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MugundaMan wrote:Extraterrestrial wrote:MugundaMan wrote:Extraterrestrial wrote:MugundaMan wrote:Extraterrestrial wrote:
Bob Collymore died from Acute Myeloid Leukemia (AML), which is a form of blood cancer.
ha ha ha ha ha! Yes, in which case Prince, Binvyanga Wainaina and Freddie Mercury all died of AML as well  I hope you are not one of those people who swallows whatever the media tells them? Actually Bob did an entire interview on his illness. Cancer, whether of the blood, or of the anus, is cancer nonetheless. Dubya also gave an interview where he told ya "EYE-wraq" has WMDs and you believed him too sio?  Ok if you insist. But what would be his motivation for misrepresenting the TYPE of cancer he had? If you were Bob C, "respected" corporate titan, winner of global awards, multi millionaire in dollar terms...etc...would YOU want to admit to the world that you contracted the big mdudu from unsavory backdoor activities with fellow poofters? Kumbe these top-notch corporate niggers are mere buggers. Nothing to show in the kingdom of heaven. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,635
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Angelica _ann wrote:Extraterrestrial wrote:MugundaMan wrote:Extraterrestrial wrote:MugundaMan wrote:Extraterrestrial wrote:
Bob Collymore died from Acute Myeloid Leukemia (AML), which is a form of blood cancer.
ha ha ha ha ha! Yes, in which case Prince, Binvyanga Wainaina and Freddie Mercury all died of AML as well I hope you are not one of those people who swallows whatever the media tells them? Actually Bob did an entire interview on his illness. Cancer, whether of the blood, or of the anus, is cancer nonetheless. Dubya also gave an interview where he told ya "EYE-wraq" has WMDs and you believed him too sio? Ok if you insist. But what would be his motivation for misrepresenting the TYPE of cancer he had? Everyone dies regardless of everything. You can see the desperation when so called believers result to threatening people with death in order to get them to believe in their god. Its all a con, of course. Even the tithe story from the example of JC has been twisted. He said sell all your earthly goods, give the proceeds to the poor and follow me. The new Gospel, according to Pastor Mugandaman and his 'holy' gang, is "sell your belongings and give the proceeds to me." My only surprise is how this transparent BS finds so many takers in Kenya today. We must be addle headed as a people. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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Wakanyugi wrote:
You can see the desperation when so called believers result to threatening people with death in order to get them to believe in their god.
Its all a con, of course. Even the tithe story from the example of JC has been twisted. He said sell all your earthly goods, give the proceeds to the poor and follow me. The new Gospel, according to Pastor Mugandaman and his 'holy' gang, is "sell your belongings and give the proceeds to me."
My only surprise is how this transparent BS finds so many takers in Kenya today. We must be addle headed as a people.
Wakanyugz, We are not threatening you with anything. The Bible itself tells us whoever does not believe in JC is doomed to kwa Shetani when they die. JC Himself has said it many times in Scripture. YOU are the one who has made the choice not to believe (which is sad) so please do not blame Mugundaman, Kanyari, the Pope and "Christians" in general for the tragic choice you seem to have made. By the way, we Christians do not believe we are "holier than thou" ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. We are just like you, the only difference is that we have been forgiven for all sins (even your perceived 'holier than thou/self righteousness sin that you accuse us of) while your sins are not forgiven unless you believe. I know you are skeptic. I used to be you bro. Ya Mungu kweli ni mengi. Just think for a moment. What if when you die, you find out that all you were told about JC and heaven and hell was all true? The good news is that it is never too late for Christ to call you into His Kingdom. While you are still alive you have hope. After death mambo kwisha. Trust me you do not want to end up where kina Carlin and Richard Pryor are. Hio place si mjezo. Shalom.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/29/2008 Posts: 573
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Well,well,well,some of us pray at the Holy Shrine at Kiambuthia in Mt Kenya.
We worship the same way our grandfathers did.The Bible is a colonial tool which
was used by mzungu to colonize us while the other hand had a gun.
And in the process,we lost our land.It is this cause the Mugundaman Pastor,
still armed with a bible is pursuing.He needs land so bad because he
lost the initial land to politcal bucanners in 1963.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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Ali Baba wrote:Well,well,well,some of us pray at the Holy Shrine at Kiambuthia in Mt Kenya.
We worship the same way our grandfathers did.The Bible is a colonial tool which
was used by mzungu to colonize us while the other hand had a gun.
And in the process,we lost our land.It is this cause the Mugundaman Pastor,
still armed with a bible is pursuing.He needs land so bad because he
lost the initial land to politcal bucanners in 1963. Worshiping Satan is your prerogative. Truth is absolute. There is only one Creator who made the world and the Universe in general. All those other "gods" you worship are Satan's offspring FYI JC was not a "mzungu" (descendant of Japheth) - so your theory is bogus. He was a descendant of Shem. Shalom
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MugundaMan wrote:Ali Baba wrote:Well,well,well,some of us pray at the Holy Shrine at Kiambuthia in Mt Kenya.
