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Housing Finance: HFCK a diamond in the rough
Ericsson
#1921 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2019 10:51:49 AM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Loss of ksh.95mn in HY2019

Very big improvement, but that information needs a link verification. Seems too good to be true


Loss of ksh.94.314mn
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#1922 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2019 10:53:22 AM
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McGill wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Loss of ksh.95mn in HY2019


Where did you get this?


Confirmed Loss of ksh.94.314mn
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#1923 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2019 11:43:14 PM
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Back from the dead?

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Angelica _ann
#1924 Posted : Saturday, September 07, 2019 6:58:08 PM
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Looks like some good work going on after Ireri left.


HF reduces bad loans by Sh2bn in 6 months


https://www.businessdail...262568-3lx2lp/index.html
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
cyruskulei
#1925 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2019 2:49:16 PM
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Posts: 320
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[quote=Angelica _ann]Looks like some good work going on after Ireri left.


HF reduces bad loans by Sh2bn in 6 months


https://www.businessdail...62568-3lx2lp/index.html[/quote]


Demand is building up on this counter. I dont know if there are some good news coming? Any one with info
Work hard at your job and you can make a living. Work hard on yourself and you can make a fortune.

Wakanyugi
#1926 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:23:48 AM
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Joined: 7/3/2007
Posts: 1,634
cyruskulei wrote:
[quote=Angelica _ann]Looks like some good work going on after Ireri left.


HF reduces bad loans by Sh2bn in 6 months


https://www.businessdail...62568-3lx2lp/index.html[/quote]


Demand is building up on this counter. I dont know if there are some good news coming? Any one with info


Cleaning up the loan book etc?

Looks to me like preparation for a sale or merger.

HFCK is a good candidate, say for large retail bank looking to beef up its mortgage function.

Meba are you listening?
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Ericsson
#1927 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:29:07 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,628
Location: NAIROBI
Wakanyugi wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
[quote=Angelica _ann]Looks like some good work going on after Ireri left.


HF reduces bad loans by Sh2bn in 6 months


https://www.businessdail...62568-3lx2lp/index.html[/quote]


Demand is building up on this counter. I dont know if there are some good news coming? Any one with info


Cleaning up the loan book etc?

Looks to me like preparation for a sale or merger.

HFCK is a good candidate, say for large retail bank looking to beef up its mortgage function.

Meba are you listening?

Meba not interested,was once there.
Co-op might be a good candidate to snap it.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Angelica _ann
#1928 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2019 11:10:12 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,901
Ericsson wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
[quote=Angelica _ann]Looks like some good work going on after Ireri left.


HF reduces bad loans by Sh2bn in 6 months


https://www.businessdail...62568-3lx2lp/index.html[/quote]


Demand is building up on this counter. I dont know if there are some good news coming? Any one with info


Cleaning up the loan book etc?

Looks to me like preparation for a sale or merger.

HFCK is a good candidate, say for large retail bank looking to beef up its mortgage function.

Meba are you listening?

Meba not interested,was once there.
Co-op might be a good candidate to snap it.


Coop, with its governance and management structure, don't think would go for mortgage business full throttle. They are abit conservative to me , bordering on docile. They seem to be in some comfort zone. Of course Giddi's vision prevails x100.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Wakanyugi
#1929 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:03:23 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 7/3/2007
Posts: 1,634
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
[quote=Angelica _ann]Looks like some good work going on after Ireri left.


HF reduces bad loans by Sh2bn in 6 months


https://www.businessdail...62568-3lx2lp/index.html[/quote]


Demand is building up on this counter. I dont know if there are some good news coming? Any one with info


Cleaning up the loan book etc?

Looks to me like preparation for a sale or merger.

HFCK is a good candidate, say for large retail bank looking to beef up its mortgage function.

Meba are you listening?

Meba not interested,was once there.
Co-op might be a good candidate to snap it.


Coop, with its governance and management structure, don't think would go for mortgage business full throttle. They are abit conservative to me , bordering on docile. They seem to be in some comfort zone. Of course Giddi's vision prevails x100.


Then it is likely to be an overseas bank, ala SBM. With licence issuing frozen, this is the only way for a multinational bank to enter the local market.

Unless Diamond Trust finds the appetite?
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
whiteowl
#1930 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2019 5:21:26 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 4/16/2014
Posts: 1,420
Location: Bohemian Grove
Wakanyugi wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
[quote=Angelica _ann]Looks like some good work going on after Ireri left.


HF reduces bad loans by Sh2bn in 6 months


https://www.businessdail...62568-3lx2lp/index.html[/quote]


Demand is building up on this counter. I dont know if there are some good news coming? Any one with info


Cleaning up the loan book etc?

Looks to me like preparation for a sale or merger.

HFCK is a good candidate, say for large retail bank looking to beef up its mortgage function.

