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This document is for those who doubt that lesbian, gay and transgender will be taught in schools. Check page 61/62 https://www.google.com/u...&cshid=1566377651242They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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Do not underestimate the power of teaching and society to change ones sexual beliefs. I know someone who went to France as a student for 1 year. When she left Kenya, she was looking for a boyfriend. After being in France, having a lesbian room mate, transgender friends, now she would not mind a female sexual partner. They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:radiomast wrote:Many western countries don't have national exams for entry into high school. The reason it works for them is because students get automatic entry into the school that is in their neighbourhood. So for example if you live in Lavington then you get automatic entry into Patch or Kabz. If you live at Laini saba then you get automatic entry into Shadrack Kimalel. And if you live near Thompson falls then you attend Ndururumo secondary.
That system leaves very little room for corruption and inefficiency. Residents of a location take pride in their local school and they work with the school boards and teachers to improve their schools. Their local property taxes go towards improving the school. So if you want a good school system then you must be willing to pay high property taxes.
if there are no national exams then Kenya may have to scrap national schools and leave it to local school boards to improve their schools. Because otherwise there is no objective criteria for determining who can join a national school This is what we need to implement in Kenya for our education system to get to the next level. Exams should be for assessment only and not for placement in preferred schools. The practice of competing for basic education creates a culture of scarcity which endures throughout our lives. The government should introduce schools zoning for basic education, and then divest from universities and let them be run without govt interference. The input of the govt in education should end at standard setting and funding. Teachers should also be directly employed by schools complimented maybe by local govt and not by the PSC. Umedunga point kweli kweli. Guys get your head out of the school competition thing; Its coming to an end. not in Kenya..the new system means if you are poor it will remain a generational curse.you will never come out of that poverty chain.atleast with exams you can read hard and go to 'starehe' and change your fortune.that kibra kid will just be condemned to life of kibra.the rich will relocate to say mangu just to be zoned within mangu high.or kikuyu for alliance girls where they already have a head start in terms of learning resources. to me there is nothing wrong with the current system were it not infiltrated with corruption . you just need to look for guys who went through the first years of 844 and were serious in their studies and life and you would agree that they are all rounded I think any of the systems can work but the issue is design n implementation. Govt jumping to introduce new system without a complete design, without thinking through all the nitty gritties is very worrying. That's why l liked Amina's forthrightness. I hope som court / parliament can stop implementation until these matters are properly ventilated
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I see this is 2011 for Health service providers. Is it really for new curriculum? We are finished! Tumeisha!
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limanika wrote:newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:radiomast wrote:Many western countries don't have national exams for entry into high school. The reason it works for them is because students get automatic entry into the school that is in their neighbourhood. So for example if you live in Lavington then you get automatic entry into Patch or Kabz. If you live at Laini saba then you get automatic entry into Shadrack Kimalel. And if you live near Thompson falls then you attend Ndururumo secondary.
That system leaves very little room for corruption and inefficiency. Residents of a location take pride in their local school and they work with the school boards and teachers to improve their schools. Their local property taxes go towards improving the school. So if you want a good school system then you must be willing to pay high property taxes.
if there are no national exams then Kenya may have to scrap national schools and leave it to local school boards to improve their schools. Because otherwise there is no objective criteria for determining who can join a national school This is what we need to implement in Kenya for our education system to get to the next level. Exams should be for assessment only and not for placement in preferred schools. The practice of competing for basic education creates a culture of scarcity which endures throughout our lives. The government should introduce schools zoning for basic education, and then divest from universities and let them be run without govt interference. The input of the govt in education should end at standard setting and funding. Teachers should also be directly employed by schools complimented maybe by local govt and not by the PSC. Umedunga point kweli kweli. Guys get your head out of the school competition thing; Its coming to an end. not in Kenya..the new system means if you are poor it will remain a generational curse.you will never come out of that poverty chain.atleast with exams you can read hard and go to 'starehe' and change your fortune.that kibra kid will just be condemned to life of kibra.the rich will relocate to say mangu just to be zoned within mangu high.or kikuyu for alliance girls where they already have a head start in terms of learning resources. to me there is nothing wrong with the current system were it not infiltrated with corruption . you just need to look for guys who went through the first years of 844 and were serious in their studies and life and you would agree that they are all rounded I think any of the systems can work but the issue is design n implementation. Govt jumping to introduce new system without a complete design, without thinking through all the nitty gritties is very worrying. That's why l liked Amina's forthrightness. I hope som court / parliament can stop implementation until these matters are properly ventilated Are you assuming there's no complete design esp since this has been in the works since 2010/11? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:limanika wrote:newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:radiomast wrote:Many western countries don't have national exams for entry into high school. The reason it works for them is because students get automatic entry into the school that is in their neighbourhood. So for example if you live in Lavington then you get automatic entry into Patch or Kabz. If you live at Laini saba then you get automatic entry into Shadrack Kimalel. And if you live near Thompson falls then you attend Ndururumo secondary.
