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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:mv_ufanisi wrote:Njunge wrote:Any time shithole f***ers are cornered in a sober argument, they react/respond in the same old predictable and annoyed way just to try and shift focus. Oh, this country has more problems, oh, alshabab, oh likoni ferry, oh blah blah.... and when such topics are on, they contribute nada. Mugs!!! Why do a lot of guys enjoy getting blow jobs yet the mouth was not built for that? Why don't you also bash the mouth f***ers? Was the mouth built for that? One of the problems of colonialism is that it prevented people from independent inquiry and thought. Most people are sheep. They follow what their Pastor, Imam or whoever else tells them without thinking for themselves and entertaining the idea that life is not so black and white. I'm personally only attracted to women and just because I can't imagine getting attracted to guys should actually be a reason why I empathize with gays. If someone can see a beautiful woman and still feel nothing, that guy has a different makeup from me, it's that simple. Most guys are just trying to stay disciplined and not stare while here is someone who actually feels zero. Nada. You want to attack that guy for that? Very simplistic thinking. Did you hear anybody be it a pastor/imam supporting blow job or masturbation? All sexual vileness including shit hole f***ing are an abomination to God. Period. Yet the people of God are the most notorious for back shot manenos. Hypocrites worse than prostitutes and tax collectors f**k from behind! Asshole is for garbage disposal and not heinous sexual pleasure. You are worryingly brainwashed to think that tax collectors are evil people. The reason tax collectors were hated in the gospels is because Palestine, the land of the jews at that time was under occupation by Rome. The Provinnce of Palestine tax collectors were jewish appointees of the Roman empire. Naturally, tax collectors were resented by local jewish population just like collaborators and headmen when Kenya was a British colony. In an ordinary, self governing nation/ state, tax collectors are public servants just like teachers, police, nurses, doctors etc Prostitution is as old as humanity itself. Even the jews had shrine prostitutes and it was ok to sleep with them (see the story of Judah and Tamar). The problem with most Wazuans is reading the word of God and leaning to their own understanding . I pray that you reread till the holy spirit gives you leeway for deeper revelation. Neno la Mungu si gazeti ya kufunga nyama. Matthew 21:31-32 "Which of the two did what his father wanted?" "The first," they answered. Jesus said to them, "Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him. In this scripture Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees and Sadducees who were hypocrites in those days. Pharisees and Sadducees are the modern day pastors and imams sleeping with boys in the synagogues and mosques...and even in lodgings/brothels whichever the place. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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AlphDoti wrote:wukan wrote:hardwood wrote:I can see that all the wazua gays have come out to support their faggot brethren. Ni kweli dunia imepasuka. we can say the same about you and murderers. Think!!! Have you seen @hardwood defend the murderers? Yes, he is No. 1 defender of Jowie, Obado and Sarah. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Spikes wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:mv_ufanisi wrote:Njunge wrote:Any time shithole f***ers are cornered in a sober argument, they react/respond in the same old predictable and annoyed way just to try and shift focus. Oh, this country has more problems, oh, alshabab, oh likoni ferry, oh blah blah.... and when such topics are on, they contribute nada. Mugs!!! Why do a lot of guys enjoy getting blow jobs yet the mouth was not built for that? Why don't you also bash the mouth f***ers? Was the mouth built for that? One of the problems of colonialism is that it prevented people from independent inquiry and thought. Most people are sheep. They follow what their Pastor, Imam or whoever else tells them without thinking for themselves and entertaining the idea that life is not so black and white. I'm personally only attracted to women and just because I can't imagine getting attracted to guys should actually be a reason why I empathize with gays. If someone can see a beautiful woman and still feel nothing, that guy has a different makeup from me, it's that simple. Most guys are just trying to stay disciplined and not stare while here is someone who actually feels zero. Nada. You want to attack that guy for that? Very simplistic thinking. Did you hear anybody be it a pastor/imam supporting blow job or masturbation? All sexual vileness including shit hole f***ing are an abomination to God. Period. Yet the people of God are the most notorious for back shot manenos. Hypocrites worse than prostitutes and tax collectors f**k from behind! Asshole is for garbage disposal and not heinous sexual pleasure. You are worryingly brainwashed to think that tax collectors are evil people. The reason tax collectors