Meba are you listening?

Meba not interested,was once there.
Co-op might be a good candidate to snap it.


Coop, with its governance and management structure, don't think would go for mortgage business full throttle. They are abit conservative to me , bordering on docile. They seem to be in some comfort zone. Of course Giddi's vision prevails x100.


Then it is likely to be an overseas bank, ala SBM. With licence issuing frozen, this is the only way for a multinational bank to enter the local market.

Unless Diamond Trust finds the appetite?


I get abit suspicious when a company that was going down the drain suddenly starts pumping out good news.Maybe I've been in the NSE for far too long.
VituVingiSana
#1931 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2019 5:26:14 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,039
Location: Nairobi
Wakanyugi wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
[quote=Angelica _ann]Looks like some good work going on after Ireri left.


HF reduces bad loans by Sh2bn in 6 months


https://www.businessdail...62568-3lx2lp/index.html[/quote]


Demand is building up on this counter. I dont know if there are some good news coming? Any one with info


Cleaning up the loan book etc?

Looks to me like preparation for a sale or merger.

HFCK is a good candidate, say for large retail bank looking to beef up its mortgage function.

Meba are you listening?

Meba not interested,was once there.
Co-op might be a good candidate to snap it.


Coop, with its governance and management structure, don't think would go for mortgage business full throttle. They are abit conservative to me , bordering on docile. They seem to be in some comfort zone. Of course Giddi's vision prevails x100.


Then it is likely to be an overseas bank, ala SBM. With licence issuing frozen, this is the only way for a multinational bank to enter the local market.

Unless Diamond Trust finds the appetite?

Can the DTB & HFCK culture easily mesh?
SBM is still digesting Chase. Does it really want to take another bank with dirty books? Unless it is a 100% buyout, why deal with 1000s of shareholders?

Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#1932 Posted : Wednesday, September 18, 2019 12:55:17 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,628
Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
[quote=Angelica _ann]Looks like some good work going on after Ireri left.


HF reduces bad loans by Sh2bn in 6 months


https://www.businessdail...62568-3lx2lp/index.html[/quote]


Demand is building up on this counter. I dont know if there are some good news coming? Any one with info


Cleaning up the loan book etc?

Looks to me like preparation for a sale or merger.

HFCK is a good candidate, say for large retail bank looking to beef up its mortgage function.

Meba are you listening?

Meba not interested,was once there.
Co-op might be a good candidate to snap it.


Coop, with its governance and management structure, don't think would go for mortgage business full throttle. They are abit conservative to me , bordering on docile. They seem to be in some comfort zone. Of course Giddi's vision prevails x100.


Then it is likely to be an overseas bank, ala SBM. With licence issuing frozen, this is the only way for a multinational bank to enter the local market.

Unless Diamond Trust finds the appetite?

Can the DTB & HFCK culture easily mesh?
SBM is still digesting Chase. Does it really want to take another bank with dirty books? Unless it is a 100% buyout, why deal with 1000s of shareholders?


Acquisition of HFCK will most likely be a 100% buyout that will lead to delisting
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#1933 Posted : Wednesday, September 18, 2019 9:11:42 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,464
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
[quote=Angelica _ann]Looks like some good work going on after Ireri left.


HF reduces bad loans by Sh2bn in 6 months


https://www.businessdail...62568-3lx2lp/index.html[/quote]


Demand is building up on this counter. I dont know if there are some good news coming? Any one with info


Cleaning up the loan book etc?

Looks to me like preparation for a sale or merger.

HFCK is a good candidate, say for large retail bank looking to beef up its mortgage function.

Meba are you listening?

Meba not interested,was once there.
Co-op might be a good candidate to snap it.


Coop, with its governance and management structure, don't think would go for mortgage business full throttle. They are abit conservative to me , bordering on docile. They seem to be in some comfort zone. Of course Giddi's vision prevails x100.


Then it is likely to be an overseas bank, ala SBM. With licence issuing frozen, this is the only way for a multinational bank to enter the local market.

Unless Diamond Trust finds the appetite?

Can the DTB & HFCK culture easily mesh?
SBM is still digesting Chase. Does it really want to take another bank with dirty books? Unless it is a 100% buyout, why deal with 1000s of shareholders?


Acquisition of HFCK will most likely be a 100% buyout that will lead to delisting

It doesn’t seem like a fully distressed bank going by its bond repayment record

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
cyruskulei
#1934 Posted : Wednesday, September 18, 2019 9:44:20 AM
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Joined: 3/9/2010
Posts: 320
Location: kenya
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
[quote=Angelica _ann]Looks like some good work going on after Ireri left.


HF reduces bad loans by Sh2bn in 6 months


https://www.businessdail...62568-3lx2lp/index.html[/quote]


Demand is building up on this counter. I dont know if there are some good news coming? Any one with info


Cleaning up the loan book etc?