That system leaves very little room for corruption and inefficiency. Residents of a location take pride in their local school and they work with the school boards and teachers to improve their schools. Their local property taxes go towards improving the school. So if you want a good school system then you must be willing to pay high property taxes.
if there are no national exams then Kenya may have to scrap national schools and leave it to local school boards to improve their schools. Because otherwise there is no objective criteria for determining who can join a national school This is what we need to implement in Kenya for our education system to get to the next level. Exams should be for assessment only and not for placement in preferred schools. The practice of competing for basic education creates a culture of scarcity which endures throughout our lives. The government should introduce schools zoning for basic education, and then divest from universities and let them be run without govt interference. The input of the govt in education should end at standard setting and funding. Teachers should also be directly employed by schools complimented maybe by local govt and not by the PSC. Umedunga point kweli kweli. Guys get your head out of the school competition thing; Its coming to an end. not in Kenya..the new system means if you are poor it will remain a generational curse.you will never come out of that poverty chain.atleast with exams you can read hard and go to 'starehe' and change your fortune.that kibra kid will just be condemned to life of kibra.the rich will relocate to say mangu just to be zoned within mangu high.or kikuyu for alliance girls where they already have a head start in terms of learning resources. to me there is nothing wrong with the current system were it not infiltrated with corruption . you just need to look for guys who went through the first years of 844 and were serious in their studies and life and you would agree that they are all rounded I think any of the systems can work but the issue is design n implementation. Govt jumping to introduce new system without a complete design, without thinking through all the nitty gritties is very worrying. That's why l liked Amina's forthrightness. I hope som court / parliament can stop implementation until these matters are properly ventilated Are you assuming there's no complete design esp since this has been in the works since 2010/11? By full design, I mean entire curriculum for entire primary, junior secondary and senior secondary is complete, govt has already developed systematic plans to build at least 1 extra class in every secondary school by end 2022 to cater for the double intake in '23, issues of selection to junior secondary have been thought through, etc etc. If all this and other nitty grities has been done pls confirm
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limanika wrote:murchr wrote:limanika wrote:newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:radiomast wrote:Many western countries don't have national exams for entry into high school. The reason it works for them is because students get automatic entry into the school that is in their neighbourhood. So for example if you live in Lavington then you get automatic entry into Patch or Kabz. If you live at Laini saba then you get automatic entry into Shadrack Kimalel. And if you live near Thompson falls then you attend Ndururumo secondary.
That system leaves very little room for corruption and inefficiency. Residents of a location take pride in their local school and they work with the school boards and teachers to improve their schools. Their local property taxes go towards improving the school. So if you want a good school system then you must be willing to pay high property taxes.
