..even if you were to leave ODM/Jubilee, are there no interest groups he could have consulted to enrich the bill?

That proposal to reduce number of MPs to be based on number of counties, what's the rationale? How can Lamu with sub 300K pax have same vote as Nairobi with 4m+? I mean, we have had a system of representation last 50yrs and one person wakes up one day to change and all the 40m + Kenyans just start cheering no questions casked???

We may have situation where I might like some proposals in Aukot Bill and not like others, and ditto for BBI. So how do i vote? And assuming Aukot bill passes, what if he comes up with another bill say after 6 months to change same things. Do ee have any guide on these things. We should stop the talk of referendum first and create a law to guide the process

Equal representation. We are all Kenyans.

If there were to be consultations then the consultation should have been made to an appropriate simulator and multidisciplinary committee to help formulate potential bills that fit well and then from a selected class, work out the best bill by pay off/cost value.

We can no longer isolate political processes from the economic ones. And in this case the basic structure of the economy is how individuals meet their hungers under the constraints of communal living.

Such thinking would direct us more in the way of 'positive liberty' than the negative liberty concepts implied by the Aukot Bill.

This one died when Baba called it "ati punguza gunia". Dead on arrival

Let us be honest.

If punguza mizigo went to the masses right now, there will be no need to campaign. It would pass at 80% levels.

What I see here is sour grapes. Odomo could not even garner 20k signatures. Njumbiree can't even say sorry for not giving us laptops.

There is a law about how to change the constitution. It is right there. You get signatures and it moves to the MCA's. The MCA's pass it and we let the people decide.

This BBI is not anchored on any laws. Just a bunch of fat overpaid politicians who think they know what we want.

BBI shall fail.

I have said before, Ruto needs to outgrow these cartels. It's simple, vote for Punguza Mzigo and lets see what these so called royal families shall do about it.

Ati consultations? What more consultations do you need than 1.2 million Kenyans deciding that they like Punguza Mzigo.

If the royal families are soooo confident, let them bring here for us to vote for it. Watakiona.

Amendment by popular initiative.
257. (1) An amendment to this Constitution may be proposed by a popular initiative signed by at least one million registered voters.
(2) A popular initiative for an amendment to this Constitution may be in the form of a general suggestion or a formulated draft Bill.
(3) If a popular initiative is in the form of a general suggestion, the promoters of that popular initiative shall formulate it into a draft Bill.
(4) The promoters of a popular initiative shall deliver the draft Bill and the supporting signatures to the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission, which shall verify that the initiative is supported by at least one million registered voters.
(5) If the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission is satisfied that the initiative meets the requirements of this Article, the Commission shall submit the draft Bill to each county assembly for consideration within three months after the date it was submitted by
the Commission.
(6) If a county assembly approves the draft Bill within three months after the date it was submitted by the Commission, the speaker of the county assembly shall deliver a copy of the draft Bill jointly to the Speakers of the two Houses of Parliament, with a certificate that the county assembly has approved it.
(7) If a draft Bill has been approved by a majority of the county assemblies, it shall be introduced in Parliament without delay.
(8) A Bill under this Article is passed by Parliament if supported by a majority of the members of each House.
(9) If Parliament passes the Bill, it shall be submitted to the President for assent in accordance with Articles 256 (4) and (5).
(10) If either House of Parliament fails to pass the Bill, or the Bill relates to a matter mentioned in 255 (1), the proposed amendment shall be submitted to the people in a referendum.
(11) Article 255 (2) applies, with any necessary modifications, to a referendum under clause (10).

We are at 257(5) Thing does not require that consultation crap. They think collecting REAL 1,000,000 signatures from REAL registered voters is child play?

And can these BBI fellas tell us what they understand by the term popular initiative. Are you consulting and convincing voters when asking for the signatures? Warudi shule!

I didn't see requirement for signature verification only registered voter. I did it online and don't remember signing anything! 1.2 Million voters registered we did it!

Every day I get the impression majority of Kenyans even wazuans here don't understand our new katiba.
Parliament is the most powerful institution created under the new constitution.

If the president today appointed me to be Kenya's ambassador to South Africa, I would not celebrate yet. Until the foreign affairs committee are done with their vetting and approve my appointment. If they say no, that is the end. That goes for any presidential appointment.

If the finance and budget committees refuse to allocate money for the extension of the highway from Kenol to Marua (Nyeri), that will be the end of the matter. This is the project Uhuru wants to use to silence critics who have been accusing him of abandoning his people.

The president is powerless when dealing with JSC, but the legal affairs committee is not. If this committee wanted a certian judge out, it will have its way.

The president can't touch the IGP. But the internal security committee can force the national police service commission to act.

Now Aukot wants to make sure Kiambu with its 2.5M residents will have 2 votes same as Samburu Turkana and Lamu.

@FRM2011 na wengine wako na tabia kama zako

No one has said that after punguza mzigo, there shall no corruption. Babayao and co will continue stealing with without BBI or punguza mzigo.


I can see political parties trying to dance around this bill. All they want us to to is vote for Raila to become prime minister and Lot becomes president...Absolutely no checks and balances.

I am a citizen. Even worse, 3 Mpigs and 2 governors are people we went to karumaindo with.

They are now all BBi and want more money. I think I reminded one of them that he was still stupid in campus..Alafu he blocked me.

Forget about imaginary scenarios.

Constitutions are meant to solve CURRENT problems which SHALL affect our kids.

Our current problem is not laaaira or brookside or Lot.

Let them steal but that's not the issue.

I don't want stupid mpigs going to Amelikaaa to learn things they can google.

I want you FRM2011 to suffer in your gishagi because of your choices.....Yet my MCA is sharper than yours.


And heck, I want all Mpigs shot and decapitated leo jioni at 6pm Sato.

Bullshit.

Coming from Odomo and Njumbiree. This one shall pass.