Looks to me like preparation for a sale or merger.

HFCK is a good candidate, say for large retail bank looking to beef up its mortgage function.

Meba are you listening?

Meba not interested,was once there.
Co-op might be a good candidate to snap it.


Coop, with its governance and management structure, don't think would go for mortgage business full throttle. They are abit conservative to me , bordering on docile. They seem to be in some comfort zone. Of course Giddi's vision prevails x100.


Then it is likely to be an overseas bank, ala SBM. With licence issuing frozen, this is the only way for a multinational bank to enter the local market.

Unless Diamond Trust finds the appetite?

Can the DTB & HFCK culture easily mesh?
SBM is still digesting Chase. Does it really want to take another bank with dirty books? Unless it is a 100% buyout, why deal with 1000s of shareholders?


Acquisition of HFCK will most likely be a 100% buyout that will lead to delisting

It doesn’t seem like a fully distressed bank going by its bond repayment record


There are lots of possibilities on this counter. Remember they created recently 500m new ordinary shares. They could be up for grabs to the best investor.
Work hard at your job and you can make a living. Work hard on yourself and you can make a fortune.

obiero
#1935 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2019 4:05:52 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,464
Location: nairobi
cyruskulei wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
[quote=Angelica _ann]Looks like some good work going on after Ireri left.


HF reduces bad loans by Sh2bn in 6 months


https://www.businessdail...62568-3lx2lp/index.html[/quote]


Demand is building up on this counter. I dont know if there are some good news coming? Any one with info


Cleaning up the loan book etc?

Looks to me like preparation for a sale or merger.

HFCK is a good candidate, say for large retail bank looking to beef up its mortgage function.

Meba are you listening?

Meba not interested,was once there.
Co-op might be a good candidate to snap it.


Coop, with its governance and management structure, don't think would go for mortgage business full throttle. They are abit conservative to me , bordering on docile. They seem to be in some comfort zone. Of course Giddi's vision prevails x100.


Then it is likely to be an overseas bank, ala SBM. With licence issuing frozen, this is the only way for a multinational bank to enter the local market.

Unless Diamond Trust finds the appetite?

Can the DTB & HFCK culture easily mesh?
SBM is still digesting Chase. Does it really want to take another bank with dirty books? Unless it is a 100% buyout, why deal with 1000s of shareholders?


Acquisition of HFCK will most likely be a 100% buyout that will lead to delisting

It doesn’t seem like a fully distressed bank going by its bond repayment record


There are lots of possibilities on this counter. Remember they created recently 500m new ordinary shares. They could be up for grabs to the best investor.

A rally building up. If only they report a profit in Q3 then sky is the new floor

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Spikes
#1936 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2019 9:32:56 PM
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Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
obiero wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
[quote=Angelica _ann]Looks like some good work going on after Ireri left.


HF reduces bad loans by Sh2bn in 6 months


https://www.businessdail...62568-3lx2lp/index.html[/quote]


Demand is building up on this counter. I dont know if there are some good news coming? Any one with info


Cleaning up the loan book etc?

Looks to me like preparation for a sale or merger.

HFCK is a good candidate, say for large retail bank looking to beef up its mortgage function.

Meba are you listening?

Meba not interested,was once there.
Co-op might be a good candidate to snap it.


Coop, with its governance and management structure, don't think would go for mortgage business full throttle. They are abit conservative to me , bordering on docile. They seem to be in some comfort zone. Of course Giddi's vision prevails x100.


Then it is likely to be an overseas bank, ala SBM. With licence issuing frozen, this is the only way for a multinational bank to enter the local market.

Unless Diamond Trust finds the appetite?

Can the DTB & HFCK culture easily mesh?
SBM is still digesting Chase. Does it really want to take another bank with dirty books? Unless it is a 100% buyout, why deal with 1000s of shareholders?


Acquisition of HFCK will most likely be a 100% buyout that will lead to delisting

It doesn’t seem like a fully distressed bank going by its bond repayment record


There are lots of possibilities on this counter. Remember they created recently 500m new ordinary shares. They could be up for grabs to the best investor.

A rally building up. If only they report a profit in Q3 then sky is the new floor

What is exchange bar whispering?
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
subaru
#1937 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2019 12:00:50 AM
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Posts: 391
Location: nairobie
Let's wait and see
Spikes
#1938 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2019 10:20:23 AM
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Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
obiero wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
[quote=Angelica _ann]Looks like some good work going on after Ireri left.


HF reduces bad loans by Sh2bn in 6 months


https://www.businessdail...62568-3lx2lp/index.html[/quote]


Demand is building up on this counter. I dont know if there are some good news coming? Any one with info


Cleaning up the loan book etc?

Looks to me like preparation for a sale or merger.