if there are no national exams then Kenya may have to scrap national schools and leave it to local school boards to improve their schools. Because otherwise there is no objective criteria for determining who can join a national school This is what we need to implement in Kenya for our education system to get to the next level. Exams should be for assessment only and not for placement in preferred schools. The practice of competing for basic education creates a culture of scarcity which endures throughout our lives. The government should introduce schools zoning for basic education, and then divest from universities and let them be run without govt interference. The input of the govt in education should end at standard setting and funding. Teachers should also be directly employed by schools complimented maybe by local govt and not by the PSC. Umedunga point kweli kweli. Guys get your head out of the school competition thing; Its coming to an end. not in Kenya..the new system means if you are poor it will remain a generational curse.you will never come out of that poverty chain.atleast with exams you can read hard and go to 'starehe' and change your fortune.that kibra kid will just be condemned to life of kibra.the rich will relocate to say mangu just to be zoned within mangu high.or kikuyu for alliance girls where they already have a head start in terms of learning resources. to me there is nothing wrong with the current system were it not infiltrated with corruption . you just need to look for guys who went through the first years of 844 and were serious in their studies and life and you would agree that they are all rounded I think any of the systems can work but the issue is design n implementation. Govt jumping to introduce new system without a complete design, without thinking through all the nitty gritties is very worrying. That's why l liked Amina's forthrightness. I hope som court / parliament can stop implementation until these matters are properly ventilated Are you assuming there's no complete design esp since this has been in the works since 2010/11? By full design, I mean entire curriculum for entire primary, junior secondary and senior secondary is complete, govt has already developed systematic plans to build at least 1 extra class in every secondary school by end 2022 to cater for the double intake in '22, issues of selection to junior secondary have been thought through, etc etc. If all this and other nitty grities has been done pls confirm The oldest class in the new curriculum is in class 3, why waste resources on Secondary education while there's an option of building periodically with time. The world is evolving FAST things will look very different 5 years from now when that kid will be joining Secondary school. Just like buildings, you start with a sketch and build on that not a roof down.. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:limanika wrote:murchr wrote:limanika wrote:newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:radiomast wrote:Many western countries don't have national exams for entry into high school. The reason it works for them is because students get automatic entry into the school that is in their neighbourhood. So for example if you live in Lavington then you get automatic entry into Patch or Kabz. If you live at Laini saba then you get automatic entry into Shadrack Kimalel. And if you live near Thompson falls then you attend Ndururumo secondary.
That system leaves very little room for corruption and inefficiency. Residents of a location take pride in their local school and they work with the school boards and teachers to improve their schools. Their local property taxes go towards improving the school. So if you want a good school system then you must be willing to pay high property taxes.
if there are no national exams then Kenya may have to scrap national schools and leave it to local school boards to improve their schools. Because otherwise there is no objective criteria for determining who can join a national school This is what we need to implement in Kenya for our education system to get to the next level. Exams should be for assessment only and not for placement in preferred schools. The practice of competing for basic education creates a culture of scarcity which endures throughout our lives. The government should introduce schools zoning for basic education, and then divest from universities and let them be run without govt interference. The input of the govt in education should end at standard setting and funding. Teachers should also be directly employed by schools complimented maybe by local govt and not by the PSC. Umedunga point kweli kweli. Guys get your head out of the school competition thing; Its coming to an end. not in Kenya..the new system means if you are poor it will remain a generational curse.you will never come out of that poverty chain.atleast with exams you can read hard and go to 'starehe' and change your fortune.that kibra kid will just be condemned to life of kibra.the rich will relocate to say mangu just to be zoned within mangu high.or kikuyu for alliance girls where they already have a head start in terms of learning resources. to me there is nothing wrong with the current system were it not infiltrated with corruption . you just need to look for guys who went through the first years of 844 and were serious in their studies and life and you would agree that they are all rounded I think any of the systems can work but the issue is design n implementation. Govt jumping to introduce new system without a complete design, without thinking through all the nitty gritties is very worrying. That's why l liked Amina's forthrightness. I hope som court / parliament can stop implementation until these matters are properly ventilated Are you assuming there's no complete design esp since this has been in the works since 2010/11? By full design, I mean entire curriculum for entire primary, junior secondary and senior secondary is complete, govt has already developed systematic plans to build at least 1 extra class in every secondary school by end 2022 to cater for the double intake in '22, issues of selection to junior secondary have been thought through, etc etc. If all this and other nitty grities has been done pls confirm The oldest class in the new curriculum is in class 3, why waste resources on Secondary education while there's an option of building periodically with time. The world is evolving FAST things will look very different 5 years from now when that kid will be joining Secondary school. Just like buildings, you start with a sketch and build on that not a roof down..  take a topic like algebra, or soil, or human body. What will change in 5yrs? In proper curriculum development, you start with the end. I.e, what is the ultimate skill, knowledge etc should the kids have gained by the time they complete basic education? Then work backwards and develop every detail. The sequence of the topics is as important as the topics themselves. What you are proposing is total recipe for failure
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limanika wrote:murchr wrote:limanika wrote:murchr wrote:limanika wrote:newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:radiomast wrote:Many western countries don't have national exams for entry into high school. The reason it works for them is because students get automatic entry into the school that is in their neighbourhood. So for example if you live in Lavington then you get automatic entry into Patch or Kabz. If you live at Laini saba then you get automatic entry into Shadrack Kimalel. And if you live near Thompson falls then you attend Ndururumo secondary.