We worship the same way our grandfathers did.The Bible is a colonial tool which
was used by mzungu to colonize us while the other hand had a gun.
And in the process,we lost our land.It is this cause the Mugundaman Pastor,
still armed with a bible is pursuing.He needs land so bad because he
lost the initial land to politcal bucanners in 1963. Worshiping Satan is your prerogative. Truth is absolute. There is only one Creator who made the world and the Universe in general. All those other "gods" you worship are Satan's offspring FYI JC was not a "mzungu" (descendant of Japheth) - so your theory is bogus. He was a descendant of Shem. Shalom You mean our grandfathers were worshiping Satan?The problem with christianity is the false belief that theirs is the only true religion.Why would God condemn all the muslims? Bhudhists?Hidhus??Why?JC was hebrew.AND jews are not christians.Don't think they are stupid.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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You mean our grandfathers were worshiping Satan?[/quote] You yourself know uchawi, uganga was and is rife in Africa hata sasa. Do you think uchawi is worshiping God. The CHIEF of uchawi is SATAN! Quote:The problem with christianity
is the false belief that theirs is the only true religion. Why would God condemn all the muslims?
Bhudhists?Hidhus??Why?JC was hebrew.AND jews are not christians.Don't think they are stupid.
As I said earlier, truth is absolute. If muslims say the sky is green, Buddhists say it is brown and Atheists say it does not exist, does that invalidate the FACT that the sky is blue? Why are you on JC's calendar (2019 A.D - Anno Domino - In the year of our Lord J.C) if His life, death and resurrection were a myth? These things are not accidents papa. In fact God says you are without excuse if you reject His Son: "For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." and "In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.” -Nobody before or after ever performed the miracles JC performed, and we are told they were to show that He was indeed God's Son. JC was indeed Hebrew but in case you did not know, He condemned Hebrews for not believing in Him Bottom line God has spoken through the life and death of His Son and if you choose to reject God's Son who will you blame but yourself? Shalom
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MugundaMan wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:
You can see the desperation when so called believers result to threatening people with death in order to get them to believe in their god.
Its all a con, of course. Even the tithe story from the example of JC has been twisted. He said sell all your earthly goods, give the proceeds to the poor and follow me. The new Gospel, according to Pastor Mugandaman and his 'holy' gang, is "sell your belongings and give the proceeds to me."
My only surprise is how this transparent BS finds so many takers in Kenya today. We must be addle headed as a people.
Wakanyugz, We are not threatening you with anything. The Bible itself tells us whoever does not believe in JC is doomed to kwa Shetani when they die. JC Himself has said it many times in Scripture. YOU are the one who has made the choice not to believe (which is sad) so please do not blame Mugundaman, Kanyari, the Pope and "Christians" in general for the tragic choice you seem to have made. By the way, we Christians do not believe we are "holier than thou" ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. We are just like you, the only difference is that we have been forgiven for all sins (even your perceived 'holier than thou/self righteousness sin that you accuse us of) while your sins are not forgiven unless you believe. I know you are skeptic. I used to be you bro. Ya Mungu kweli ni mengi. Just think for a moment. What if when you die, you find out that all you were told about JC and heaven and hell was all true? T Shalom. What I have read about JC is that God cares for all his creation, period. Yaani habangui. What I hear about JC, mostly from your pastors and other fellow middle men, is that God practices apartheid. He will only save you if you: pay him money (tithe), roast him nyama choma (sacrifice) beg him (pray) or stroke his ego (worship and sing) preferably daily or at least once a week. Yaani he is so insecure that, according to your calculus above, he will condemn three quarters of humanity simply because they have failed to believe in him. That does not sound like a guy I want to spend eternity with. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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Wakanyugi wrote:
What I have read about JC is that God cares for all his creation, period. Yaani habangui.
What I hear about JC, mostly from your pastors and other fellow middle men, is that God practices apartheid. He will only save you if you: pay him money (tithe), roast him nyama choma (sacrifice) beg him (pray) or stroke his ego (worship and sing) preferably daily or at least once a week.
Yaani he is so insecure that, according to your calculus above, he will condemn three quarters of humanity simply because they have failed to believe in him.
That does not sound like a guy I want to spend eternity with.
Wakanyugz you are still stuck in a logical fallacy. You are blaming God for the sins of men yet God Himself preaches against those sins! Where did God say He will only save you if you pay Him money? And please do not answer by quoting false prophets like Kanyari (who God again, condemns and warns against). Saying you do not believe in JC because your neighbour is a fake pastor false prophet demanding money for you to get into heaven is the funniest of thinkings. Shalom.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/29/2008 Posts: 573
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The purpose of Wazua is to have serious talk about wealth.
I was just about to call this topic as out of order on
wealth creation,but I paused after realizing that to
Mugundaman,a pastor,there is serious wealth creation in
relation to Christianity.What we are doing arguing with him
is actually -- like in Warren Buffett analogy,we are like the client
asking a barber whether to have a haircut.Mugundaman
makes his money from tithes,which he later invests in Shamba
and then comes to gloat to his flock like N'gang'a of Neno Ministries.
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