HFCK is a good candidate, say for large retail bank looking to beef up its mortgage function.

Meba are you listening?

Meba not interested,was once there.
Co-op might be a good candidate to snap it.


Coop, with its governance and management structure, don't think would go for mortgage business full throttle. They are abit conservative to me , bordering on docile. They seem to be in some comfort zone. Of course Giddi's vision prevails x100.


Then it is likely to be an overseas bank, ala SBM. With licence issuing frozen, this is the only way for a multinational bank to enter the local market.

Unless Diamond Trust finds the appetite?

Can the DTB & HFCK culture easily mesh?
SBM is still digesting Chase. Does it really want to take another bank with dirty books? Unless it is a 100% buyout, why deal with 1000s of shareholders?


Acquisition of HFCK will most likely be a 100% buyout that will lead to delisting

It doesn’t seem like a fully distressed bank going by its bond repayment record


There are lots of possibilities on this counter. Remember they created recently 500m new ordinary shares. They could be up for grabs to the best investor.

A rally building up. If only they report a profit in Q3 then sky is the new floor


WARNING: It could be the last nail on the casket after final rites by the usual morticians. Nothing to celebrate here. Those who have made some money on this last rally dump and run & run.
#Bitcoin is the safest haven right now.smile smile smile
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
snifadog
#1939 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2019 2:00:19 PM
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Joined: 6/6/2016
Posts: 165
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
[quote=Angelica _ann]Looks like some good work going on after Ireri left.


HF reduces bad loans by Sh2bn in 6 months


https://www.businessdail...62568-3lx2lp/index.html[/quote]


Demand is building up on this counter. I dont know if there are some good news coming? Any one with info


Cleaning up the loan book etc?

Looks to me like preparation for a sale or merger.

HFCK is a good candidate, say for large retail bank looking to beef up its mortgage function.

Meba are you listening?

Meba not interested,was once there.
Co-op might be a good candidate to snap it.


Coop, with its governance and management structure, don't think would go for mortgage business full throttle. They are abit conservative to me , bordering on docile. They seem to be in some comfort zone. Of course Giddi's vision prevails x100.


Then it is likely to be an overseas bank, ala SBM. With licence issuing frozen, this is the only way for a multinational bank to enter the local market.

Unless Diamond Trust finds the appetite?

Can the DTB & HFCK culture easily mesh?
SBM is still digesting Chase. Does it really want to take another bank with dirty books? Unless it is a 100% buyout, why deal with 1000s of shareholders?


Acquisition of HFCK will most likely be a 100% buyout that will lead to delisting

It doesn’t seem like a fully distressed bank going by its bond repayment record


There are lots of possibilities on this counter. Remember they created recently 500m new ordinary shares. They could be up for grabs to the best investor.

A rally building up. If only they report a profit in Q3 then sky is the new floor


@obiero, your obsession with junk counters is worrying. Have you not learnt anything from KQ? Steer clear of zombies on the NSE
obiero
#1940 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2019 4:21:44 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,464
Location: nairobi
snifadog wrote:
obiero wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
[quote=Angelica _ann]Looks like some good work going on after Ireri left.


HF reduces bad loans by Sh2bn in 6 months


https://www.businessdail...62568-3lx2lp/index.html[/quote]


Demand is building up on this counter. I dont know if there are some good news coming? Any one with info


Cleaning up the loan book etc?

Looks to me like preparation for a sale or merger.

HFCK is a good candidate, say for large retail bank looking to beef up its mortgage function.

Meba are you listening?

Meba not interested,was once there.
Co-op might be a good candidate to snap it.

Coop, with its governance and management structure, don't think would go for mortgage business full throttle. They are abit conservative to me , bordering on docile. They seem to be in some comfort zone. Of course Giddi's vision prevails x100.
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Then it is likely to be an overseas bank, ala SBM. With licence issuing frozen, this is the only way for a multinational bank to enter the local market.

Unless Diamond Trust finds the appetite?

Can the DTB & HFCK culture easily mesh?
SBM is still digesting Chase. Does it really want to take another bank with dirty books? Unless it is a 100% buyout, why deal with 1000s of shareholders?


Acquisition of HFCK will most likely be a 100% buyout that will lead to delisting

It doesn’t seem like a fully distressed bank going by its bond repayment record


There are lots of possibilities on this counter. Remember they created recently 500m new ordinary shares. They could be up for grabs to the best investor.

A rally building up. If only they report a profit in Q3 then sky is the new floor


@obiero, your obsession with junk counters is worrying. Have you not learnt anything from KQ? Steer clear of zombies on the NSE

I don’t have much to learn but to teach. Turnaround stocks make some people wealthy. It has happened in Kenya, in Africa, globally. It’s not a strategy for everyone, so I excuse your tantrum

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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