That system leaves very little room for corruption and inefficiency. Residents of a location take pride in their local school and they work with the school boards and teachers to improve their schools. Their local property taxes go towards improving the school. So if you want a good school system then you must be willing to pay high property taxes.
if there are no national exams then Kenya may have to scrap national schools and leave it to local school boards to improve their schools. Because otherwise there is no objective criteria for determining who can join a national school This is what we need to implement in Kenya for our education system to get to the next level. Exams should be for assessment only and not for placement in preferred schools. The practice of competing for basic education creates a culture of scarcity which endures throughout our lives. The government should introduce schools zoning for basic education, and then divest from universities and let them be run without govt interference. The input of the govt in education should end at standard setting and funding. Teachers should also be directly employed by schools complimented maybe by local govt and not by the PSC. Umedunga point kweli kweli. Guys get your head out of the school competition thing; Its coming to an end. not in Kenya..the new system means if you are poor it will remain a generational curse.you will never come out of that poverty chain.atleast with exams you can read hard and go to 'starehe' and change your fortune.that kibra kid will just be condemned to life of kibra.the rich will relocate to say mangu just to be zoned within mangu high.or kikuyu for alliance girls where they already have a head start in terms of learning resources. to me there is nothing wrong with the current system were it not infiltrated with corruption . you just need to look for guys who went through the first years of 844 and were serious in their studies and life and you would agree that they are all rounded I think any of the systems can work but the issue is design n implementation. Govt jumping to introduce new system without a complete design, without thinking through all the nitty gritties is very worrying. That's why l liked Amina's forthrightness. I hope som court / parliament can stop implementation until these matters are properly ventilated Are you assuming there's no complete design esp since this has been in the works since 2010/11? By full design, I mean entire curriculum for entire primary, junior secondary and senior secondary is complete, govt has already developed systematic plans to build at least 1 extra class in every secondary school by end 2022 to cater for the double intake in '22, issues of selection to junior secondary have been thought through, etc etc. If all this and other nitty grities has been done pls confirm The oldest class in the new curriculum is in class 3, why waste resources on Secondary education while there's an option of building periodically with time. The world is evolving FAST things will look very different 5 years from now when that kid will be joining Secondary school. Just like buildings, you start with a sketch and build on that not a roof down.. take a topic like algebra, or soil, or human body. What will change in 5yrs? In proper curriculum development, you start with the end. I.e, what is the ultimate skill, knowledge etc should the kids have gained by the time they complete basic education? Then work backwards and develop every detail. The sequence of the topics is as important as the topics themselves. What you are proposing is total recipe for failure If you are talking about Algebra that has been there since Einstein, the wheel is not being reinvented, The delivery is being changed. Dont even get complicated...the way you learnt the alphabet is completely different from how your children are learning it. If you have children go look. I trust the Professionals at KICD are more informed than you are "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:limanika wrote:murchr wrote:limanika wrote:murchr wrote:limanika wrote:newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:radiomast wrote:Many western countries don't have national exams for entry into high school. The reason it works for them is because students get automatic entry into the school that is in their neighbourhood. So for example if you live in Lavington then you get automatic entry into Patch or Kabz. If you live at Laini saba then you get automatic entry into Shadrack Kimalel. And if you live near Thompson falls then you attend Ndururumo secondary.