were hated in the gospels is because Palestine, the land of the jews at that time was under occupation by Rome. The Provinnce of Palestine tax collectors were jewish appointees of the Roman empire. Naturally, tax collectors were resented by local jewish population just like collaborators and headmen when Kenya was a British colony. In an ordinary, self governing nation/ state, tax collectors are public servants just like teachers, police, nurses, doctors etc Prostitution is as old as humanity itself. Even the jews had shrine prostitutes and it was ok to sleep with them (see the story of Judah and Tamar). The problem with most Wazuans is reading the word of God and leaning to their own understanding . I pray that you reread till the holy spirit gives you leeway for deeper revelation. Neno la Mungu si gazeti ya kufunga nyama. Matthew 21:31-32 "Which of the two did what his father wanted?" "The first," they answered. Jesus said to them, "Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him. In this scripture Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees and Sadducees who were hypocrites in those days. Pharisees and Sadducees are the modern day pastors and imams sleeping with boys in the synagogues and mosques...and even in lodgings/brothels whichever the place. Your problem is digesting the scriptures as fed to you by your sunday school teacher without critical thought. At least read some basic middle east history and theology before comimg to tell us nonsense. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:mv_ufanisi wrote:Njunge wrote:Any time shithole f***ers are cornered in a sober argument, they react/respond in the same old predictable and annoyed way just to try and shift focus. Oh, this country has more problems, oh, alshabab, oh likoni ferry, oh blah blah.... and when such topics are on, they contribute nada. Mugs!!! Why do a lot of guys enjoy getting blow jobs yet the mouth was not built for that? Why don't you also bash the mouth f***ers? Was the mouth built for that? One of the problems of colonialism is that it prevented people from independent inquiry and thought. Most people are sheep. They follow what their Pastor, Imam or whoever else tells them without thinking for themselves and entertaining the idea that life is not so black and white. I'm personally only attracted to women and just because I can't imagine getting attracted to guys should actually be a reason why I empathize with gays. If someone can see a beautiful woman and still feel nothing, that guy has a different makeup from me, it's that simple. Most guys are just trying to stay disciplined and not stare while here is someone who actually feels zero. Nada. You want to attack that guy for that? Very simplistic thinking. Did you hear anybody be it a pastor/imam supporting blow job or masturbation? All sexual vileness including shit hole f***ing are an abomination to God. Period. Yet the people of God are the most notorious for back shot manenos. Hypocrites worse than prostitutes and tax collectors f**k from behind! Asshole is for garbage disposal and not heinous sexual pleasure. You are worryingly brainwashed to think that tax collectors are evil people. The reason tax collectors were hated in the gospels is because Palestine, the land of the jews at that time was under occupation by Rome. The Provinnce of Palestine tax collectors were jewish appointees of the Roman empire. Naturally, tax collectors were resented by local jewish population just like collaborators and headmen when Kenya was a British colony. In an ordinary, self governing nation/ state, tax collectors are public servants just like teachers, police, nurses, doctors etc Prostitution is as old as humanity itself. Even the jews had shrine prostitutes and it was ok to sleep with them (see the story of Judah and Tamar). The problem with most Wazuans is reading the word of God and leaning to their own understanding . I pray that you reread till the holy spirit gives you leeway for deeper revelation. Neno la Mungu si gazeti ya kufunga nyama. Matthew 21:31-32 "Which of the two did what his father wanted?" "The first," they answered. Jesus said to them, "Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him. In this scripture Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees and Sadducees who were hypocrites in those days. Pharisees and Sadducees are the modern day pastors and imams sleeping with boys in the synagogues and mosques...and even in lodgings/brothels whichever the place. Your problem is digesting the scriptures as fed to you by your sunday school teacher without critical thought. At least read some basic middle east history and theology before comimg to tell us nonsense. You're possessed with religious spirit blocking your understanding of the scripture. Get a man of God to exorcise you first to make you see the light. