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In the short run, the market is like a voting machine --tallying up which firms are popular and unpopular. But in the long run, the market is like a weighing machine --assessing the substance of a company. - Benjamin Graham Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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More bad news. More bad debts for financial institutions. One in five Kenyans trapped by bank loansQuote:One in every five borrowers in the country has defaulted on a loan in the past one year, a new survey has established, revealing tough times for households, farmers, business owners and workers hit by the harsh economy.
The Financial Sector Deepening (FSD) survey, which has the backing of the Central Bank of Kenya (CBK), shows that farmers who form the bedrock of the country’s economy are the worst-hit by the debt crisis.
Also affected are low-income households and employees whom the survey shows are living in a debt cycle.
“Levels of debt stress are high across the board but particularly for farmers, the elderly and the poor. For these groups, difficulties in repaying loans resulted in asset sales, cutting back on expenditure, or borrowing to repay existing loans,” says the FSD Kenya study published late last month.
CBK data shows commercial banks had total outstanding loans of Sh2.7 trillion as at the end of May this year, of which Sh430.1 billion was lent to private households. Even the wealthy are having a difficult time: Quote:“Two thirds of borrowers in the country have experienced at least two symptoms of debt stress including default,” it says. “This includes being over-leveraged and selling assets, borrowing and cutting expenditure to repay loans”.
The wealthy have not been spared from the dent stress either, says the study although employees are feeling the weight of the loans more.
“Compared to the poor, wealthier groups may be over-leveraged, with a third of wealthy borrowers having debt service payments of over half their monthly expenditure. For the employed this is as high as 40 percent,” says the study.
linkConventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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Remember Elliott Waves helped us to nail the start of the bear in the NSE when the index was still above 5400 points. It also helped us to nail the recent bottom in Bitcoin (see bitcoin threads). Perhaps it's time you reconsider your method of analyzing the market and settle to learn Elliott Waves? NB: The journey to unlearn all the ideas you have about investing and market analysis and to embrace Elliott Waves is not easy. But there is tons of material all over the internet and specifically at www.elliottwave.com to guide you. Welcome aboard Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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It will be painful for some in the short-term but in the long-term, I think a massive reduction in "personal loans" and "mobile lending" - usually for small amounts at crazy rates - will benefit the borrowers and economy. Whereas, I do not support "bans" and such, there is a social good issue at play. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Which insurance companies are strong enough to make acquisitions
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mnandii wrote:obiero wrote:wukan wrote:lochaz-index wrote:NSE20 at 2545 some 185 points shy of the GFC low of 2360. This bear is excruciating to watch...death by a thousand cuts. Some bounce expected but with the global economy skiding precipitously do not expect it to last long. H2 is shaping up to be alot more interesting. Really painful to watch...never thought I would see the index this low. Insurance companies must be gnashing their teeth. On the other hand Tbills yields are low and banks are liquid, you would expect some action on equities. The market is lonely and deserted Nothing is impossible. Few people saw this coming. Its time to buy!  DON'T BUY! Looks like NSE20 will go below 2500 today. interesting times
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wukan wrote:mnandii wrote:obiero wrote:wukan wrote:lochaz-index wrote:NSE20 at 2545 some 185 points shy of the GFC low of 2360. This bear is excruciating to watch...death by a thousand cuts. Some bounce expected but with the global economy skiding precipitously do not expect it to last long. H2 is shaping up to be alot more interesting. Really painful to watch...never thought I would see the index this low. Insurance companies must be gnashing their teeth. On the other hand Tbills yields are low and banks are liquid, you would expect some action on equities. The market is lonely and deserted Nothing is impossible. Few people saw this coming. Its time to buy! DON'T BUY! Looks like NSE20 will go below 2500 today. interesting times Closes at 2501....the bleeding continues ..September/October will be interesting especially with the likes of Safaricom and KCB going ex -dividend .
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cnn wrote:wukan wrote:mnandii wrote:obiero wrote:wukan wrote:lochaz-index wrote:NSE20 at 2545 some 185 points shy of the GFC low of 2360. This bear is excruciating to watch...death by a thousand cuts. Some bounce expected but with the global economy skiding precipitously do not expect it to last long. H2 is shaping up to be alot more interesting. Really painful to watch...never thought I would see the index this low. Insurance companies must be gnashing their teeth. On the other hand Tbills yields are low and banks are liquid, you would expect some action on equities. The market is lonely and deserted Nothing is impossible. Few people saw this coming. Its time to buy! DON'T BUY! Looks like NSE20 will go below 2500 today. interesting times Closes at 2501....the bleeding continues ..September/October will be interesting especially with the likes of Safaricom and KCB going ex -dividend . Harvest whatever you can and acquire whatever you can Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Back in 2016 lochaz-index wrote:cnn wrote:lochaz-index wrote:Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:Next support, 3070 low of December 2011,below that opens up to 2360, the March 2009 GFC lows. I am still working with the the base case scenario that we will probably not bottom out till we are in sub 2000 territory. Working with that presupposition even the GFC low won't hold. Do you figure what kind of stock prices would bring NSE 20 to that? EABL@150,SAFCOM @10,Equity @ 21,Centum@24,BAT@450..Much as i look forward to nice discounts that would be insanity and i had enough of it in 09 to last me a lifetime. Kudos if you took advantage of the discounts back then. So far the hallmark of this bear has been stealth unlike the heavy metal version for the better part of the GFC period. We are 1year three months into its run currently (an 8 month limbo included) but the pain is yet to register. The GFC peak to trough crash lasted about 1 year and six months(with a one year back and forth stagnation) whereas the 2011 mini bear took 1 year and three months. In both periods, NSE20 was lagging the turmoil happening elsewhere. This time our market is frontrunning the chaos having shed close to 2000 points in the process. From the fundies side, both KE and global economic conditions don't look particularly encouraging, if anything they are a lot more anemic than during the GFC. The end of this business cycle is fast approaching and it will most likely resolve the excesses that were swept under the carpet in the recent past. It's anyone's guess what will break the markets but the worst is yet to come and the CB's won't know what hit them. If this plays out to its logical conclusion, GFC might end up looking like child's play when compared to what's unfolding. To bring the sub 2000 call into perspective, consider the GFC to have been a prelude/dress rehearsal to the main event. Most African economies are bound to overheat - some are already there - thanks to inflation and KE will not be an exception. As for the mentioned target prices after the crash has occurred, I will let Mr market to tackle that since anything is possible. On the flip side, if this bear turns out to be as severe as I think it will, the subsequent bull phase will redefine the word insanity. Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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