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misdemeanour
#1 Posted : Thursday, July 01, 2010 4:06:33 PM
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Hi, has any one of us ever managed at securing a govt tender? am just preparing my docs to secure one and as much as am told i have to oil quite a few hands, is there anything else outside the margins i shd knu about? i REALLY need to hack this one Pray

oh yeah...and i hear it can take up to a year for the gava to pay up...how tru is this?
Am paid in Kshs.
DonBen
#2 Posted : Thursday, July 01, 2010 4:23:11 PM
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misdemeanour wrote:
Hi, has any one of us ever managed at securing a govt tender?


Yes! Definitely...

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am just preparing my docs to secure one and as much as am told i have to oil quite a few hands,


Not always, depends which department and for what goods or services. Some token of appreciation, like sending diaries and wall calendars at the end of the year is not bad, but neither is it compulsory!

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is there anything else outside the margins i shd knu about? i REALLY need to hack this one Pray

Your bid must (note emphasis) be fully responsive. Its not just price that lock bidders out; majority are locked out by ignorance and assumptions. Look at the documents required to make tender complete, strive to achieve top marks in evaluation criteria as well as be compliant with commercial and technical terms. ie. fully responsive.

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oh yeah...and i hear it can take up to a year for the gava to pay up...how tru is this?


Not true. Government is reformed! Some ministry pay within thirty days. It all depends on nature of contract and which particular department. Others pay a percentage in advance for mobilisation depending again on nature of contract.

GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!
misdemeanour
#3 Posted : Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:10:18 PM
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wow DonBen....quite a mouthful to reason out smile

am actually looking at bidding for supply of stationery, nothing too complicated

am doing it largely on my own and i THINK i have everything ready but being my first time am not quite sure...Sad

i have wanted to get into the tender business and as much as am still apprehensive about it and still feel like am taking a bit of a risk, am willing to try :)

thanks bro

Am paid in Kshs.
slammers
#4 Posted : Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:58:48 PM
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u need the following
Copy of receipt
Vat cert
Pin no
Cert of registration
Audited ac 2years
Vat compliance
suwan
#5 Posted : Thursday, July 01, 2010 6:42:06 PM
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I need to start tendering but I ma disadvantaged by the fact that my company was registered last month...is there hope for me?
DonBen
#6 Posted : Friday, July 02, 2010 12:46:45 PM
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suwan wrote:
I need to start tendering but I ma disadvantaged by the fact that my company was registered last month...is there hope for me?


Excerpt from the The Public Procurement and Disposal Act 2005 ......
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31.(1) A person is qualified to be awarded a contract for a procurement only if the person satisfies the following criteria:

(a) the person has the necessary qualifications, capability, experience, resources, equipment and facilities to provide what is being procured;

(b) the person has the legal capacity to enter into a contract for the procurement;

(c) the person is not insolvent, in receivership, bankrupt or in the process of being wound up and is not the subject of legal proceedings relating to the foregoing;

(d) the procuring entity is not precluded from entering into the contract with the person under section 33;

(e) the person is not debarred from participating in procurement proceedings under Part IX.
Wodu Wakiri
#7 Posted : Friday, July 02, 2010 2:29:49 PM
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Misdemeanor:

As advised above,
1.get your paperwork in order: VAT Certificate, PIN Certificate, Certificate of Registration/Incorporation, Tax Compliance Certificate, City Council Business Permit.
2.Preliminary Evaluation (vendor evaluation): Here the procuring entity will be checking for the documents in (1) above and also others such as Confidential Business Questionaire, Audited Financial accounts and any other requirements that had been stipulated in the Tender document.
3.Reference Sites: Include a summary of some of your existing clients-a referral letter from one or two of them will aid your cause.
4.Financial Evaluation: As a rule of thumb, the procuring entity will pick the LOWEST EVALUATED Bidder as winner. That is, the bidder quoting the least amount of the ones that passed the preliminary and technical evaluations (applies when bidding to supply technical products and services). The PPOA usually publishes the market price index of common products-eg stationery. Try to quote within their boundaries.
5. Prequalification of suppliers: Strive to be prequalified as a supplier in as many govt bodies as possible. This way, you get invited to participate in many more procurement processes thereby increasing your chances of bagging one.
6.Professionalism: Deliver your goods on time, present your company professionally etc.
7.Networking: Try and be on good terms with procurement officers in your target organizations (customers). Give them a call once in a while-they'll no doubt remember you when evaluating tenders (they are only human).
8.Quotations: In your line of products (stationery), quotations are the most common procurement modes (not tenders). Quotations are only floated to prequalified suppliers. (see 5).
the sage
#8 Posted : Monday, July 05, 2010 10:35:52 AM
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@Wodu Wakiri, Don Ben, I am also in a similar position. But under the
The Public Procurement and Disposal Act 2005.
39. Participation in procurement.
39.(1) Candidates shall participate in procurement proceedings without
discrimination except where participation is limited in accordance with this Act
and the regulations.
(2) Subject to subsection (8), the Minister shall, in consideration of economic and
social development factors, prescribe preferences and or reservations in public
procurement and disposal.
(4) The preferences and reservations shall apply to -
(a) candidates such as disadvantaged groups, micro, small and medium
enterprises;