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Tokyo wrote:Some human are just weird and strange. They want now to dictate to others who they should share their private life with. Odd enough even who and how to worship. Very strange indeed. There are 31,102 verses in the Bible: 23,145 and 7,957 in the old and new testaments respectively. Moralists quote less than 10 verses to tell us how to live. 10 verses of ancient, canaanite morals. Some humans will not accept the gift of a 15 year old Nokia 3320 (they want the latest iphone or samsung) yet want us to live per a 4000 year old canaanite moral code. Why a 4000 year old canaanite moral code, not Egyptian, Zoraastrian, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Mayan, Norse, Nubian or Babylonian? Because the canaanite god said so! Watu wakuwe serious please. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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sparkly wrote:Tokyo wrote:Some human are just weird and strange. They want now to dictate to others who they should share their private life with. Odd enough even who and how to worship. Very strange indeed. There are 31,102 verses in the Bible: 23,145 and 7,957 in the old and new testaments respectively. Moralists quote less than 10 verses to tell us how to live. 10 verses of ancient, canaanite morals. Some humans will not accept the gift of a 15 year old Nokia 3320 (they want the latest iphone or samsung) yet want us to live per a 4000 year old canaanite moral code. Why a 4000 year old canaanite moral code, not Egyptian, Zoraastrian, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Mayan, Norse, Nubian or Babylonian? Because the canaanite god said so! Watu wakuwe serious please. Christianity and Islam are very recent happenings in our african societies. In our traditional African societies there was no homosexuality. Infact a man was free to marry as many women as he could support. Therefore we do not reject gayism just because the bible says so but because it is against our african culture. The bible only reinforces our views on the issue.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Tokyo wrote:Some human are just weird and strange. They want now to dictate to others who they should share their private life with. Odd enough even who and how to worship.
Surely even where you live your neighbors and larger community would be greatly offended if you were "to share your private life" with a goat ie beastiality, or if you kept some huge snake or other animal to be worshiping in your own unique rituals. Therefore your personal freedom to love and worship has boundaries which are dictated by strange humans who are called the society.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,588
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hardwood wrote:sparkly wrote:Tokyo wrote:Some human are just weird and strange. They want now to dictate to others who they should share their private life with. Odd enough even who and how to worship. Very strange indeed. There are 31,102 verses in the Bible: 23,145 and 7,957 in the old and new testaments respectively. Moralists quote less than 10 verses to tell us how to live. 10 verses of ancient, canaanite morals. Some humans will not accept the gift of a 15 year old Nokia 3320 (they want the latest iphone or samsung) yet want us to live per a 4000 year old canaanite moral code. Why a 4000 year old canaanite moral code, not Egyptian, Zoraastrian, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Mayan, Norse, Nubian or Babylonian? Because the canaanite god said so! Watu wakuwe serious please. Christianity and Islam are very recent happenings in our african societies. In our traditional African societies there was no homosexuality. Infact a man was free to marry as many women as he could support. Therefore we do not reject gayism just because the bible says so but because it is against our african culture. The bible only reinforces our views on the issue. kijana I remember I recommended to you that book "white king of the wakikuyu"(*you refused to share the dirty secrets like how there were no STIs back then so wife swapping was the in thing). African culture was not cast in stone. You need to research your african traditions properly "boy wives" was a feature of african society. Words like "shoga" "basha" are swahili words for gay boys. "wasaga' or "wasagaji" are lesbians (grinders). Jomo Kenyatta "facing mount Kenya" will tell that homosexuality was allowed for kihii but they were expected to outgrow it. There was sexual training called 'nguiko' to help them channel their sexual energies. Quote:Kenyatta explains that Nguīko, or fondling as he calls it, was looked upon as a sacred act and one which followed a systematic, well organized method. He explains that all matters relating to sex were done in a well regulated code of convention. He states that this form of regulation of sexual energy formed the basis of health and was the foundation stone upon which the Gikuyu built themselves into a physically, morally and mentally sound race free from nervous and psychic maladjustments. Thus the cardinal virtue among the Gikuyu of temperance where powerful creative energy is hidden, controlled and used judiciously was learned. I can give other examples like Baganda had the term "Okulya ebisiyagi" "eat (messy) butter(*Although it is claimed the arab traders introduced it)." In Congo there was bride price paid for 'boy wives'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Spikes wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:mv_ufanisi wrote:Njunge wrote:Any time shithole f***ers are cornered in a