That system leaves very little room for corruption and inefficiency. Residents of a location take pride in their local school and they work with the school boards and teachers to improve their schools. Their local property taxes go towards improving the school. So if you want a good school system then you must be willing to pay high property taxes.
if there are no national exams then Kenya may have to scrap national schools and leave it to local school boards to improve their schools. Because otherwise there is no objective criteria for determining who can join a national school This is what we need to implement in Kenya for our education system to get to the next level. Exams should be for assessment only and not for placement in preferred schools. The practice of competing for basic education creates a culture of scarcity which endures throughout our lives. The government should introduce schools zoning for basic education, and then divest from universities and let them be run without govt interference. The input of the govt in education should end at standard setting and funding. Teachers should also be directly employed by schools complimented maybe by local govt and not by the PSC. Umedunga point kweli kweli. Guys get your head out of the school competition thing; Its coming to an end. not in Kenya..the new system means if you are poor it will remain a generational curse.you will never come out of that poverty chain.atleast with exams you can read hard and go to 'starehe' and change your fortune.that kibra kid will just be condemned to life of kibra.the rich will relocate to say mangu just to be zoned within mangu high.or kikuyu for alliance girls where they already have a head start in terms of learning resources. to me there is nothing wrong with the current system were it not infiltrated with corruption . you just need to look for guys who went through the first years of 844 and were serious in their studies and life and you would agree that they are all rounded I think any of the systems can work but the issue is design n implementation. Govt jumping to introduce new system without a complete design, without thinking through all the nitty gritties is very worrying. That's why l liked Amina's forthrightness. I hope som court / parliament can stop implementation until these matters are properly ventilated Are you assuming there's no complete design esp since this has been in the works since 2010/11? By full design, I mean entire curriculum for entire primary, junior secondary and senior secondary is complete, govt has already developed systematic plans to build at least 1 extra class in every secondary school by end 2022 to cater for the double intake in '22, issues of selection to junior secondary have been thought through, etc etc. If all this and other nitty grities has been done pls confirm The oldest class in the new curriculum is in class 3, why waste resources on Secondary education while there's an option of building periodically with time. The world is evolving FAST things will look very different 5 years from now when that kid will be joining Secondary school. Just like buildings, you start with a sketch and build on that not a roof down.. take a topic like algebra, or soil, or human body. What will change in 5yrs? In proper curriculum development, you start with the end. I.e, what is the ultimate skill, knowledge etc should the kids have gained by the time they complete basic education? Then work backwards and develop every detail. The sequence of the topics is as important as the topics themselves. What you are proposing is total recipe for failure If you are talking about Algebra that has been there since Einstein, the wheel is not being reinvented, The delivery is being changed. Dont even get complicated...the way you learnt the alphabet is completely different from how your children are learning it. If you have children go look. I trust the Professionals at KICD are more informed than you are
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Are you assuming there's no complete design esp since this has been in the works since 2010/11?
There is likely no full design and there is no risk analysis, no financial planning, no feasibility study. In Kenya we fly by the seat of our pants then wait until things go poorly before reacting. And the way they will react is by sending 100 delegates to Denmark or Finland on a "learning mission". Remember this is Kenya we are talking about. How come no one can even answer the most basic question: What is the criteria for acceptance to secondary schools? Who will be accepted to national schools or will the concept of national schools cease to existThis is the biggest issue that will throw the system into disarray. There will be an uproar amongst parents when students with excellent academic credentials are told they have to attend Ruthimitu secondary instead of Mangu.
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limanika wrote:murchr wrote:limanika wrote:murchr wrote:limanika wrote:murchr wrote:limanika wrote:newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:radiomast wrote:Many western countries don't have national exams for entry into high school. The reason it works for them is because students get automatic entry into the school that is in their neighbourhood. So for example if you live in Lavington then you get automatic entry into Patch or Kabz. If you live at Laini saba then you get automatic entry into Shadrack Kimalel. And if you live near Thompson falls then you attend Ndururumo secondary.
