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obiero
#121 Posted : Tuesday, March 05, 2019 9:33:26 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
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Location: nairobi
Superprime1 wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:


Link to kenya power profit warning announcement

It's being prepared as we speak. Expect it anytime before Monday


This was expected going by HY results;
https://www.businessdail...672-12m4sv2z/index.html

Link now available.. The only question remaining is why with government declaration that we are currently having the most connections countrywide.. Why is the company failing??? Your guess is as good as mine. Anyone who heard the president closing remark today knows where the problem lies, "huyu mtu anapinga umoja, akwende, apotee!"

4. HF Group https://af.reuters.com/a...kenyaNews/idAFL8N1Y50E2

5. Bamburi Cement https://www.businessdail...78864-kibyt9/index.html

6. Unga Group https://kenyanwallstreet...f-year-profit-drops-40/[/quote]

Welcome back @Obiero! Welcome, to Hotel California; where you can check out anytime but you can't leave!

That Sanlam loss outcome is much steeper than expected https://www.businessdail...09922-8f2tdxz/index.html

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#122 Posted : Wednesday, March 06, 2019 9:38:40 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,501
Location: nairobi
obiero wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:


Link to kenya power profit warning announcement

It's being prepared as we speak. Expect it anytime before Monday


This was expected going by HY results;
https://www.businessdail...672-12m4sv2z/index.html

Link now available.. The only question remaining is why with government declaration that we are currently having the most connections countrywide.. Why is the company failing??? Your guess is as good as mine. Anyone who heard the president closing remark today knows where the problem lies, "huyu mtu anapinga umoja, akwende, apotee!"

4. HF Group https://af.reuters.com/a...kenyaNews/idAFL8N1Y50E2

5. Bamburi Cement https://www.businessdail...78864-kibyt9/index.html

6. Unga Group https://kenyanwallstreet...f-year-profit-drops-40/[/quote]

Welcome back @Obiero! Welcome, to Hotel California; where you can check out anytime but you can't leave!

That Sanlam loss outcome is much steeper than expected https://www.businessdail...9922-8f2tdxz/index.html

7. EAPCC https://kenyanwallstreet...t-issues-profit-warning/

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
murchr
#123 Posted : Wednesday, March 06, 2019 11:04:14 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Only Safcom and banks are making money
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Ericsson
#124 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2019 7:34:03 AM
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murchr wrote:
Only Safcom and banks are making money


Banks top line is flat,they are propping up profits through reduction in operational expenses and loan loss provisions
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
mlennyma
#125 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:54:00 AM
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Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
murchr wrote:
Only Safcom and banks are making money


Banks top line is flat,they are propping up profits through reduction in operational expenses and loan loss provisions

Top banks are highly profitable businesses no doubt about it.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
obiero
#126 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2019 9:34:19 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
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Location: nairobi
mlennyma wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
murchr wrote:
Only Safcom and banks are making money


Banks top line is flat,they are propping up profits through reduction in operational expenses and loan loss provisions

Top banks are highly profitable businesses no doubt about it.

@ericsson I expect better of you

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
S.Mutaga III
#127 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:12:37 PM
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Posts: 830
I ignore any company with a profit warning and if I already have a position I sell immediately, but that rarely happens. If your intention is to make money, why would you invest in a company issuing profit warnings or losses? Beats logic.
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
obiero
#128 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:51:23 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,501
Location: nairobi
S.Mutaga III wrote:
I ignore any company with a profit warning and if I already have a position I sell immediately, but that rarely happens. If your intention is to make money, why would you invest in a company issuing profit warnings or losses? Beats logic.

True. Profit warnings are red flags. However, on a loss making company, you can get in on a turnaround and make a killing, but it could also bankrupt you

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#129 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2019 12:52:26 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,678
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
I ignore any company with a profit warning and if I already have a position I sell immediately, but that rarely happens. If your intention is to make money, why would you invest in a company issuing profit warnings or losses? Beats logic.

True. Profit warnings are red flags. However, on a loss making company, you can get in on a turnaround and make a killing, but it could also bankrupt you

When is KQ announcing FY results
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
jmbada
#130 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2019 4:10:27 PM
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murchr wrote:
Only Safcom and banks are making money

...those bank profits look dodgy, but I have not analyzed any in appreciable detail.
Angelica _ann
#131 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2019 4:27:56 PM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,908
jmbada wrote:
murchr wrote:
Only Safcom and banks are making money

...those bank profits look dodgy, but I have not analyzed any in appreciable detail.


Safaricom is going to make abnormal profits in the long term 5 years, on. I looked at the niti griti t&c of fuliza, that thing is money minting and should be banned smile from the market.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
murchr
#132 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2019 4:53:08 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
jmbada wrote:
murchr wrote:
Only Safcom and banks are making money


...those bank profits look dodgy, but I have not analyzed any in appreciable detail.