How do I use this to get preferential treatment given the obstacles that newly formed companies face?
misdemeanour
#9 Posted : Monday, July 05, 2010 10:42:23 AM
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@Wodu, thanks for the above. Seeing as this is my first tender application, how would you advise i go about the reference part. Mine is a reasonably small business and its 11 months old now...would this work to my disadvantage?
Am paid in Kshs.
the sage
#10 Posted : Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:35:46 PM
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@Wodu Wakiri, still waiting.
Wodu Wakiri
#11 Posted : Tuesday, July 06, 2010 1:45:50 PM
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@ the Sage,
The directives on preferential treatment are rarely enforced (just like very many other clauses in the PPD Act. To be honest, it is unlikely that you'll given business on the basis of these "preference" clauses.
As I said in the earlier post, your best bet is to get involved in as many procurement processes as possible. As a target,make sure you are prequalified as a supplier in as many public bodies as possible (say at least 10). This is going to cost you some money (each entity may require anything between 2k and 5k for purchase of prequalification documents). My advise is avoid the bigger agencies for now (the KRAs, the KPAs, bigger ministries, etc). Target the smaller parastatals and smaller ministries (ERC, TARDA, KLB, ministry of Northern region, local authorities etc). There's less competition there and the bureaucracy is not that convoluted.
It is hard work and requires frequent follow ups and basically keeping your ear to the ground. And remember, government is the largest consumer everywhere in the world. If you are not doing business with the government, you are missing out on a sizeable chunk of the market.
Wodu Wakiri
#12 Posted : Tuesday, July 06, 2010 1:54:25 PM
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Misdemeanor,

11 Months is not as short as you think if you have been trading. Also if you have at least one satisfied customer, that's all you need for a reference. then build on that.
Wodu Wakiri
#13 Posted : Tuesday, July 06, 2010 2:04:13 PM
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General word of caution:

Government Business is not glamorous and neither is it for the fainthearted. One has to roll up their sleeves, visit government offices religiously, interact with procurement officers at a very personal level, meet with the same fellows after hours for a drink or two, be personable to them (there's a tendency of people looking down upon government workers) etc.
Govt not be hosted in posh and swanky offices but nothing beats the feeling of hearing these words: "kuja uchukue LPO yako".
DonBen
#14 Posted : Tuesday, July 06, 2010 2:57:38 PM
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@Wodu Wakiri

Well said.
the sage
#15 Posted : Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:49:20 AM
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@Wodu Wakiri, thank you for the insights. It is interesting that a relationship manager will use the expense account to court a client but will he/she treat the civil servant the same?
I too hope actually know that I will savor those words, "Kuja uchukue tender yako."
Better yet, "Kuja uchukue cheque yako."
mukiha
#16 Posted : Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:37:32 AM
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Here is my strategy:

I assess potential value versus the chances of success.

At the moment I have very low chance of success in GoK tenders, even though the potential value is large.

So I don't struggle to acquire them.... unless they come calling and asking me to bid.

It happened 2yrs ago with Kenya Pipeline. They advertised the tender and called me to alert me about it. They knew I was the only person in the country who could provide the required service, but they had to advertise.

As it turned out, I was the only bidder--- In the end, they decided they did not need that service so much after all.

No sweat; life goes on.
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
suwan
#17 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:57:19 PM
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At WW...my company just got registered...so wea do I start in this case. All I have is the certificate of incorporation/registration....

mebb u shld send me an invoice after thisApplause
mukiha
#18 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 2:46:23 PM
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suwan wrote:
At WW...my company just got registered...so wea do I start in this case. All I have is the certificate of incorporation/registration....

mebb u shld send me an invoice after thisApplause

Now check the daily press for tender adverts.
See what you can supply.
Buy the tender document.
Fill it.
Attach all documents requested.
And submit.
Go for tender opening...most people submit their tender on the opening day [5 - 10min] before closing time and then accompany the tendering staff to the board-room to witness the opening.

It's that easy.
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
deadpoet
#19 Posted : Wednesday, August 01, 2012 12:45:24 PM
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Anyone willing to discuss tendering in light of the new proposal to allocate 10% of all govt contracts to youth enterprises?

Rink: www.yagpo.go.ke
digitek1
#20 Posted : Friday, August 03, 2012 2:29:10 PM
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deadpoet wrote:
Anyone willing to discuss tendering in light of the new proposal to allocate 10% of all govt contracts to youth enterprises?

Rink: www.yagpo.go.ke

easier said than done. May be just another populist poilcy like KKV
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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