids into a case against the daughter inlaw and that is why she wants to join the case to protect her kids reputation and clear the air that she and her kids have nothing to do with the legal fight between the two.

Being an interested party doesn't mean that you want your cut from a dispute. It's just like if some stranger "sold" your plot huko dustbowl to a 3rd party and then the buyer sued the conman. If you come to learn that your plot is the subject of discussions in court, you'd file to join the case as an interested party for the sake of your property and to clear the air. That doesnt mean that you want any money from the conman or the buyer rather you just want to set the record straight that the plot is yours and the people fighting in court are strangers to you and have nothing to do with you and your property. Likewise this lady's kids were mentioned in Ida's malicious court case and the lady doesn't want her kids dragged into the matter and that is why she wants to join the case and clear the air. Note that she never asked the court to allow her kids inherit fidels estate rather she only wants to clear the air and protect her kids reputation. If she wanted the kids to inherit fidel she would have filed a separate independent case expressly requesting that, not joining Ida's case. Also note that her workmates have been quoted as saying they are not aware of any relationship with fidel and they doubt if fidel is the father to the kids.


Leave the law to the lawyers my friend.

The case before court is about letters of administrations for the late Fidel's estate. The grant is opposed by Mama Ida and Winnie because they also want to be appointed as Trustees.

Akinyi is enjoined as an interested party because she is invested in the outcome of the court decision. She is not just a bystander or "a friend of the court". Her twins might be declared to have an interest in the late Fidel's estate. She might also be appointed a joint trustee/administrator of the estate.



The law only provides for the wife not mothers sisters or mpangos. If the twins are Fidels, the court will rule that they benefit off the estate. Hio tu.


Read sections 58(2) and 66 of the Law of Succession Act.

The widow has priority but the court has discretion.
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murchr
#600 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2019 7:20:27 PM
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sparkly wrote:
murchr wrote:
sparkly wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Fidel's mpango now disowns Ida. The mpango is fearing DNA tests....

https://www.the-star.co....wants-to-clear-the-air/

Quote:
Phoebe Akinyi Gweno, who is said to have delivered Fidel Odinga's twins, has emerged and disowned a suit filed by Ida Odinga.

Akinyi has termed the court battle started by Ida as malicious, raising interest about what she tells the court.

“The petition is marred with ill will and malicious motives, creating a tussle with the deceased's widow on one side and the deceased's mother and siblings on the other, her lawyer John Swaka said.

Akinyi has been managing a forex Bureau at Adams Arcade and sometimes at Warwick Centre in Gigiri.

It is not clear whether she had an intimate relationship with Fidel but Odinga's son used to change his money there and conduct his M-Pesa transactions at the same bureau.

"We do not know if Fidel actually had a relationship with Akinyi and whether the twins are actually Fidel's," Akinyi's colleague at the Forex Bureau said.


Did you actually read it fully? She is against Ida's petition but " she wants to be a party to the case in the interests of her children and to “clear the air.”

Hio mambo ya kuogopa DNA umetoa wapi?


All she is saying is that she is angry that Ida dragged her kids into a case against the daughter inlaw and that is why she wants to join the case to protect her kids reputation and clear the air that she and her kids have nothing to do with the legal fight between the two.

Being an interested party doesn't mean that you want your cut from a dispute. It's just like if some stranger "sold" your plot huko dustbowl to a 3rd party and then the buyer sued the conman. If you come to learn that your plot is the subject of discussions in court, you'd file to join the case as an interested party for the sake of your property and to clear the air. That doesnt mean that you want any money from the conman or the buyer rather you just want to set the record straight that the plot is yours and the people fighting in court are strangers to you and have nothing to do with you and your property. Likewise this lady's kids were mentioned in Ida's malicious court case and the lady doesn't want her kids dragged into the matter and that is why she wants to join the case and clear the air. Note that she never asked the court to allow her kids inherit fidels estate rather she only wants to clear the air and protect her kids reputation. If she wanted the kids to inherit fidel she would have filed a separate independent case expressly requesting that, not joining Ida's case. Also note that her workmates have been quoted as saying they are not aware of any relationship with fidel and they doubt if fidel is the father to the kids.


Leave the law to the lawyers my friend.

The case before court is about letters of administrations for the late Fidel's estate. The grant is opposed by Mama Ida and Winnie because they also want to be appointed as Trustees.

Akinyi is enjoined as an interested party because she is invested in the outcome of the court decision. She is not just a bystander or "a friend of the court". Her twins might be declared to have an interest in the late Fidel's estate. She might also be appointed a joint trustee/administrator of the estate.



The law only provides for the wife not mothers sisters or mpangos. If the twins are Fidels, the court will rule that they benefit off the estate. Hio tu.


Read sections 58(2) and 66 of the Law of Succession Act.

The widow has priority but the court has discretion.



I happen to have some free time today.

Law of Succession wrote:


34. Meaning of intestacy
A person is deemed to die intestate in respect of all his free property of which he has not made a will which is capable of taking effect.

35. Where intestate has left one surviving spouse and child or children
(1) Subject to the provisions of section 40, where an intestate has left one surviving spouse and a child or children, the surviving spouse shall be entitled to—
(a) the personal and household effects of the deceased absolutely; and
(b) a life interest in the whole residue of the net intestate estate:
Provided that, if the surviving spouse is a widow, that interest shall determine upon her re-marriage to any person.
(2) A surviving spouse shall, during the continuation of the life interest provided by subsection (1), have a power of appointment of all or any part of the
capital of the net intestate estate by way of gift taking immediate effect among the surviving child or children, but that power shall not be exercised by will nor in such manner as to take effect at any future date.


Fidel died without a will or trust. So how does section 58 arise?


PS: A trust is a legal way to hold and protect your assets for the future. A document called the trust deed is the set of rules for the operation of the trust.

A continuing trust is one that lives longer than its creator. Did Fidel create a trust?
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