That system leaves very little room for corruption and inefficiency. Residents of a location take pride in their local school and they work with the school boards and teachers to improve their schools. Their local property taxes go towards improving the school. So if you want a good school system then you must be willing to pay high property taxes.
if there are no national exams then Kenya may have to scrap national schools and leave it to local school boards to improve their schools. Because otherwise there is no objective criteria for determining who can join a national school This is what we need to implement in Kenya for our education system to get to the next level. Exams should be for assessment only and not for placement in preferred schools. The practice of competing for basic education creates a culture of scarcity which endures throughout our lives. The government should introduce schools zoning for basic education, and then divest from universities and let them be run without govt interference. The input of the govt in education should end at standard setting and funding. Teachers should also be directly employed by schools complimented maybe by local govt and not by the PSC. Umedunga point kweli kweli. Guys get your head out of the school competition thing; Its coming to an end. not in Kenya..the new system means if you are poor it will remain a generational curse.you will never come out of that poverty chain.atleast with exams you can read hard and go to 'starehe' and change your fortune.that kibra kid will just be condemned to life of kibra.the rich will relocate to say mangu just to be zoned within mangu high.or kikuyu for alliance girls where they already have a head start in terms of learning resources. to me there is nothing wrong with the current system were it not infiltrated with corruption . you just need to look for guys who went through the first years of 844 and were serious in their studies and life and you would agree that they are all rounded I think any of the systems can work but the issue is design n implementation. Govt jumping to introduce new system without a complete design, without thinking through all the nitty gritties is very worrying. That's why l liked Amina's forthrightness. I hope som court / parliament can stop implementation until these matters are properly ventilated Are you assuming there's no complete design esp since this has been in the works since 2010/11? By full design, I mean entire curriculum for entire primary, junior secondary and senior secondary is complete, govt has already developed systematic plans to build at least 1 extra class in every secondary school by end 2022 to cater for the double intake in '22, issues of selection to junior secondary have been thought through, etc etc. If all this and other nitty grities has been done pls confirm The oldest class in the new curriculum is in class 3, why waste resources on Secondary education while there's an option of building periodically with time. The world is evolving FAST things will look very different 5 years from now when that kid will be joining Secondary school. Just like buildings, you start with a sketch and build on that not a roof down.. take a topic like algebra, or soil, or human body. What will change in 5yrs? In proper curriculum development, you start with the end. I.e, what is the ultimate skill, knowledge etc should the kids have gained by the time they complete basic education? Then work backwards and develop every detail. The sequence of the topics is as important as the topics themselves. What you are proposing is total recipe for failure If you are talking about Algebra that has been there since Einstein, the wheel is not being reinvented, The delivery is being changed. Dont even get complicated...the way you learnt the alphabet is completely different from how your children are learning it. If you have children go look. I trust the Professionals at KICD are more informed than you are Remember the crazy online debate to the answer to 8÷2(2+2)=? In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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radiomast wrote:murchr wrote:
Are you assuming there's no complete design esp since this has been in the works since 2010/11?
There is likely no full design and there is no risk analysis, no financial planning, no feasibility study. In Kenya we fly by the seat of our pants then wait until things go poorly before reacting. And the way they will react is by sending 100 delegates to Denmark or Finland on a "learning mission". Remember this is Kenya we are talking about. How come no one can even answer the most basic question: What is the criteria for acceptance to secondary schools? Who will be accepted to national schools or will the concept of national schools cease to existThis is the biggest issue that will throw the system into disarray. There will be an uproar amongst parents when students with excellent academic credentials are told they have to attend Ruthimitu secondary instead of Mangu. this hits the point well punda amecheka
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newfarer wrote:radiomast wrote:murchr wrote:
Are you assuming there's no complete design esp since this has been in the works since 2010/11?
There is likely no full design and there is no risk analysis, no financial planning, no feasibility study. In Kenya we fly by the seat of our pants then wait until things go poorly before reacting. And the way they will react is by sending 100 delegates to Denmark or Finland on a "learning mission". Remember this is Kenya we are talking about. How come no one can even answer the most basic question: What is the criteria for acceptance to secondary schools? Who will be accepted to national schools or will the concept of national schools cease to existThis is the biggest issue that will throw the system into disarray. There will be an uproar amongst parents when students with excellent academic credentials are told they have to attend Ruthimitu secondary instead of Mangu. this hits the point well True True. This is most inept govt we ever had. Even with a simple calculator anyone can work out some of the associated costs e.g. additional classrooms needed - assume 2023 january 1m kids need to enter junior secondary in addition to the normal 8-4-4 intake. Assuming 25kids per class in the CBC, that means we need at least 40,000 NEW classrooms across the country by end 2022. Assuming each class costs modest 1.5m by very conservative estimates, total cost in the magnitude of 60b. That means govt needs to spend at least 30b every year for 2years, for the construction of classrooms. Now, has anyone worked that out? Same govt is constructing 500,000 houses nobody asked for using borrowed money
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radiomast wrote:murchr wrote:
Are you assuming there's no complete design esp since this has been in the works since 2010/11?
