By the way Boeing is buying Embraer, but the rest of the world slept while US and UK did the important stuff, for example without windows Huawei laptop business is kaput, add to this ARM license and Huawei can't manufacture any processors in the near future, and they need those for their 5G towers, the rest of the world might control the body but US, UK control the 'life' software, until such a time Samsung, Taiwan china, or africa come up and patent their processor architectures, their own operating systems, U S&K will always be able to switch us off. After the ban I am sure other tech Giants will and are working on this, in the long term Americans will realize trump f***ed them up.

To cut taxes in the form of tariffs, Boeing is opening a plant in China.

UK has refused to play ball. Now Trump is threatening UK.

Friday, EE Ltd launched 5G using Huawei wireless antennas, they may not have included the Huawei phones in it but they are surely in business.

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Read somewhere that Huawei has been developing own OS called HongMeng since 2012 and that they are ready to roll it out this June? I think Huawei has had a plan bah all along..

The whole eco system exists in its current form not because it is hard to develop but because there are intellectual property rights granted to the first entrants that prevent other entrants getting in. Intellectual property rights are basically legal protections which is not to say other people do not know how to replicate something but that they are prevented by law from doing so.

Picking a trade war with China is a big mistake. Whatever gains there are will be very short lived. China has more than 4 times the population of the US. Most of the population are recently well off which means they have some experience living on less than what they have now. A rich country ike the US means there are millions of people who are used to a certain standard of living and have never known life below that standard. A little change in the standard of living in the US will produce a huge cry from the citizens. The US can fire their president every 4 years and their congressmen every 2 years so the Chinese can wait them out and the policy will change. In China change is not that swift. The leaders can change the country quicker than the country can change the leaders.

One of the comments I have seen repeated many times over is that, China is playing the long game. It is not hard to see. Over the last 10 years or so China has sucesfully duplicated Facebook, Google, Amazon and Paypal to great effect and prifit too.

Would you want to bet that they will not duplicate high end microchips, OS, AI, Quantum computing or even semiconductors?

When you can control a market of 1.4 billion you don't need favours from a declining super power for very long.

Load up some more Gold, I insist

Huawei have their own app store so if you are a developer of mobile apps logic will dictate you do do and maintain apps for all major stores (google, apple, huawei, etc etc).

It may not get this far. I suspect a reversal and normalization is on the way given that there seems to be no clear strategy by the Trump administration that can withhold the consequence of the conflict.

You are right. The pressure on Trump will not come from China or Huawei but from US suppliers. I am sure lobbyists for Intel, Qualcomm, IBM, Google, Microsoft etc must be making phone calls, writing emails and doing frantic meetings with everyone in any position in Washington.

There is a Trumpian strategy, of a kind:

1. Bad cop - Threaten all kinds of mayhem unless....

2. Good cop - Give me a call (Iran/North Korea) I am willing to talk

3. Bad cop- pretend to lose your temper 'the fake walk away'

4. If this doesn't work squeeze a third party. 'See what I am doing to Mexico? Imagine what I can do to you'

5. Make nice. Fudge.

6. Declare victory

P.S. This is similar behaviour to what Jane Goodall has recorded about Gorillas in the Congo.