sober argument, they react/respond in the same old predictable and annoyed way just to try and shift focus. Oh, this country has more problems, oh, alshabab, oh likoni ferry, oh blah blah.... and when such topics are on, they contribute nada. Mugs!!! Why do a lot of guys enjoy getting blow jobs yet the mouth was not built for that? Why don't you also bash the mouth f***ers? Was the mouth built for that? One of the problems of colonialism is that it prevented people from independent inquiry and thought. Most people are sheep. They follow what their Pastor, Imam or whoever else tells them without thinking for themselves and entertaining the idea that life is not so black and white. I'm personally only attracted to women and just because I can't imagine getting attracted to guys should actually be a reason why I empathize with gays. If someone can see a beautiful woman and still feel nothing, that guy has a different makeup from me, it's that simple. Most guys are just trying to stay disciplined and not stare while here is someone who actually feels zero. Nada. You want to attack that guy for that? Very simplistic thinking. Did you hear anybody be it a pastor/imam supporting blow job or masturbation? All sexual vileness including shit hole f***ing are an abomination to God. Period. Yet the people of God are the most notorious for back shot manenos. Hypocrites worse than prostitutes and tax collectors f**k from behind! Asshole is for garbage disposal and not heinous sexual pleasure. You are worryingly brainwashed to think that tax collectors are evil people. The reason tax collectors were hated in the gospels is because Palestine, the land of the jews at that time was under occupation by Rome. The Provinnce of Palestine tax collectors were jewish appointees of the Roman empire. Naturally, tax collectors were resented by local jewish population just like collaborators and headmen when Kenya was a British colony. In an ordinary, self governing nation/ state, tax collectors are public servants just like teachers, police, nurses, doctors etc Prostitution is as old as humanity itself. Even the jews had shrine prostitutes and it was ok to sleep with them (see the story of Judah and Tamar). The problem with most Wazuans is reading the word of God and leaning to their own understanding . I pray that you reread till the holy spirit gives you leeway for deeper revelation. Neno la Mungu si gazeti ya kufunga nyama. Matthew 21:31-32 "Which of the two did what his father wanted?" "The first," they answered. Jesus said to them, "Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him. In this scripture Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees and Sadducees who were hypocrites in those days. Pharisees and Sadducees are the modern day pastors and imams sleeping with boys in the synagogues and mosques... and even in lodgings/brothels whichever the place. Your problem is digesting the scriptures as fed to you by your Sunday school teacher without critical thought. At least read some basic middle east history and theology before coming to tell us nonsense. You're possessed with religious spirit blocking your understanding of the scripture. Get a man of God to exorcise you first to make you see the light. @Spikes you are the one quoting verses randomly without understanding. Tell us why the tax collectors are put together with the prostitutes? And why they repented? NOTE: Before you post without thinking again, yes we know you have to repent your sins. We know that. Now tell us what those two groups were repenting from.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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wukan wrote:hardwood wrote:sparkly wrote:Tokyo wrote:Some human are just weird and strange. They want now to dictate to others who they should share their private life with. Odd enough even who and how to worship. Very strange indeed. There are 31,102 verses in the Bible: 23,145 and 7,957 in the old and new testaments respectively. Moralists quote less than 10 verses to tell us how to live. 10 verses of ancient, canaanite morals. Some humans will not accept the gift of a 15 year old Nokia 3320 (they want the latest iphone or samsung) yet want us to live per a 4000 year old canaanite moral code. Why a 4000 year old canaanite moral code, not Egyptian, Zoraastrian, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Mayan, Norse, Nubian or Babylonian? Because the canaanite god said so! Watu wakuwe serious please. Christianity and Islam are very recent happenings in our african societies. In our traditional African societies there was no homosexuality. Infact a man was free to marry as many women as he could support. Therefore we do not reject gayism just because the bible says so but because it is against our african culture. The bible only reinforces our views on the issue. kijana I remember I recommended to you that book "white king of the wakikuyu"(*you refused to share the dirty secrets like how there were no STIs back then so wife swapping was the in thing). African culture was not cast in stone. You need to research your african traditions properly "boy wives" was a feature of african society. Words like "shoga" "basha" are swahili words for gay boys. "wasaga' or "wasagaji" are