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Williamson Tea & Kapchorua
Pesa Nane
#21 Posted : Friday, March 29, 2019 11:48:40 AM
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Mastermind wrote:

They have also issued theirs as expected.


Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
tandich
#22 Posted : Sunday, March 31, 2019 4:57:42 PM
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VituVingiSana
#23 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 4:07:24 PM
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FY 2018-19 profits are going to be awful.
FY 2019-20 1H looks bad.

Low tea prices. Drought conditions last year. Excess - flooding/heavy vs good, steady, even rains - rains in some parts. Politics.

Though, given the cyclical nature of this industry, I am staying out for now.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
FUNKY
#24 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 4:28:33 PM
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Williamson tea might pull a surprise by declaring juicy dividend given their huge cash at bank
VituVingiSana
#25 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 6:02:40 PM
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FUNKY wrote:
Williamson tea might pull a surprise by declaring juicy dividend given their huge cash at bank
The most one can reasonably expect is the same as FY 2018. Both WTK and KTC have cash in the bank.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Superprime1
#26 Posted : Monday, June 17, 2019 11:09:18 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
Williamson tea might pull a surprise by declaring juicy dividend given their huge cash at bank
The most one can reasonably expect is the same as FY 2018. Both WTK and KTC have cash in the bank.

Even that is being a bit too optimistic; a 50% cut in dividend might perhaps suffice. Realistic in this scenario. Yet, this would still be a good yield. My thoughts.
VituVingiSana
#27 Posted : Friday, June 21, 2019 11:28:39 AM
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The profits for 2018-19 might be the lowest seen in years!
And 2019-20 is looking very weak for tea. Low, low prices at auction.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#28 Posted : Friday, June 28, 2019 4:24:50 PM
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Superprime1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
Williamson tea might pull a surprise by declaring juicy dividend given their huge cash at bank
The most one can reasonably expect is the same as FY 2018. Both WTK and KTC have cash in the bank.

Even that is being a bit too optimistic; a 50% cut in dividend might perhaps suffice. Realistic in this scenario. Yet, this would still be a good yield. My thoughts.

WTK FY 2019 Div 20/-
KTC FY 2019 Div 10/- Drool Applause Drool Applause
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Superprime1
#29 Posted : Friday, June 28, 2019 6:40:26 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
Williamson tea might pull a surprise by declaring juicy dividend given their huge cash at bank
The most one can reasonably expect is the same as FY 2018. Both WTK and KTC have cash in the bank.

Even that is being a bit too optimistic; a 50% cut in dividend might perhaps suffice. Realistic in this scenario. Yet, this would still be a good yield. My thoughts.

WTK FY 2019 Div 20/-
KTC FY 2019 Div 10/- Drool Applause Drool Applause

Absolutely awesome, sweet dividend! By all means I didn't anticipate considering the performance outlook, but as they said, "persistent demand for higher dividend during times of good performance" made them decide to maintain last year's payout from retained earnings.

Good stuff from these ever-pessimistic people!Applause Applause Applause
sparkly
#30 Posted : Saturday, June 29, 2019 8:49:31 AM
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Superprime1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
Williamson tea might pull a surprise by declaring juicy dividend given their huge cash at bank
The most one can reasonably expect is the same as FY 2018. Both WTK and KTC have cash in the bank.

Even that is being a bit too optimistic; a 50% cut in dividend might perhaps suffice. Realistic in this scenario. Yet, this would still be a good yield. My thoughts.

WTK FY 2019 Div 20/-
KTC FY 2019 Div 10/- Drool Applause Drool Applause

Absolutely awesome, sweet dividend! By all means I didn't anticipate considering the performance outlook, but as they said, "persistent demand for higher dividend during times of good performance" made them decide to maintain last year's payout from retained earnings.

Good stuff from these ever-pessimistic people!Applause Applause Applause


Absolutely fantastic.
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VituVingiSana
#31 Posted : Saturday, June 29, 2019 10:25:02 AM
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Superprime1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
Williamson tea might pull a surprise by declaring juicy dividend given their huge cash at bank
The most one can reasonably expect is the same as FY 2018. Both WTK and KTC have cash in the bank.

Even that is being a bit too optimistic; a 50% cut in dividend might perhaps suffice. Realistic in this scenario. Yet, this would still be a good yield. My thoughts.

WTK FY 2019 Div 20/-
KTC FY 2019 Div 10/- Drool Applause Drool Applause

Absolutely awesome, sweet dividend! By all means I didn't anticipate considering the performance outlook, but as they said, "persistent demand for higher dividend during times of good performance" made them decide to maintain last year's payout from retained earnings.

Good stuff from these ever-pessimistic people!Applause Applause Applause

Laughing out loudly They are always crying and making shareholders cry with joy too! Laughing out loudly
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
FUNKY
#32 Posted : Wednesday, July 10, 2019 10:16:57 PM
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#33 Posted : Wednesday, July 10, 2019 11:37:44 PM
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Fyatu
#34 Posted : Thursday, July 11, 2019 7:59:26 AM
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when is Kapchorua paying dividends?
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Pesa Nane
#35 Posted : Thursday, July 11, 2019 10:40:22 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
when is Kapchorua paying dividends?


Bado! Book closure is 31 July 2019
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Fyatu
#36 Posted : Thursday, July 11, 2019 11:02:12 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
when is Kapchorua paying dividends?


Bado! Book closure is 31 July 2019


Shukran
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Superprime1
#37 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2019 3:15:07 PM
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Kapchorua now trading at a premium over the sibling (or is it parent?) WTK.

Those chasing dividend would be better of buying WTK, a sligtly higher yield. But then again, this is the market.
VituVingiSana
#38 Posted : Thursday, February 20, 2020 1:02:00 AM
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Six-month tea export earnings fall by Sh100m

https://www.businessdail...1822-1cs4djz/index.html

It's going to be very, very ugly for WTK and KTC
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tandich
#39 Posted : Thursday, February 20, 2020 10:49:03 AM
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I quote Kakuzi Plc Chairman’s Statement for the period of six months to 30 June 2019

Quote:
Tea operations remain under pressure given the record volumes in the Kenyan market, coupled with political and currency volatility in some of our export markets. The outlook for tea this year is a concern.


Quote:
Whilst the Company is less exposed to tea the extreme decline in tea prices is of great concern. Average Mombasa tea prices have in recent months reduced to levels not seen for ten years.
Superprime1
#40 Posted : Thursday, February 20, 2020 5:44:36 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Six-month tea export earnings fall by Sh100m

https://www.businessdail...1822-1cs4djz/index.html

It's going to be very, very ugly for WTK and KTC


Indeed, it'll be very ugly, and messy, this time! What to do, na tuko ndani? d'oh!
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