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Insightful take on Nairobi Real Estate
wukan
#141 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2019 4:10:53 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
Meanwhile

Properties being held by banks for auction:

https://www.garam.co.ke/...-forwards-July-2019.pdf


Very juicy propertiessmile smile
Property 219 Kirinyaga road total p.m. Kshs 666,500/= price guide 60m. Yield 13.3%

BUT...."The Immediate access road is also tar-surfaced but is currently overcrowded with motor vehicle garages."
dunkang
#142 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2019 7:32:15 PM
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wukan wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
Meanwhile

Properties being held by banks for auction:

https://www.garam.co.ke/...-forwards-July-2019.pdf


Very juicy propertiessmile smile
Property 219 Kirinyaga road total p.m. Kshs 666,500/= price guide 60m. Yield 13.3%

BUT...."The Immediate access road is also tar-surfaced but is currently overcrowded with motor vehicle garages."

Mimi hiyo No. 31
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

Angelica _ann
#143 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2019 11:45:21 PM
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dunkang wrote:
wukan wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
Meanwhile

Properties being held by banks for auction:

https://www.garam.co.ke/...-forwards-July-2019.pdf


Very juicy propertiessmile smile
Property 219 Kirinyaga road total p.m. Kshs 666,500/= price guide 60m. Yield 13.3%

BUT...."The Immediate access road is also tar-surfaced but is currently overcrowded with motor vehicle garages."

Mimi hiyo No. 31


Looks good & affordable. GL!!!
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wukan
#144 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2019 1:01:37 PM
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1st Half Knight Frank report...not looking good in matters real estate

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Rents for prime retail shops decreased by approximately 5.9% to US$ 4.8 per square foot per month in the first half of 2019, while service charges across retail malls in Kenya ranged from Ksh 45 to Ksh 60/sq ft/month. The decline in rentals is mainly attributed to the current economic situation and less money in circulation, resulting in reduced spending by consumers. Additionally, oversupply of retail space in certain locations has resulted in pressure on landlords to provide concessions and other incentives to attract new or retain existing tenants, making the sub-sector a tenants’ market


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Absorption of Grade A and B office space in Nairobi declined by 8% in the period compared to the second half of 2018. The decline in office uptake and stagnation of rental prices is mainly attributed to the continued oversupply of commercial space in some locations and the current economic slowdown. As a result, some landlords are providing concessions such as longer fit-out periods, partial contributions towards tenant fit-outs, or giving discounted rentals so as to retain existing tenants and attract new one


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Prime residential sale prices in Nairobi decreased by 1.8% over the first half of 2019 compared to a decline of 0.4% in the first half of 2018, pushing the annual decline to 6.7% in the year to June. Prime residential rents also declined over the review period by 1.68% compared to 0.33% over a similar period in 2018, taking the annual decline to 3.3% in the year to June. The decline in both prime residential sale and rental prices is mainly attributed to the continued oversupply of residential developments in certain locations such as Karen and the ongoing credit crunch which has resulted in reduced money circulation. These factors have transformed the market in favour of buyers and tenants, even as some multinationals continue to downsize while fewer expatriates are relocating to Kenya, impacting negatively on the niche market.
wukan
#145 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2019 1:06:53 PM
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Dubai meanwhile is in the mix of a major correction.

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Dubai’s ruler issued a directive on Monday that would curb the pace of new real estate construction projects as property prices fall and the sheer scale of developments threatens to outstrip demand.

Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum ordered the creation of a committee to study the needs of the real estate market, evaluate all future projects and control the pace of projects, a statement by Dubai’s Media Office said.

The move comes amid a slowdown in Dubai’s economy and a slump in real estate prices.

Dubai’s real estate sector is a bellwether for its economy. It not only caters to the emirate’s residents, but also attracts wealthy investors from around the world seeking a safe place to put their money.

Property values, however, have been steadily dipping. A report by UAE-based Property Finder found that Dubai apartment and villa sale prices for the first half of 2019 were down around 12% compared to two years ago.

https://www.apnews.com/7...bc048baabe4056025be75dd


Always wonder why anyone would buy property in a city designed for cars instead of people.
MugundaMan
#146 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2019 1:58:39 PM
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wukan wrote:
1st Half Knight Frank report...not looking good in matters real estate

Quote:
Rents for prime retail shops decreased by approximately 5.9% to US$ 4.8 per square foot per month in the first half of 2019, while service charges across retail malls in Kenya ranged from Ksh 45 to Ksh 60/sq ft/month. The decline in rentals is mainly attributed to the current economic situation and less money in circulation, resulting in reduced spending by consumers. Additionally, oversupply of retail space in certain locations has resulted in pressure on landlords to provide concessions and other incentives to attract new or retain existing tenants, making the sub-sector a tenants’ market