lesbians (grinders). Jomo Kenyatta "facing mount Kenya" will tell that homosexuality was allowed for kihii but they were expected to outgrow it. There was sexual training called 'nguiko' to help them channel their sexual energies. Quote:Kenyatta explains that Nguīko, or fondling as he calls it, was looked upon as a sacred act and one which followed a systematic, well organized method. He explains that all matters relating to sex were done in a well regulated code of convention. He states that this form of regulation of sexual energy formed the basis of health and was the foundation stone upon which the Gikuyu built themselves into a physically, morally and mentally sound race free from nervous and psychic maladjustments. Thus the cardinal virtue among the Gikuyu of temperance where powerful creative energy is hidden, controlled and used judiciously was learned. I can give other examples like Baganda had the term "Okulya ebisiyagi" "eat (messy) butter(*Although it is claimed the arab traders introduced it)." In Congo there was bride price paid for 'boy wives' @wekan, the large intestine/colon is a sewer. Let us discourage those who have tendency that, that organ should not be abused or misused. Toxins and other waste are kept in the colon for some time before released out. The waste is putrefied, decaying, fermenting substance which should be treated only as waste. Please brother, how do you advise to smear himself with this foul smelling stool!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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AlphDoti wrote:wukan wrote:hardwood wrote:sparkly wrote:Tokyo wrote:Some human are just weird and strange. They want now to dictate to others who they should share their private life with. Odd enough even who and how to worship. Very strange indeed. There are 31,102 verses in the Bible: 23,145 and 7,957 in the old and new testaments respectively. Moralists quote less than 10 verses to tell us how to live. 10 verses of ancient, canaanite morals. Some humans will not accept the gift of a 15 year old Nokia 3320 (they want the latest iphone or samsung) yet want us to live per a 4000 year old canaanite moral code. Why a 4000 year old canaanite moral code, not Egyptian, Zoraastrian, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Mayan, Norse, Nubian or Babylonian? Because the canaanite god said so! Watu wakuwe serious please. Christianity and Islam are very recent happenings in our african societies. In our traditional African societies there was no homosexuality. Infact a man was free to marry as many women as he could support. Therefore we do not reject gayism just because the bible says so but because it is against our african culture. The bible only reinforces our views on the issue. kijana I remember I recommended to you that book "white king of the wakikuyu"(*you refused to share the dirty secrets like how there were no STIs back then so wife swapping was the in thing). African culture was not cast in stone. You need to research your african traditions properly "boy wives" was a feature of african society. Words like "shoga" "basha" are swahili words for gay boys. "wasaga' or "wasagaji" are lesbians (grinders). Jomo Kenyatta "facing mount Kenya" will tell that homosexuality was allowed for kihii but they were expected to outgrow it. There was sexual training called 'nguiko' to help them channel their sexual energies. Quote:Kenyatta explains that Nguīko, or fondling as he calls it, was looked upon as a sacred act and one which followed a systematic, well organized method. He explains that all matters relating to sex were done in a well regulated code of convention. He states that this form of regulation of sexual energy formed the basis of health and was the foundation stone upon which the Gikuyu built themselves into a physically, morally and mentally sound race free from nervous and psychic maladjustments. Thus the cardinal virtue among the Gikuyu of temperance where powerful creative energy is hidden, controlled and used judiciously was learned. I can give other examples like Baganda had the term "Okulya ebisiyagi" "eat (messy) butter(*Although it is claimed the arab traders introduced it)." In Congo there was bride price paid for 'boy wives' @wekan, the large intestine/colon is a sewer. Let us discourage those who have tendency that, that organ should not be abused or misused. Toxins and other waste are kept in the colon for some time before released out. The waste is putrefied, decaying, fermenting substance which should be treated only as waste. Please brother, how do you advise to smear himself with this foul smelling stool! @AlphDoti, will you have an issue if one of your 4 wives offers to "milk" your prostate? Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,588
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AlphDoti wrote: @wekan, the large intestine/colon is a sewer. Let us discourage those who have tendency that, that organ should not be abused or misused. Toxins and other waste are kept in the colon for some time before released out. The waste is putrefied, decaying, fermenting substance which should be treated only as waste. Please brother, how do you advise to smear himself with this foul smelling stool!
