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the deal		#61 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2019 3:23:27 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery		Looks like bad results already baked into share price...
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obiero		#62 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2019 6:15:54 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,213 Location: nairobi		the deal wrote: Looks like bad results already baked into share price... Absolutely! A price recovery could happen.. Not likely, but possible KQ ABP 4.26
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Spikes		#63 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2019 12:19:50 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa		obiero wrote: the deal wrote: Looks like bad results already baked into share price... Absolutely! A price recovery could happen.. Not likely, but possible Even if you want to participate riding in the purportedly price recovery which may never happen very soon you as a person @obiero I assure you will remain a loser because your ABP is monumental.Averaging down alone to bring price to around KES 4.50 will cost you a fortune chasing a monkey! I always insist #watch and unlearn your current trading strategies. Things @obiero and crew MUST unlearn about KQ to stay synchronized in NSE profit making: 1.that The Pride of Africa is too big to fail because of government bailouts and guarantees. Government involvement has never stopped share price from dropping down like a rotten egg. 2. that loose change after the cost of Boeing 777 or 787 engine can buy NSE monkey MSC . How is this kind of reasoning adding value on KQ financial performance? 3. that there is a likelihood of a jump in revenue growth and KQ has potential of over KES 100bn revenue...this is very risk because analyzing one element in the profit equation is vague 4. that the chairman of the board is no-nonsense MJ...Yes he can be a genius but the competition in aviation industry is global and telcos is mostly local 5. that big boys are trapped inside therefore I am not alone...this can not be a trading strategy. KQLC were caught unawares and were forced to carry a cross of others[KQ poor management] John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Impunity		#64 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2019 3:55:14 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada		"We watch in code" as sub 2bob comes our way. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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obiero		#65 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2019 4:43:40 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,213 Location: nairobi		Spikes wrote: obiero wrote: the deal wrote: Looks like bad results already baked into share price... Absolutely! A price recovery could happen.. Not likely, but possible Even if you want to participate riding in the purportedly price recovery which may never happen very soon you as a person @obiero I assure you will remain a loser because your ABP is monumental.Averaging down alone to bring price to around KES 4.50 will cost you a fortune chasing a monkey! I always insist #watch and unlearn your current trading strategies. Things @obiero and crew MUST unlearn about KQ to stay synchronized in NSE profit making: 1.that The Pride of Africa is too big to fail because of government bailouts and guarantees. Government involvement has never stopped share price from dropping down like a rotten egg. 2. that loose change after the cost of Boeing 777 or 787 engine can buy NSE monkey MSC . How is this kind of reasoning adding value on KQ financial performance? 3. that there is a likelihood of a jump in revenue growth and KQ has potential of over KES 100bn revenue...this is very risk because analyzing one element in the profit equation is vague 4. that the chairman of the board is no-nonsense MJ...Yes he can be a genius but the competition in aviation industry is global and telcos is mostly local 5. that big boys are trapped inside therefore I am not alone...this can not be a trading strategy. KQLC were caught unawares and were forced to carry a cross of others[KQ poor management] I will average down because I do have the money, which apparently is my own money 1. KQ is too big to fail and that's why GoK has given it time, attention, massive resources 2. It's a fact that KQ has monumental expensive assets 3. Turnover for KQ has been growing thus supporting the turnaround journey 4. Management is everything! In a local kiosk or multinational 5. Big boys will always support funding.. Look at past cash calls KQ ABP 4.26
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nairobby		#66 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2019 8:52:41 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 1/18/2019 Posts: 185 Location: kenya		obiero wrote: Spikes wrote: obiero wrote: the deal wrote: Looks like bad results already baked into share price... Absolutely! A price recovery could happen.. Not likely, but possible Even if you want to participate riding in the purportedly price recovery which may never happen very soon you as a person @obiero I assure you will remain a loser because your ABP is monumental.Averaging down alone to bring price to around KES 4.50 will cost you a fortune chasing a monkey! I always insist #watch and unlearn your current trading strategies. Things @obiero and crew MUST unlearn about KQ to stay synchronized in NSE profit making: 1.that The Pride of Africa is too big to fail because of government bailouts and guarantees. Government involvement has never stopped share price from dropping down like a rotten egg. 2. that loose change after the cost of Boeing 777 or 787 engine can buy NSE monkey MSC . How is this kind of reasoning adding value on KQ financial performance? 3. that there is a likelihood of a jump in revenue growth and KQ has potential of over KES 100bn revenue...this is very risk because analyzing one element in the profit equation is vague 4. that the chairman of the board is no-nonsense MJ...Yes he can be a genius but the competition in aviation industry is global and telcos is mostly local 5. that big boys are trapped inside therefore I am not alone...this can not be a trading strategy. KQLC were caught unawares and were forced to carry a cross of others[KQ poor management] I will average down because I do have the money, which apparently is my own money 1. KQ is too big to fail and that's why GoK has given it time, attention, massive resources 2. It's a fact that KQ has monumental expensive assets 3. Turnover for KQ has been growing thus supporting the turnaround journey 4. Management is everything! In a local kiosk or multinational 5. Big boys will always support funding.. Look at past cash calls Good luck @Obiero, terribly wrong move but I wish you all the best.
