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EABL FY19
VituVingiSana
#21 Posted : Friday, August 02, 2019 12:16:51 AM
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McGill wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Failed Businessman wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/EABL-staff-face-layoffs/4003102-5218176-view-asAMP-qbwvsbz/index.html


These retrenchments started kitambo. I was one of the first people to face the axe. Jobs are mainly moved to India.
Are KE labor costs too high?

I know of a diageo position where a kenyan guy makes 120,000ksh but the Indian counterpart makes less than 50,000ksh
For a job function that doesn't require on the ground knowledge, it's much cheaper to outsource. It started with the "West" outsourcing but it seems to now include the "South" too.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
FUNKY
#22 Posted : Monday, August 05, 2019 12:39:07 PM
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FUNKY
#23 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2019 7:35:30 PM
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https://www.the-star.co....twitter_impression=true

This should be good news for EABL!
Angelica _ann
#24 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2019 7:52:49 PM
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FUNKY wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/amp/news/2019-08-21-dpp-orders-keroche-directors-tabitha-karanja-and-husband-to-appear-in-court-over-sh14bn-tax-evasion/?__twitter_impression=true

This should be good news for EABL!


KRA is killing local investors. By 2023 there will be both decline in budget & revenue collection. Remember Moi days.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
whiteowl
#25 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2019 8:00:58 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/amp/news/2019-08-21-dpp-orders-keroche-directors-tabitha-karanja-and-husband-to-appear-in-court-over-sh14bn-tax-evasion/?__twitter_impression=true

This should be good news for EABL!


KRA is killing local investors. By 2023 there will be both decline in budget & revenue collection. Remember Moi days.


This is not good news to anyone.It can't be that KRA has just discovered all top tax payers are evading taxes.If this goes on more jobs will be lost and KRA gets zero taxes after shutting down the companies.
sparkly
#26 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2019 8:03:10 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/amp/news/2019-08-21-dpp-orders-keroche-directors-tabitha-karanja-and-husband-to-appear-in-court-over-sh14bn-tax-evasion/?__twitter_impression=true

This should be good news for EABL!


KRA is killing local investors. By 2023 there will be both decline in budget & revenue collection. Remember Moi days.


The African Government kills African entrepreneurs. After Murungi of Mastermind, its now Tabitha of Keroche, Karauri of Sports Pesa and Humphrey Kariuki of wines of the World.
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#27 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2019 8:07:54 PM
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sparkly wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/amp/news/2019-08-21-dpp-orders-keroche-directors-tabitha-karanja-and-husband-to-appear-in-court-over-sh14bn-tax-evasion/?__twitter_impression=true

This should be good news for EABL!


KRA is killing local investors. By 2023 there will be both decline in budget & revenue collection. Remember Moi days.


The African Government kills African entrepreneurs. After Murungi of Mastermind, its now Tabitha of Keroche, Karauri of Sports Pesa and Humphrey Kariuki of wines of the World.

Kulipa ushuru ni kujitegemea.. Nothing wrong with being rich but not at the expense of national interest

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
obiero
#28 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2019 8:09:30 PM
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sparkly wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/amp/news/2019-08-21-dpp-orders-keroche-directors-tabitha-karanja-and-husband-to-appear-in-court-over-sh14bn-tax-evasion/?__twitter_impression=true

This should be good news for EABL!


KRA is killing local investors. By 2023 there will be both decline in budget & revenue collection. Remember Moi days.


The African Government kills African entrepreneurs. After Murungi of Mastermind, its now Tabitha of Keroche, Karauri of Sports Pesa and Humphrey Kariuki of wines of the World.

Kulipa ushuru ni kujitegemea.. Nothing wrong with being rich but not at the expense of national interest.. These four chaps do not define entire Kenya state of business. Why hasn’t James Mwangi or Chris Kirubi been targeted. Most unlisted firms practice vodoo accounting

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
sparkly
#29 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2019 8:26:34 PM
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obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/amp/news/2019-08-21-dpp-orders-keroche-directors-tabitha-karanja-and-husband-to-appear-in-court-over-sh14bn-tax-evasion/?__twitter_impression=true

This should be good news for EABL!