Quote:
Absorption of Grade A and B office space in Nairobi declined by 8% in the period compared to the second half of 2018. The decline in office uptake and stagnation of rental prices is mainly attributed to the continued oversupply of commercial space in some locations and the current economic slowdown. As a result, some landlords are providing concessions such as longer fit-out periods, partial contributions towards tenant fit-outs, or giving discounted rentals so as to retain existing tenants and attract new one


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Prime residential sale prices in Nairobi decreased by 1.8% over the first half of 2019 compared to a decline of 0.4% in the first half of 2018, pushing the annual decline to 6.7% in the year to June. Prime residential rents also declined over the review period by 1.68% compared to 0.33% over a similar period in 2018, taking the annual decline to 3.3% in the year to June. The decline in both prime residential sale and rental prices is mainly attributed to the continued oversupply of residential developments in certain locations such as Karen and the ongoing credit crunch which has resulted in reduced money circulation. These factors have transformed the market in favour of buyers and tenants, even as some multinationals continue to downsize while fewer expatriates are relocating to Kenya, impacting negatively on the niche market.


Wukan, I love the way how every day your posts support my DC is the future assertion.

-You admitted that Nairobi core is DOOMED due to sewerage water coming out of the taps in Lavington!
- Now this!

Move away FAST to DC before Nairobi core completely collapses with oversupply,toxic sewage and a disaster of a toxic sludge bowl named Nairobi river coursing through all the poshest hoods causing skyrocketing levels of cancer!!
Laughing out loudly
wukan
#147 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2019 2:30:49 PM
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MugundaMan wrote:


Wukan, I love the way how every day your posts support my DC is the future assertion.

-You admitted that Nairobi core is DOOMED due to sewerage water coming out of the taps in Lavington!
- Now this!

Move away FAST to DC before Nairobi core completely collapses with oversupply,toxic sewage and a disaster of a toxic sludge bowl named Nairobi river coursing through all the poshest hoods causing skyrocketing levels of cancer!!
Laughing out loudly


One leaky pipe cannot doom Nairobi coreLaughing out loudly

Sit tight if Nairobi core sneezes DC will be out with pneumonia. Of all the options I have DC would be the last place.Laughing out loudly
MugundaMan
#148 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2019 3:26:06 PM
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wukan wrote:
MugundaMan wrote:


Wukan, I love the way how every day your posts support my DC is the future assertion.

-You admitted that Nairobi core is DOOMED due to sewerage water coming out of the taps in Lavington!
- Now this!

Move away FAST to DC before Nairobi core completely collapses with oversupply,toxic sewage and a disaster of a toxic sludge bowl named Nairobi river coursing through all the poshest hoods causing skyrocketing levels of cancer!!
Laughing out loudly


One leaky pipe cannot doom Nairobi coreLaughing out loudly

Sit tight if Nairobi core sneezes DC will be out with pneumonia. Of all the options I have DC would be the last place.Laughing out loudly


Nairobi River is one helliuva "small leaky pipe" my braddah, wouldn't you agree?

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https://www.nation.co.ke...7058-107oy9o/index.html

https://www.businessdail...262-12jcmauz/index.html



My friend, the fact that you are not scared for your life when Nairobi River sewage water full of DEAD BODIES seems like a small leaky pipe to you scares me!Sad Sad Sad

Cancer rates do not skyrocket by accident. Most of these big shots dying of cancer have mansions next to the "small leaky pipe"

Have you jogged the bypass between Riverside Dr and Westlands Roundabout. My bradza, I made the mistake of stopping to peak into the Nairobi River below one day. The smell wauu wauu wauu. Then ten shondes floating fuaaa merrily down the river. Those veggies you buy at Chandarana and Zucchini are all grown with NBI river water bro.

Come to DC. Maji fresh flowing zwuuu nicely into our rain water tanks. Biodigester waste is PURE H20 and no need for exhausting. Veggies are CLEAAAAAAAAN and home grown in pesticide free soil. Eggs are of course Kienyeji from free range kuku. Life expectancy in DC will soon shoot to 100 while in Nai core the stress of smelling the floating shondes alone has reduced life expectancy to 55 at most in my humble view!
hardwood
#149 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2019 4:38:54 PM
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Karen is also choking under sewerage. Residents cant sleep due to the sickening smell. No where is safe in the damn city....


