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US - China tariffs war
Pedes
#141 Posted : Tuesday, June 04, 2019 1:05:34 AM
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limanika wrote:
When this ban (by US) on huawei takes effect in say 90 days, then anyone using whatever phone running safaricom network which runs on huawei architecture won't access any apps supported by Android. Then it'll be back to stoneage, Kweli ama Rongo?

Rongo. The ban was for US companies and businesses doing business that whose undwrlying innovations are from US (ARM). In Kenya, if this is not sorted Huwaei phones and maybe Honor will cease using Google playstore ecosystem. They'll only assess through browser.
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Pedes
#142 Posted : Tuesday, June 04, 2019 1:17:27 AM
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Kusadikika wrote:
tycho wrote:
limanika wrote:
When this ban (by US) on huawei takes effect in say 90 days, then anyone using whatever phone running safaricom network which runs on huawei architecture won't access any apps supported by Android. Then it'll be back to stoneage, Kweli ama Rongo?


It may not get this far. I suspect a reversal and normalization is on the way given that there seems to be no clear strategy by the Trump administration that can withhold the consequence of the conflict.


You are right. The pressure on Trump will not come from China or Huawei but from US suppliers. I am sure lobbyists for Intel, Qualcomm, IBM, Google, Microsoft etc must be making phone calls, writing emails and doing frantic meetings with everyone in any position in Washington.

All those companies mentioned are okay with the ban. They are restricted on their operations within China. As US bans Huawei in US. The rest of the world was the battlefront and Huawei is miles ahead of competition by subsidizing and offering superior products particularly in 5G.
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limanika
#143 Posted : Tuesday, June 04, 2019 6:48:59 PM
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Pedes wrote:
limanika wrote:
When this ban (by US) on huawei takes effect in say 90 days, then anyone using whatever phone running safaricom network which runs on huawei architecture won't access any apps supported by Android. Then it'll be back to stoneage, Kweli ama Rongo?

Rongo. The ban was for US companies and businesses doing business that whose undwrlying innovations are from US (ARM). In Kenya, if this is not sorted Huwaei phones and maybe Honor will cease using Google playstore ecosystem. They'll only assess through browser.

Trumps target is not huawei phones, these have been around for longest and a non issue. He's after huawei's 'brains' or software behind 5G. He's trying to prevent China creating and controlling the next 'industrial revolution' through early advance in technology such as IoT, Virtual reality, etc powered by 5G. Even Trump isn't exactly sure what to do. He will keep flip flopping if he realizes some actions may backfire or boomerang on the US badly. It'll be more of 'the end justifies the means' case
limanika
#144 Posted : Saturday, June 29, 2019 1:54:36 PM
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Trump blinks. Did he just realize ''American companies want to sell to Huawei?''
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#145 Posted : Saturday, June 29, 2019 4:29:05 PM
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limanika wrote:
Trump blinks. Did he just realize ''American companies want to sell to Huawei?''


Some American tech can't survive without selling to Chinese companies. Chinese companies control almost 70% of the global mobile phone market (Huawei, Oppo, Techno plus tens of other sub brands like itel, infinix etc.) and telecommunications technology. The challenge and fear for US tech is when a company like Huawei decides to develop the chips and other elements and supply the rest so they don't get from US.

BBI will solve it
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limanika
#146 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2019 12:56:51 PM
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China turning Trade war now into 'currency war' . Trump has never been this scared
kingfisher
#147 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2019 5:31:46 PM
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limanika wrote:
China turning Trade war now into 'currency war' . Trump has never been this scared


Suddenly US products very expensive for Chinese!! That's how they climbed to number 2, Japanese were always crying foul.
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murchr
#148 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2019 6:22:19 PM
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limanika wrote:
China turning Trade war now into 'currency war' . Trump has never been this scared


Traders made good mulla on gold yesterday
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Kusadikika
#149 Posted : Tuesday, August 06, 2019 7:06:39 PM
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Chinese not buying US farm produce.

https://www.reuters.com/...purchases-idUSKCN1UV0XJ


I don't see how Trump will survive this. Akienda Iowa atapigwa na mawe.


https://www.reuters.com/...arm-sector-idUSKCN1U618F
kingfisher
#150 Posted : Wednesday, August 07, 2019 8:19:37 AM
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Kusadikika wrote:
Chinese not buying US farm produce.

https://www.reuters.com/...purchases-idUSKCN1UV0XJ


I don't see how Trump will survive this. Akienda Iowa atapigwa na mawe.


https://www.reuters.com/...rm-sector-idUSKCN1U618F[/quote]

[quote from report]China bought 130,000 tonnes of soybeans, 120,000 tonnes of sorghum, 60,000 tonnes of wheat, 40,000 tonnes of pork and products, and 25,000 tonnes of cotton from the United States between July 19 and Aug. 2, Cong said according to the report.


This is what Africa should be selling to china, golden opportunities but will be missed out... but what are our priorities like? All sorghum producing areas like Nyanza should be put into sorghum PAP and bilateral agreements undertaken
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