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tycho
#131 Posted : Sunday, June 02, 2019 6:48:14 PM
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T-Bag
#132 Posted : Monday, June 03, 2019 3:12:02 PM
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I never trust the XI to play fair, China will expand retaliation outside tariffs towards US companies based in china and US treasuries, notes and bond held by China........

Buy Gold and enjoy the ride


Load up some more Gold, I insist
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limanika
#133 Posted : Monday, June 03, 2019 4:26:17 PM
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When this ban (by US) on huawei takes effect in say 90 days, then anyone using whatever phone running safaricom network which runs on huawei architecture won't access any apps supported by Android. Then it'll be back to stoneage, Kweli ama Rongo?
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kingfisher
#134 Posted : Monday, June 03, 2019 4:58:05 PM
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limanika wrote:
When this ban (by US) on huawei takes effect in say 90 days, then anyone using whatever phone running safaricom network which runs on huawei architecture won't access any apps supported by Android. Then it'll be back to stoneage, Kweli ama Rongo?


Huawei have their own app store so if you are a developer of mobile apps logic will dictate you do do and maintain apps for all major stores (google, apple, huawei, etc etc).
When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
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radio
#135 Posted : Monday, June 03, 2019 5:07:37 PM
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limanika wrote:
When this ban (by US) on huawei takes effect in say 90 days, then anyone using whatever phone running safaricom network which runs on huawei architecture won't access any apps supported by Android. Then it'll be back to stoneage, Kweli ama Rongo?


I doubt.

For Huawei users' questions regarding our steps to comply w/ the recent US government actions: We assure you while we are complying with all US gov't requirements, services like Google Play & security from Google Play Protect will keep functioning on your existing Huawei device.
~Android
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tycho
#136 Posted : Monday, June 03, 2019 5:17:07 PM
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limanika wrote:
When this ban (by US) on huawei takes effect in say 90 days, then anyone using whatever phone running safaricom network which runs on huawei architecture won't access any apps supported by Android. Then it'll be back to stoneage, Kweli ama Rongo?


It may not get this far. I suspect a reversal and normalization is on the way given that there seems to be no clear strategy by the Trump administration that can withhold the consequence of the conflict.
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kingfisher
#137 Posted : Monday, June 03, 2019 5:21:29 PM
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tycho wrote:
limanika wrote:
When this ban (by US) on huawei takes effect in say 90 days, then anyone using whatever phone running safaricom network which runs on huawei architecture won't access any apps supported by Android. Then it'll be back to stoneage, Kweli ama Rongo?


It may not get this far. I suspect a reversal and normalization is on the way given that there seems to be no clear strategy by the Trump administration that can withhold the consequence of the conflict.


He is also very afraid of those same consequences... and the west is not playing ball well but Japan and Taiwan only
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Kusadikika
#138 Posted : Monday, June 03, 2019 6:01:40 PM
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tycho wrote:
limanika wrote:
When this ban (by US) on huawei takes effect in say 90 days, then anyone using whatever phone running safaricom network which runs on huawei architecture won't access any apps supported by Android. Then it'll be back to stoneage, Kweli ama Rongo?


It may not get this far. I suspect a reversal and normalization is on the way given that there seems to be no clear strategy by the Trump administration that can withhold the consequence of the conflict.


You are right. The pressure on Trump will not come from China or Huawei but from US suppliers. I am sure lobbyists for Intel, Qualcomm, IBM, Google, Microsoft etc must be making phone calls, writing emails and doing frantic meetings with everyone in any position in Washington.
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limanika
#139 Posted : Monday, June 03, 2019 6:52:20 PM
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radio wrote:
limanika wrote:
When this ban (by US) on huawei takes effect in say 90 days, then anyone using whatever phone running safaricom network which runs on huawei architecture won't access any apps supported by Android. Then it'll be back to stoneage, Kweli ama Rongo?


I doubt.

For Huawei users' questions regarding our steps to comply w/ the recent US government actions: We assure you while we are complying with all US gov't requirements, services like Google Play & security from Google Play Protect will keep functioning on your existing Huawei device.
~Android

You can have huawei phone running on Nokia supported infrastructure hence that will not be affected. But you can have Nokia phone running on huawei infrastructure, this will be affected. Of course service providers like Android will issue statements assuring their customers to avoid panic but you can be sure they're cracking heads behind their desks. I think the issue is more complex and even Trump himself doesn't understand how complex and globalized the world has become
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Wakanyugi
#140 Posted : Monday, June 03, 2019 8:32:08 PM
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tycho wrote:
limanika wrote:
When this ban (by US) on huawei takes effect in say 90 days, then anyone using whatever phone running safaricom network which runs on huawei architecture won't access any apps supported by Android. Then it'll be back to stoneage, Kweli ama Rongo?


It may not get this far. I suspect a reversal and normalization is on the way given that there seems to be no clear strategy by the Trump administration that can withhold the consequence of the conflict.


There is a Trumpian strategy, of a kind:

1. Bad cop - Threaten all kinds of mayhem unless....

2. Good cop - Give me a call (Iran/North Korea) I am willing to talk

3. Bad cop- pretend to lose your temper 'the fake walk away'

4. If this doesn't work squeeze a third party. 'See what I am doing to Mexico? Imagine what I can do to you'

5. Make nice. Fudge.

6. Declare victory

P.S. This is similar behaviour to what Jane Goodall has recorded about Gorillas in the Congo.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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