KRA is killing local investors. By 2023 there will be both decline in budget & revenue collection. Remember Moi days.


The African Government kills African entrepreneurs. After Murungi of Mastermind, its now Tabitha of Keroche, Karauri of Sports Pesa and Humphrey Kariuki of wines of the World.

Kulipa ushuru ni kujitegemea.. Nothing wrong with being rich but not at the expense of national interest.. These four chaps do not define entire Kenya state of business. Why hasn’t James Mwangi or Chris Kirubi been targeted. Most unlisted firms practice vodoo accounting


In Kenya you can't grow by being 100% compliant. Cost of compliance is too high. Between paying loans to build the factory, buying raw materials & paying employees to keep the factory running versus paying taxes, something gotta give. The Government should acknowledge this situation and give the taxpayer time to pay.
Life is short. Live passionately.
VituVingiSana
#30 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2019 8:42:26 PM
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sparkly wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/amp/news/2019-08-21-dpp-orders-keroche-directors-tabitha-karanja-and-husband-to-appear-in-court-over-sh14bn-tax-evasion/?__twitter_impression=true

This should be good news for EABL!


KRA is killing local investors. By 2023 there will be both decline in budget & revenue collection. Remember Moi days.

The African Government kills African entrepreneurs. After Murungi of Mastermind, its now Tabitha of Keroche, Karauri of Sports Pesa and Humphrey Kariuki of wines of the World.
Have they been evading taxes?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#31 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2019 9:22:36 PM
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sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/amp/news/2019-08-21-dpp-orders-keroche-directors-tabitha-karanja-and-husband-to-appear-in-court-over-sh14bn-tax-evasion/?__twitter_impression=true

This should be good news for EABL!


KRA is killing local investors. By 2023 there will be both decline in budget & revenue collection. Remember Moi days.


The African Government kills African entrepreneurs. After Murungi of Mastermind, its now Tabitha of Keroche, Karauri of Sports Pesa and Humphrey Kariuki of wines of the World.

Kulipa ushuru ni kujitegemea.. Nothing wrong with being rich but not at the expense of national interest.. These four chaps do not define entire Kenya state of business. Why hasn’t James Mwangi or Chris Kirubi been targeted. Most unlisted firms practice vodoo accounting


In Kenya you can't grow by being 100% compliant. Cost of compliance is too high. Between paying loans to build the factory, buying raw materials & paying employees to keep the factory running versus paying taxes, something gotta give. The Government should acknowledge this situation and give the taxpayer time to pay.

Kwenda huko

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
obiero
#32 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2019 9:24:13 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/amp/news/2019-08-21-dpp-orders-keroche-directors-tabitha-karanja-and-husband-to-appear-in-court-over-sh14bn-tax-evasion/?__twitter_impression=true

This should be good news for EABL!


KRA is killing local investors. By 2023 there will be both decline in budget & revenue collection. Remember Moi days.

The African Government kills African entrepreneurs. After Murungi of Mastermind, its now Tabitha of Keroche, Karauri of Sports Pesa and Humphrey Kariuki of wines of the World.
Have they been evading taxes?

They have..

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
FUNKY
#33 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:22:12 AM
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Today is the book closure date
Ericsson
#34 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:06:37 AM
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https://tradingroom.co.k...d-the-group-chairman-at/
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
sparkly
#35 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:48:14 AM
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Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/amp/news/2019-08-21-dpp-orders-keroche-directors-tabitha-karanja-and-husband-to-appear-in-court-over-sh14bn-tax-evasion/?__twitter_impression=true

This should be good news for EABL!


KRA is killing local investors. By 2023 there will be both decline in budget & revenue collection. Remember Moi days.


