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M-Akiba treasury bonds via mobile
chiaroscuro
#381 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2019 11:56:34 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
New tranche, M-Akiba bond; amount Kshs 500 million for infrastructure development. Tenor 3 years, coupon 10%pa payable semi-annually.

Max amount 140,000 mpesa, 999,999 pesalink


Is it a re-open or a new bond?

Has anyone seen the official announcement? If yes, please post it here.
murchr
#382 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2019 3:12:46 PM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
New tranche, M-Akiba bond; amount Kshs 500 million for infrastructure development. Tenor 3 years, coupon 10%pa payable semi-annually.

Max amount 140,000 mpesa, 999,999 pesalink


Is it a re-open or a new bond?

Has anyone seen the official announcement? If yes, please post it here.


Stop being lazy and search on the net. Ama uwache
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Impunity
#383 Posted : Monday, August 26, 2019 5:54:35 PM
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shadowinvestor wrote:
Pesa link doesn't work, you are here sending cash daily to get 1mio- Useless system. it only works if you are investing kidogo cash


A truly asshole.
Just how do you mpesa say 10M?
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wukan
#384 Posted : Tuesday, August 27, 2019 2:07:53 PM
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Interesting to see how Wanjiku is broke and dumb

https://www.businessdail...0006-9ul137z/index.html

Quote:
“The structure of M-Akiba uptake has about 68 percent of Kenyans taking up bonds worth between Sh3,000 and Sh20,000, while 24 percent of the investors bought bonds worth between Sh20,001 to Sh100,000, and the remaining eight percent invested above Sh100,000,” said CDSC.


@maka, explain this tweet from @geonal to Wanjiku

Quote:
So, the M-Akiba bond unit sells for 1.0382 plus settlement fees today...If Kes 10,000 earns 10% per year, it means the net income is 1000 less 420ish, which is KES 580 per year, before withdrawal fees? You give away money for a whole year to get 5.5.%? Lower than inflation.
NewMoney
#385 Posted : Tuesday, August 27, 2019 2:39:29 PM
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Location: Nairobi
wukan wrote:
Interesting to see how Wanjiku is broke and dumb

https://www.businessdail...0006-9ul137z/index.html

Quote:
“The structure of M-Akiba uptake has about 68 percent of Kenyans taking up bonds worth between Sh3,000 and Sh20,000, while 24 percent of the investors bought bonds worth between Sh20,001 to Sh100,000, and the remaining eight percent invested above Sh100,000,” said CDSC.


@maka, explain this tweet from @geonal to Wanjiku

Quote:
So, the M-Akiba bond unit sells for 1.0382 plus settlement fees today...If Kes 10,000 earns 10% per year, it means the net income is 1000 less 420ish, which is KES 580 per year, before withdrawal fees? You give away money for a whole year to get 5.5.%? Lower than inflation.


Lower than inflation but better than keeping it in a bank account. Anyway, they should probably just go for fixed deposit accounts
tandich
#386 Posted : Tuesday, August 27, 2019 3:14:31 PM
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Posts: 199
wukan wrote:
Interesting to see how Wanjiku is broke and dumb

https://www.businessdail...0006-9ul137z/index.html

Quote:
“The structure of M-Akiba uptake has about 68 percent of Kenyans taking up bonds worth between Sh3,000 and Sh20,000, while 24 percent of the investors bought bonds worth between Sh20,001 to Sh100,000, and the remaining eight percent invested above Sh100,000,” said CDSC.


@maka, explain this tweet from @geonal to Wanjiku

Quote:
So, the M-Akiba bond unit sells for 1.0382 plus settlement fees today...If Kes 10,000 earns 10% per year, it means the net income is 1000 less 420ish, which is KES 580 per year, before withdrawal fees? You give away money for a whole year to get 5.5.%? Lower than inflation.


I've gone ahead and checked and this was the result. Unless the guy was buying in the secondary market. Perhaps that's the dirty price.


maka
#387 Posted : Tuesday, August 27, 2019 4:53:59 PM
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tandich wrote:
wukan wrote:
Interesting to see how Wanjiku is broke and dumb

https://www.businessdail...0006-9ul137z/index.html

Quote:
“The structure of M-Akiba uptake has about 68 percent of Kenyans taking up bonds worth between Sh3,000 and Sh20,000, while 24 percent of the investors bought bonds worth between Sh20,001 to Sh100,000, and the remaining eight percent invested above Sh100,000,” said CDSC.


@maka, explain this tweet from @geonal to Wanjiku

Quote:
So, the M-Akiba bond unit sells for 1.0382 plus settlement fees today...If Kes 10,000 earns 10% per year, it means the net income is 1000 less 420ish, which is KES 580 per year, before withdrawal fees? You give away money for a whole year to get 5.5.%? Lower than inflation.


I've gone ahead and checked and this was the result. Unless the guy was buying in the secondary market. Perhaps that's the dirty price.




Yep that's dirty price...
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chiaroscuro
#388 Posted : Wednesday, August 28, 2019 10:51:48 AM
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BTW: You're better off buy secondary instead of re-open3
Muthawamunene
#389 Posted : Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:52:01 AM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
BTW: You're better off buy secondary instead of re-open3

Why? Please explain
sumuni
#390 Posted : Saturday, August 31, 2019 10:57:37 AM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
BTW: You're better off buy secondary instead of re-open3

How's buying at, let's say 1.03987 per unit better than buying the unit at 1.00000??
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