MugundaMan
#150 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2019 5:01:53 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Karen is also choking under sewerage. Residents cant sleep due to the sickening smell. No where is safe in the damn city....




Wukans paradise Laughing out loudly
What a pity.
wukan
#151 Posted : Thursday, January 30, 2020 12:42:22 PM
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interesting stuff....like I said if Nairobi sneezes DC will catch pneumonia

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HassConsult today released the annual Hass Property Index results for 2019, showing that property prices in satellite towns dropped by 0.5 percent on an annual basis, the first such drop since 2008 when the index was launched.

The fall in house prices in satellite towns on an annual basis bucks the trend as these suburbs have traditionally recorded annual growth in house prices driven by investors who are holding off buying decisions due to the challenging economic environment.

House prices in satellite towns drop by 0.5 per cent in 2019, the first ever drop since 2008, showing home buyers in these areas are finding the economic environment challenging.

Rents in Nairobi suburbs cool falling by 2.3 per cent on an annual basis and 1.3 per cent over the quarter

Juja recorded the highest drop over both the quarter and year at 1.9 percent and 9.6 percent respectively courtesy of a price correction in the satellite town.

On the rental front satellite towns recorded a 2.1 percent drop in rents over the year while Nairobi recorded a 2.3 percent
drop in asking prices over the same period.



Quote:

• In 2001, Apartments took up 23.5% of the market,
semi-detached took up 24.5% of the market and detached houses took up 52% of the market

• In December 2019 however, Apartments took up 61.1% of the market, Semi-detached Houses took up 25.7% of the market and Detached Houses took up 13.2% of the market

slick
#152 Posted : Thursday, January 30, 2020 2:18:48 PM
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wukan wrote:
interesting stuff....like I said if Nairobi sneezes DC will catch pneumonia

Quote:
HassConsult today released the annual Hass Property Index results for 2019, showing that property prices in satellite towns dropped by 0.5 percent on an annual basis, the first such drop since 2008 when the index was launched.

The fall in house prices in satellite towns on an annual basis bucks the trend as these suburbs have traditionally recorded annual growth in house prices driven by investors who are holding off buying decisions due to the challenging economic environment.

House prices in satellite towns drop by 0.5 per cent in 2019, the first ever drop since 2008, showing home buyers in these areas are finding the economic environment challenging.

Rents in Nairobi suburbs cool falling by 2.3 per cent on an annual basis and 1.3 per cent over the quarter

Juja recorded the highest drop over both the quarter and year at 1.9 percent and 9.6 percent respectively courtesy of a price correction in the satellite town.

On the rental front satellite towns recorded a 2.1 percent drop in rents over the year while Nairobi recorded a 2.3 percent
drop in asking prices over the same period.



Quote:

• In 2001, Apartments took up 23.5% of the market,
semi-detached took up 24.5% of the market and detached houses took up 52% of the market

• In December 2019 however, Apartments took up 61.1% of the market, Semi-detached Houses took up 25.7% of the market and Detached Houses took up 13.2% of the market




Well at least Kenyan real estate isnt built up on ultra low interest rates,cheap lending and total disregard of credit analysis standards like the sub-prime mortgage mess of the US and currently the insane housing bubble in Australia,Canada and Hongkong.Such laxity creates enormous bubbles that violently burst like in the 2008 housing recession.

Just to leave a shocker here.SOME DANISH BANKS ARE OFFERING MORTGAGES AT NEGATIVE INTEREST RATES.WHAT!!!Check out below Danske bank in Denmark offering mortgages at MINUS 0.5% to ensure mass buying of houses and boost the economy.



https://www.cnbc.com/201...ive-interest-rates.html

What if Kenyan banks offered mortgages at negative interest rate ie. its almost the bank paying you to take a mortgage.Insane isnt it.Every Otieno,Wanjiku,Mutisya will line up to take such a mortgage

Contrarian Investor and Trader.Advocate of free markets,limited government interference in the economy and sound money
wukan
#153 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2020 8:14:02 AM
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Interesting how things turn

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Health concerns amid the Covid-19 pandemic could have informed renewed demand for low-density buildings with townhouses dominating the property market to edge out lowly priced apartments.

The quarter one Housing Price Index report by Kenya Bankers Association (KBA) indicates a change of heart among property seekers who sought townhouses unlike in the past when apartments were popular due to proximity to urban centres and price friendliness.

“While the market remained largely depressed, the marginal easing was supported by the supply-demand interaction with a leaning towards more demand in a relative context,” the KBA-HPI indicates, adding demand shifts in the quarter were based on concluded sales, which rose by 13.95 percent.