The African Government kills African entrepreneurs. After Murungi of Mastermind, its now Tabitha of Keroche, Karauri of Sports Pesa and Humphrey Kariuki of wines of the World.

Kulipa ushuru ni kujitegemea.. Nothing wrong with being rich but not at the expense of national interest.. These four chaps do not define entire Kenya state of business. Why hasn’t James Mwangi or Chris Kirubi been targeted. Most unlisted firms practice vodoo accounting


In Kenya you can't grow by being 100% compliant. Cost of compliance is too high. Between paying loans to build the factory, buying raw materials & paying employees to keep the factory running versus paying taxes, something gotta give. The Government should acknowledge this situation and give the taxpayer time to pay.

Kwenda huko


You have been begging for KQ to be exempted from income tax... why?
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#36 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 11:53:22 AM
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sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/amp/news/2019-08-21-dpp-orders-keroche-directors-tabitha-karanja-and-husband-to-appear-in-court-over-sh14bn-tax-evasion/?__twitter_impression=true

This should be good news for EABL!


KRA is killing local investors. By 2023 there will be both decline in budget & revenue collection. Remember Moi days.


The African Government kills African entrepreneurs. After Murungi of Mastermind, its now Tabitha of Keroche, Karauri of Sports Pesa and Humphrey Kariuki of wines of the World.

Kulipa ushuru ni kujitegemea.. Nothing wrong with being rich but not at the expense of national interest.. These four chaps do not define entire Kenya state of business. Why hasn’t James Mwangi or Chris Kirubi been targeted. Most unlisted firms practice vodoo accounting


In Kenya you can't grow by being 100% compliant. Cost of compliance is too high. Between paying loans to build the factory, buying raw materials & paying employees to keep the factory running versus paying taxes, something gotta give. The Government should acknowledge this situation and give the taxpayer time to pay.

Kwenda huko


You have been begging for KQ to be exempted from income tax... why?

Because its competitors across the region enjoy such state protection, thus making the KQ ticket price unattractive in comparison. Plus GoK holds 48% of the airline stock, thus its demise/diminished return is a direct hit to taxpayers

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
FUNKY
#37 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 1:33:37 PM
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Ericsson
#38 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 2:17:54 PM
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FUNKY wrote:
https://kenyanwallstreet.com/martin-oduor-otieno-takes-over-as-eabl-chairman/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


Already posted here
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#39 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 6:20:39 PM
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sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.the-star.co.ke/amp/news/2019-08-21-dpp-orders-keroche-directors-tabitha-karanja-and-husband-to-appear-in-court-over-sh14bn-tax-evasion/?__twitter_impression=true

This should be good news for EABL!


KRA is killing local investors. By 2023 there will be both decline in budget & revenue collection. Remember Moi days.


The African Government kills African entrepreneurs. After Murungi of Mastermind, its now Tabitha of Keroche, Karauri of Sports Pesa and Humphrey Kariuki of wines of the World.

Kulipa ushuru ni kujitegemea.. Nothing wrong with being rich but not at the expense of national interest.. These four chaps do not define entire Kenya state of business. Why hasn’t James Mwangi or Chris Kirubi been targeted. Most unlisted firms practice vodoo accounting


In Kenya you can't grow by being 100% compliant. Cost of compliance is too high. Between paying loans to build the factory, buying raw materials & paying employees to keep the factory running versus paying taxes, something gotta give. The Government should acknowledge this situation and give the taxpayer time to pay.

Kwenda huko


You have been begging for KQ to be exempted from income tax... why?
Income Tax is paid on PBT. There's no fear of any P(rofit) at KQ in the near future Laughing out loudly
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Kusadikika
#40 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2020 8:41:45 PM
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https://www.businessdail...3544-mxpm2dz/index.html

Are these the same type of bond that Nakumatt issued that left some investors holding worthless pieces of paper? Unsecured 6bn bond!!!
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