There is likely no full design and there is no risk analysis, no financial planning, no feasibility study. In Kenya we fly by the seat of our pants then wait until things go poorly before reacting. And the way they will react is by sending 100 delegates to Denmark or Finland on a "learning mission". Remember this is Kenya we are talking about. How come no one can even answer the most basic question: What is the criteria for acceptance to secondary schools? Who will be accepted to national schools or will the concept of national schools cease to existThis is the biggest issue that will throw the system into disarray. There will be an uproar amongst parents when students with excellent academic credentials are told they have to attend Ruthimitu secondary instead of Mangu. The problem with Kenyans is they never research anything and the best they do is criticize everything a simple browsing of KICD website would give you all you mentioned here. Stop expecting answers from newspapers or tv shows "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:radiomast wrote:murchr wrote:
Are you assuming there's no complete design esp since this has been in the works since 2010/11?
There is likely no full design and there is no risk analysis, no financial planning, no feasibility study. In Kenya we fly by the seat of our pants then wait until things go poorly before reacting. And the way they will react is by sending 100 delegates to Denmark or Finland on a "learning mission". Remember this is Kenya we are talking about. How come no one can even answer the most basic question: What is the criteria for acceptance to secondary schools? Who will be accepted to national schools or will the concept of national schools cease to existThis is the biggest issue that will throw the system into disarray. There will be an uproar amongst parents when students with excellent academic credentials are told they have to attend Ruthimitu secondary instead of Mangu. The problem with Kenyans is they never research anything and the best they do is criticize everything a simple browsing of KICD website would give you all you mentioned here. Stop expecting answers from newspapers or tv shows You know fully well that the website doesn't address the issues raised on this thread. Peleka mzaha kwa Churchill live
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radiomast wrote:murchr wrote:radiomast wrote:murchr wrote:
Are you assuming there's no complete design esp since this has been in the works since 2010/11?
There is likely no full design and there is no risk analysis, no financial planning, no feasibility study. In Kenya we fly by the seat of our pants then wait until things go poorly before reacting. And the way they will react is by sending 100 delegates to Denmark or Finland on a "learning mission". Remember this is Kenya we are talking about. How come no one can even answer the most basic question: What is the criteria for acceptance to secondary schools? Who will be accepted to national schools or will the concept of national schools cease to existThis is the biggest issue that will throw the system into disarray. There will be an uproar amongst parents when students with excellent academic credentials are told they have to attend Ruthimitu secondary instead of Mangu. The problem with Kenyans is they never research anything and the best they do is criticize everything a simple browsing of KICD website would give you all you mentioned here. Stop expecting answers from newspapers or tv shows You know fully well that the website doesn't address the issues raised on this thread. Peleka mzaha kwa Churchill live Have you tried? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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@Murchr
I have already looked at that website. The info there is already available on other news sites.
Since you have claimed you know the answers then Instead of pointing us to another website why don' you provide basic answers to the questions being asked here.
isn't that wazua is supposed to be about.
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radiomast wrote:@Murchr
I have already looked at that website. The info there is already available on other news sites.
Since you have claimed you know the answers then Instead of pointing us to another website why don' you provide basic answers to the questions being asked here.
isn't that wazua is supposed to be about. http://www.education.go....acilitators--Manual.pdf
People need to research "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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@Murchr
Have you even bothered to read the questions people have on this thread? Clearly you haven't.
Where are the answers to questions about:
1. Criteria for admission to secondary schools
2. Financial planning (with hard numbers)
3. Additional infrastructure needed
4. Mechanisms for addressing corruption, leakage and so forth
Why don't you just answer even one question instead of posting links that don't address the questions people have. You claim that you know the answers yet you cant even answer one question.
That link you posted only describes the curriculum. This is the easy part. There are much bigger questions that are not answered yet.
Please stop posting links that are of no use. Just provide one answer. All we need is one sentence from you.
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