The house always wins.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
obiero
#133 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2019 6:09:06 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,501
Location: nairobi
jmbada wrote:
murchr wrote:
Only Safcom and banks are making money

...those bank profits look dodgy, but I have not analyzed any in appreciable detail.

Tier 1 profits are consolidations over the collapsing lower lenders

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#134 Posted : Wednesday, March 20, 2019 10:12:30 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,501
Location: nairobi
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:


Link to kenya power profit warning announcement

It's being prepared as we speak. Expect it anytime before Monday


This was expected going by HY results;
https://www.businessdail...672-12m4sv2z/index.html

Link now available.. The only question remaining is why with government declaration that we are currently having the most connections countrywide.. Why is the company failing??? Your guess is as good as mine. Anyone who heard the president closing remark today knows where the problem lies, "huyu mtu anapinga umoja, akwende, apotee!"

4. HF Group https://af.reuters.com/a...kenyaNews/idAFL8N1Y50E2

5. Bamburi Cement https://www.businessdail...78864-kibyt9/index.html

6. Unga Group https://kenyanwallstreet...f-year-profit-drops-40/[/quote]

Welcome back @Obiero! Welcome, to Hotel California; where you can check out anytime but you can't leave!

That Sanlam loss outcome is much steeper than expected https://www.businessdail...9922-8f2tdxz/index.html

7. EAPCC https://kenyanwallstreet...-issues-profit-warning/

8. Carbacid
9. KENYA RE

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#135 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2019 8:02:47 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,501
Location: nairobi
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:


Link to kenya power profit warning announcement

It's being prepared as we speak. Expect it anytime before Monday


This was expected going by HY results;
https://www.businessdail...672-12m4sv2z/index.html

Link now available.. The only question remaining is why with government declaration that we are currently having the most connections countrywide.. Why is the company failing??? Your guess is as good as mine. Anyone who heard the president closing remark today knows where the problem lies, "huyu mtu anapinga umoja, akwende, apotee!"

4. HF Group https://af.reuters.com/a...kenyaNews/idAFL8N1Y50E2

5. Bamburi Cement https://www.businessdail...78864-kibyt9/index.html

6. Unga Group https://kenyanwallstreet...f-year-profit-drops-40/[/quote]

Welcome back @Obiero! Welcome, to Hotel California; where you can check out anytime but you can't leave!

That Sanlam loss outcome is much steeper than expected https://www.businessdail...9922-8f2tdxz/index.html

7. EAPCC https://kenyanwallstreet...-issues-profit-warning/

8. Carbacid
9. KENYA RE

10. NBK https://www.businessdail...42602-ds63pi/index.html

All of @vvs holdings make it to the list

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#136 Posted : Monday, April 01, 2019 8:40:59 PM
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Iko shida nduguzanguni. Thank me later https://www.businessdail...050954-5srq0q/index.html

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obiero
#137 Posted : Sunday, July 28, 2019 10:55:25 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,501
Location: nairobi
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:


Link to kenya power profit warning announcement

It's being prepared as we speak. Expect it anytime before Monday


This was expected going by HY results;
https://www.businessdail...672-12m4sv2z/index.html

Link now available.. The only question remaining is why with government declaration that we are currently having the most connections countrywide.. Why is the company failing??? Your guess is as good as mine. Anyone who heard the president closing remark today knows where the problem lies, "huyu mtu anapinga umoja, akwende, apotee!"

4. HF Group https://af.reuters.com/a...kenyaNews/idAFL8N1Y50E2

5. Bamburi Cement https://www.businessdail...78864-kibyt9/index.html

6. Unga Group https://kenyanwallstreet...f-year-profit-drops-40/[/quote]

Welcome back @Obiero! Welcome, to Hotel California; where you can check out anytime but you can't leave!

That Sanlam loss outcome is much steeper than expected https://www.businessdail...9922-8f2tdxz/index.html

7. EAPCC https://kenyanwallstreet...-issues-profit-warning/

8. Carbacid
9. KENYA RE

10. NBK https://www.businessdail...42602-ds63pi/index.html

All of @vvs holdings make it to the list

11. HAL https://www.homeafrika.c...Warning-Announcement.pdf

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
chiaroscuro
#138 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2019 8:56:17 AM
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Joined: 2/2/2012
Posts: 1,134
Location: Nairobi
Hiyo ya Home Africa ni mchezo. Ati "We wish to warn you that we expect to make a loss last years"!
Metch
#139 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2019 9:16:06 AM
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Joined: 12/22/2015
Posts: 224
Location: Mombasa, Kenya
chiaroscuro wrote:
Hiyo ya Home Africa ni mchezo. Ati "We wish to warn you that we expect to make a loss last years"!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Start!
Angelica _ann
#140 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2019 10:35:07 AM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,908
Metch wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
Hiyo ya Home Africa ni mchezo. Ati "We wish to warn you that we expect to make a loss last years"!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


In the first place, the 'letter' is not dated? Hii Kenya yetu, Corporate Governance at NSE is deteriorating fast.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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