I was only pointing out to @hardwood that Africans were sexually liberated and there were ways of channeling sexual energy which do not exist. Nature is always evolving species. Human females would be walking on fours if we insisted on keeping the order of nature. But when females started walking on two feet their wombs changed positions and they started giving birth to premature babies. If nature is evolving the species by adding pleasure nerves to the anus who am I to argue with nature. If homosexuality is nature's way of limiting population growth then what do I know. What I know nature punishes those species that refuse to adapt to change. Neanderthals were wiped out. It is not wise to impose my opinions or my sexual moral code on others-live and let live. Traditional african society imposed on women Female Genital Mutilation which constrained population growth. When foreign invaders came it was easy conquest and they imposed on us was middle east Judeo/christian moral code. Lastly @AlphDoti have you ever gone for a prostrate exam the traditional index exam?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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wukan wrote:AlphDoti wrote: @wekan, the large intestine/colon is a sewer. Let us discourage those who have tendency that, that organ should not be abused or misused. Toxins and other waste are kept in the colon for some time before released out. The waste is putrefied, decaying, fermenting substance which should be treated only as waste. Please brother, how do you advise to smear himself with this foul smelling stool!
I was only pointing out to @hardwood that Africans were sexually liberated and there were ways of channeling sexual energy which do not exist. Nature is always evolving species. Human females would be walking on fours if we insisted on keeping the order of nature. But when females started walking on two feet their wombs changed positions and they started giving birth to premature babies. If nature is evolving the species by adding pleasure nerves to the anus who am I to argue with nature. If homosexuality is nature's way of limiting population growth then what do I know. What I know nature punishes those species that refuse to adapt to change. Neanderthals were wiped out. It is not wise to impose my opinions or my sexual moral code on others-live and let live. Traditional african society imposed on women Female Genital Mutilation which constrained population growth. When foreign invaders came it was easy conquest and they imposed on us was middle east Judeo/christian moral code. Lastly @AlphDoti have you ever gone for a prostrate exam the traditional index exam? There was a reason why nature provided two passages down there. Otherwise, it would have been only one. One is a garden where a plane lands and has reproductive ability. The other one is a sewage to temporarily keep waste. Use each organ appropriately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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sparkly wrote:AlphDoti wrote:wukan wrote:hardwood wrote:sparkly wrote:Tokyo wrote:Some human are just weird and strange. They want now to dictate to others who they should share their private life with. Odd enough even who and how to worship. Very strange indeed. There are 31,102 verses in the Bible: 23,145 and 7,957 in the old and new testaments respectively. Moralists quote less than 10 verses to tell us how to live. 10 verses of ancient, canaanite morals. Some humans will not accept the gift of a 15 year old Nokia 3320 (they want the latest iphone or samsung) yet want us to live per a 4000 year old canaanite moral code. Why a 4000 year old canaanite moral code, not Egyptian, Zoraastrian, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Mayan, Norse, Nubian or Babylonian? Because the canaanite god said so! Watu wakuwe serious please. Christianity and Islam are very recent happenings in our african societies. In our traditional African societies there was no homosexuality. Infact a man was free to marry as many women as he could support. Therefore we do not reject gayism just because the bible says so but because it is against our african culture. The bible only reinforces our views on the issue. kijana I remember I recommended to you that book "white king of the wakikuyu"(*you refused to share the dirty secrets like how there were no STIs back then so wife swapping was the in thing). African culture was not cast in stone. You need to research your african traditions properly "boy wives" was a feature of african society. Words like "shoga" "basha" are swahili words for gay boys. "wasaga' or "wasagaji" are lesbians (grinders). Jomo Kenyatta "facing mount Kenya" will tell that homosexuality was allowed for kihii but they were expected to outgrow it. There was sexual training called 'nguiko' to help them channel their sexual energies. Quote:Kenyatta explains that Nguīko, or fondling as he calls it, was looked upon as a sacred act and one which followed a systematic, well organized method. He explains that all matters relating to sex were done in a well regulated code of convention. He states that this form of regulation of sexual energy formed the basis of health and was the foundation stone upon which the Gikuyu built themselves into a physically, morally and mentally sound race free from nervous and psychic maladjustments. Thus the cardinal virtue among the Gikuyu of temperance where powerful creative energy is hidden, controlled and used judiciously was learned. I can give other examples like Baganda had the term "Okulya ebisiyagi" "eat (messy) butter(*Although it is claimed the arab traders introduced it)." In Congo there was bride price paid for 'boy wives' @wekan, the large intestine/colon is a sewer. Let us discourage those who have tendency that, that organ should not be abused or misused. Toxins and other waste are kept in the colon for some time before released out. The waste is putrefied, decaying, fermenting substance which should be treated only as waste. Please brother, how do you advise to smear himself with this foul smelling stool! @AlphDoti, will you have an issue if one of your 4 wives offers to "milk" your prostate? I don't have 4 wives. Would the question still be valid?