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Spikes		#67 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2019 9:01:04 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa		sparkly wrote: Spikes wrote: obiero wrote: chiaroscuro wrote: There are two ways to value a company: 1] what it owns versus what it owes - net assets 2] What it earns and what it CAN earn in future - current AND future profits Why would anyone in their right mind buy a company that owes more than it owns, isn't making profit and has no promise of ever becoming profitable? Now I know why they say that common sense is not very common! True. Its odd for anyone in right senses to claim that a firm that once obtained annual profit in excess of KES 6B; has no promise of ever becoming profitable Most young investors are tired of a long wait and hoping things will be ok. Eti hope pia ni strategy tuliachia wazee pamoja na hiyo long wait. @Spikes, this has nothing to do with age. We the elders are also disappointed in @Obiero's code speak. However, we follow the African code which states that an elder should not be caned in public, infront of children and women. I assure you that we will convene soon and summon @Obiero for discipline. Chastise @obiero coz he is embarrassing Wazua elders and if the trend continues he will become a disgrace to his family and those who take him seriously to buy KQ stock. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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obiero		#68 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2019 10:15:13 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,213 Location: nairobi		Spikes wrote: sparkly wrote: Spikes wrote: obiero wrote: chiaroscuro wrote: There are two ways to value a company: 1] what it owns versus what it owes - net assets 2] What it earns and what it CAN earn in future - current AND future profits Why would anyone in their right mind buy a company that owes more than it owns, isn't making profit and has no promise of ever becoming profitable? Now I know why they say that common sense is not very common! True. Its odd for anyone in right senses to claim that a firm that once obtained annual profit in excess of KES 6B; has no promise of ever becoming profitable Most young investors are tired of a long wait and hoping things will be ok. Eti hope pia ni strategy tuliachia wazee pamoja na hiyo long wait. @Spikes, this has nothing to do with age. We the elders are also disappointed in @Obiero's code speak. However, we follow the African code which states that an elder should not be caned in public, infront of children and women. I assure you that we will convene soon and summon @Obiero for discipline. Chastise @obiero coz he is embarrassing Wazua elders and if the trend continues he will become a disgrace to his family and those who take him seriously to buy KQ stock. I'm your father young man. I brought you into the world via nocturnal activity with you mother. You have no option but to respect me. Note that I have asked no one to buy KQ but I choose to be a shareholder in it, you cannot guide me in my choice. Simply give an alternative view and leave it there, you clown.. KQ ABP 4.26
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Spikes		#69 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2019 10:27:19 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa		obiero wrote: Spikes wrote: sparkly wrote: Spikes wrote: obiero wrote: chiaroscuro wrote: There are two ways to value a company: 1] what it owns versus what it owes - net assets 2] What it earns and what it CAN earn in future - current AND future profits Why would anyone in their right mind buy a company that owes more than it owns, isn't making profit and has no promise of ever becoming profitable? Now I know why they say that common sense is not very common! True. Its odd for anyone in right senses to claim that a firm that once obtained annual profit in excess of KES 6B; has no promise of ever becoming profitable Most young investors are tired of a long wait and hoping things will be ok. Eti hope pia ni strategy tuliachia wazee pamoja na hiyo long wait. @Spikes, this has nothing to do with age. We the elders are also disappointed in @Obiero's code speak. However, we follow the African code which states that an elder should not be caned in public, infront of children and women. I assure you that we will convene soon and summon @Obiero for discipline. Chastise @obiero coz he is embarrassing Wazua elders and if the trend continues he will become a disgrace to his family and those who take him seriously to buy KQ stock. I'm your father young man. I brought you into the world via nocturnal activity with you mother. You have no option but to respect me. Note that I have asked no one to buy KQ but I choose to be a shareholder in it, you cannot guide me in my choice. Simply give an alternative view and leave it there, you clown.. Today there 1% jump in share price after a dip following the announcement of deplorable financial performance. @obiero can not refuse to call a spade a big spoon after dead cat bounce! Add more KQ stock @obiero...You will miss out in the upcoming circus rally. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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muandiwambeu		#70 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2019 10:35:15 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247		sparkly wrote: chiaroscuro wrote: There are two ways to value a company: 1] what it owns versus what it owes - net assets 2] What it earns and what it CAN earn in future - current AND future profits Why would anyone in their right mind buy a company that owes more than it owns, isn't making profit and has no promise of ever becoming profitable? Now I know why they say that common sense is not very common! 3] trading price of companies with comparable performance. In case of KQ, listed companies in losses, negative equity and cashflows are trading circa 50 cents. Sure, and the only perplexing thing is that @obiero is waiting for the bird to land properly to average down vigorously and courageously 😂. At times a captain do jettsion his ship if it is a definite situation of everyman for himself and God for us all, a golden window to eject but running out quite fast. 4) knowledge of the lead choirmaster of the company and his near past track record. ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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