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Further, unlike in prior quarters usually characterized by high demand for apartments,quarter one of 2020 was one characterized by a run for townhouses which accounted for 45 percent of the units sold. Apartments accounted for 33 percent, bungalows and Maisonettes accounting for 12 percent and 10 percent respectively.
amorphous
#154 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2020 9:21:04 AM
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wukan wrote:
Interesting how things turn

Quote:
Health concerns amid the Covid-19 pandemic could have informed renewed demand for low-density buildings with townhouses dominating the property market to edge out lowly priced apartments.

The quarter one Housing Price Index report by Kenya Bankers Association (KBA) indicates a change of heart among property seekers who sought townhouses unlike in the past when apartments were popular due to proximity to urban centres and price friendliness.

“While the market remained largely depressed, the marginal easing was supported by the supply-demand interaction with a leaning towards more demand in a relative context,” the KBA-HPI indicates, adding demand shifts in the quarter were based on concluded sales, which rose by 13.95 percent.



Quote:
Further, unlike in prior quarters usually characterized by high demand for apartments,quarter one of 2020 was one characterized by a run for townhouses which accounted for 45 percent of the units sold. Apartments accounted for 33 percent, bungalows and Maisonettes accounting for 12 percent and 10 percent respectively.



Dustbowlites like Mulmulwas Mugundaman told you guys this two years ago but you refused to listen. Apartment life has all sorts of hazards. Townhouses and maisonettes with their own spacious gardens are the future. Nobody wants to contract covid and cholera in a cramped Nairobi apartment!
New Normal!
amorphous
#155 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2020 9:29:12 AM
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Look how these njamaas and njamalettes are crying big time in apartments
In an apartment you have almost zero control of your life once you exit your door!
To repair water woes, you have to involve the whole estate, to cry over water pressure..same same. Everything is just a mess. Service charge defaulters ndio hao hao. No wonder the cartels move in to exploit the chaos! a Maisonette owner on the other hand ametulia raha mustarehe tuliiii. You will never here them complaining ati cartels have conspired not to pump water into my tank.
New Normal!
wukan
#156 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2022 7:24:45 AM
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Quote:
Renting apartments in Nairobi’s central business district (CBD) can be up to 126 percent more expensive than leasing properties in the capital’s periphery, according to market and consumer data firm Statista.

The monthly rent for a one-bedroom house in the CBD is about $432.33 (Sh49,761) compared to $191.32 (Sh22,020) in the suburbs. A three-bedroom apartment in the CBD costs an average of $990.75 (Sh114,035) a month while leasing a similar property on the outskirts of the city costs $476.21 (Sh54,811).

“In Nairobi, Kenya, renting a one-bedroom apartment in the city centre cost almost as much as a three-bedroom apartment outside the city centre in 2022,” said Statista.

The data shows the high returns enjoyed by landlords owning properties in the core areas of the city. The returns are particularly high for those who built or acquired the houses more than a decade ago when building costs and buying prices were relatively lower.

Location is the primary determining factor of housing prices in the capital cities with the prime properties in or close to the CBD consistently outperforming those farther from the business district.




Properties in the core of the capital nonetheless continue to command a premium

MugundaMan
#157 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2022 8:51:08 AM
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MugundaMan wrote:

Nairobi River is one helliuva "small leaky pipe" my braddah, wouldn't you agree?

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https://www.nation.co.ke...7058-107oy9o/index.html

https://www.businessdail...262-12jcmauz/index.html



My friend, the fact that you are not scared for your life when Nairobi River sewage water full of DEAD BODIES seems like a small leaky pipe to you scares me!Sad Sad Sad

Cancer rates do not skyrocket by accident. Most of these big shots dying of cancer have mansions next to the "small leaky pipe"

Have you jogged the bypass between Riverside Dr and Westlands Roundabout. My bradza, I made the mistake of stopping to peak into the Nairobi River below one day. The smell wauu wauu wauu. Then ten shondes floating fuaaa merrily down the river. Those veggies you buy at Chandarana and Zucchini are all grown with NBI river water bro.

Come to DC. Maji fresh flowing zwuuu nicely into our rain water tanks. Biodigester waste is PURE H20 and no need for exhausting. Veggies are CLEAAAAAAAAN and home grown in pesticide free soil. Eggs are of course Kienyeji from free range kuku. Life expectancy in DC will soon shoot to 100 while in Nai core the stress of smelling the floating shondes alone has reduced life expectancy to 55 at most in my humble view!


I had forgotten about this epic post. Thanks for bringing up this thread.

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