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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AlphDoti wrote:sparkly wrote:AlphDoti wrote:wukan wrote:hardwood wrote:sparkly wrote:Tokyo wrote:Some human are just weird and strange. They want now to dictate to others who they should share their private life with. Odd enough even who and how to worship. Very strange indeed. There are 31,102 verses in the Bible: 23,145 and 7,957 in the old and new testaments respectively. Moralists quote less than 10 verses to tell us how to live. 10 verses of ancient, canaanite morals. Some humans will not accept the gift of a 15 year old Nokia 3320 (they want the latest iphone or samsung) yet want us to live per a 4000 year old canaanite moral code. Why a 4000 year old canaanite moral code, not Egyptian, Zoraastrian, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Mayan, Norse, Nubian or Babylonian? Because the canaanite god said so! Watu wakuwe serious please. Christianity and Islam are very recent happenings in our african societies. In our traditional African societies there was no homosexuality. Infact a man was free to marry as many women as he could support. Therefore we do not reject gayism just because the bible says so but because it is against our african culture. The bible only reinforces our views on the issue. kijana I remember I recommended to you that book "white king of the wakikuyu"(*you refused to share the dirty secrets like how there were no STIs back then so wife swapping was the in thing). African culture was not cast in stone. You need to research your african traditions properly "boy wives" was a feature of african society. Words like "shoga" "basha" are swahili words for gay boys. "wasaga' or "wasagaji" are lesbians (grinders). Jomo Kenyatta "facing mount Kenya" will tell that homosexuality was allowed for kihii but they were expected to outgrow it. There was sexual training called 'nguiko' to help them channel their sexual energies. Quote:Kenyatta explains that Nguīko, or fondling as he calls it, was looked upon as a sacred act and one which followed a systematic, well organized method. He explains that all matters relating to sex were done in a well regulated code of convention. He states that this form of regulation of sexual energy formed the basis of health and was the foundation stone upon which the Gikuyu built themselves into a physically, morally and mentally sound race free from nervous and psychic maladjustments. Thus the cardinal virtue among the Gikuyu of temperance where powerful creative energy is hidden, controlled and used judiciously was learned. I can give other examples like Baganda had the term "Okulya ebisiyagi" "eat (messy) butter(*Although it is claimed the arab traders introduced it)." In Congo there was bride price paid for 'boy wives' @wekan, the large intestine/colon is a sewer. Let us discourage those who have tendency that, that organ should not be abused or misused. Toxins and other waste are kept in the colon for some time before released out. The waste is putrefied, decaying, fermenting substance which should be treated only as waste. Please brother, how do you advise to smear himself with this foul smelling stool! @AlphDoti, will you have an issue if one of your 4 wives offers to "milk" your prostate? I don't have 4 wives. Would the question still be valid? @wukan, nguiko was strictly between young unmarried men and women. Also can you quote the page in Jomo's book that says homosexuality was allowed among boys. I have the book and I have never seen such a thing.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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AlphDoti wrote:Spikes wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:mv_ufanisi wrote:Njunge wrote:Any time shithole f***ers are cornered in a sober argument, they react/respond in the same old predictable and annoyed way just to try and shift focus. Oh, this country has more problems, oh, alshabab, oh likoni ferry, oh blah blah.... and when such topics are on, they contribute nada. Mugs!!! Why do a lot of guys enjoy getting blow jobs yet the mouth was not built for that? Why don't you also bash the mouth f***ers? Was the mouth built for that? One of the problems of colonialism is that it prevented people from independent inquiry and thought. Most people are sheep. They follow what their Pastor, Imam or whoever else tells them without thinking for themselves and entertaining the idea that life is not so black and white. I'm personally only attracted to women and just because I can't imagine getting attracted to guys should actually be a reason why I empathize with gays. If someone can see a beautiful woman and still feel nothing, that guy has a different makeup from me, it's that simple. Most guys are just trying to stay disciplined and not stare while here is someone who actually feels zero. Nada. You want to attack that guy for that? Very simplistic thinking. Did you hear anybody be it a pastor/imam supporting blow job or masturbation? All sexual vileness including shit hole f***ing are an abomination to God. Period. Yet the people of God are the most notorious for back shot manenos. Hypocrites worse than prostitutes and tax collectors f**k from behind! Asshole is for garbage disposal and not heinous sexual pleasure. You are worryingly brainwashed to think that tax collectors are evil people. The reason tax collectors were hated in the gospels is because Palestine, the land of the jews at that time was under occupation by Rome. The Provinnce of Palestine tax collectors were jewish appointees of the Roman empire. Naturally, tax collectors were resented by local jewish population just like collaborators and headmen when Kenya was a British colony. In an ordinary, self governing nation/ state, tax collectors are public servants just like teachers, police, nurses, doctors etc Prostitution is as old as humanity itself. Even the jews had shrine prostitutes and it was ok to sleep with them (see the story of Judah and Tamar). The problem with most Wazuans is reading the word of God and leaning to their own understanding . I pray that you reread till the holy spirit gives you leeway for deeper revelation. Neno la Mungu si gazeti ya kufunga nyama. Matthew 21:31-32 "Which of the two did what his father wanted?" "The first," they answered. Jesus said to them, "Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him. In this scripture Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees and Sadducees who were hypocrites in those days. Pharisees and Sadducees are the modern day pastors and imams sleeping with boys in the synagogues and mosques... and even in lodgings/brothels whichever the place. Your problem is digesting the scriptures as fed to you by your Sunday school teacher without critical thought. At least read some basic middle east history and theology before coming to tell us nonsense. You're possessed with religious spirit blocking your understanding of the scripture. Get a man of God to exorcise you first to make you see the light. @Spikes you are the one quoting verses randomly without understanding. Tell us why the tax collectors are put together with the prostitutes? And why they repented? NOTE: Before you post without thinking again, yes we know you have to repent your sins. We know that. Now tell us what those two groups were repenting from. Good question unlike @Sparkly but you both share common denominator of misunderstanding the scriptures. I will get back for more concise explanation as to why tax collectors and prostitutes repented. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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A lot of ignorance and lack of understanding. Nguiko has absolutely nothing to do with shithole f***ing. Nah! Anyone else to try and give at least a known African name for shithole f***ers?. I guess not. While at it, it's only gays who are coming out. Football star comes out, musician comes out, popular radio presenter comes out, Sparkly comes out,Wukan comes out, Pastor comes out, just about any known gay has had to come out. Where are they usually coming out from?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,588
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Njunge wrote:A lot of ignorance and lack of understanding. Nguiko has absolutely nothing to do with shithole f***ing. Nah! Anyone else to try and give at least a known African name for shithole f***ers?. I guess not. While at it, it's only gays who are coming out. Football star comes out, musician comes out, popular radio presenter comes out, Sparkly comes out,Wukan comes out, Pastor comes out, just about any known gay has had to come out. Where are they usually coming out from? old geezer you know you are a self-confessed mud f***ker remember that thing of you and some hole in the soil. Yuck!!! it was really disgusting > If you had been taken through nguiko you wouldn't need to mud f**K. But see I don't impose my opinions on you. You and your mud thing is your thing. Let gays have their thing. I love my PYTs nothing beyond 29 and that's me.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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I don't even know how to start getting in this kind of debates because I can't imagine thinking of a guy fondling another guy leave alone... I can't get past the disgust to even start imagining being objective... So I'll stay out of this one. With all these beautiful women, how... BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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hardwood wrote:Tokyo wrote:Some human are just weird and strange. They want now to dictate to others who they should share their private life with. Odd enough even who and how to worship.
Surely even where you live your neighbors and larger community would be greatly offended if you were "to share your private life" with a goat ie beastiality, or if you kept some huge snake or other animal to be worshiping in your own unique rituals. Therefore your personal freedom to love and worship has boundaries which are dictated by strange humans who are called the society. Hapo sasa!
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