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Elliott Wave Analysis Of The NSE 20
Ericsson
#3101 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2019 6:57:23 AM
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Which insurance companies are strong enough to make acquisitions
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FUNKY
#3102 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2019 7:23:22 AM
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Queen
#3103 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2019 8:49:10 AM
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FUNKY wrote:
https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Kenya-sells-third-Sh210bn-Eurobond/996-5117296-i606ebz/index.html

We are doomed!


Taking a loan to repay another loan...
lochaz-index
#3104 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2019 10:11:35 AM
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mnandii wrote:
xtina wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
wukan wrote:
@mnandii, great stuff. I see the target of 2252 holding. Sub 2K will generate too much political heat

Sub 2000 is coming but perhaps next year. This is not a smash and grab type of bear...kills you softly while offering a false sense of hope. It will be an interesting run of things from all spheres here on out.


next year? you mean the time to buy is still not here but next year?


Might be longer. Most guys trying to buy stocks are hopping for a miracle but I don't see one any time soon.

Bingo! That's the problem this time round. Buying is the easy part, waiting is the tough bit. Early readings suggest a U-recovery more than anything else and patience will wear thin before a bull of any sort can be achieved save for the occasional bounces and relief rallies. It is still an uneasy calm at the moment without any form of capitulation.
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lochaz-index
#3105 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2019 10:15:04 AM
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xtina wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
wukan wrote:
@mnandii, great stuff. I see the target of 2252 holding. Sub 2K will generate too much political heat

Sub 2000 is coming but perhaps next year. This is not a smash and grab type of bear...kills you softly while offering a false sense of hope. It will be an interesting run of things from all spheres here on out.


next year? you mean the time to buy is still not here but next year?

Potentially longer than that but I suspect the NSE20 will breach sub 2000 at the very least next year even if temporarily. If you can buy and forget, good for you...the ones who watch the market constantly will be a tortured lot.

Other than domestic fundamentals, KE's fate is hugely dependent on happenings in the international markets mainly interest rate and USD trends.
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lochaz-index
#3106 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2019 10:26:10 AM
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wukan wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
wukan wrote:
@mnandii, great stuff. I see the target of 2252 holding. Sub 2K will generate too much political heat

Sub 2000 is coming but perhaps next year. This is not a smash and grab type of bear...kills you softly while offering a false sense of hope. It will be an interesting run of things from all spheres here on out.


This soft killing bear is going to hurt a lot of folks. Insurance companies which don't invest a lot on TA will have a rough year ahead.

Quote:
Significant underwriting losses for many players were witnessed last year, leaving a number of insurers with ratios below the legal minimum requirements set by the Insurance Regulatory Authority (IRA).

“I think this is the worst year ever in Kenya’s history. We need to ask for how long. Another one similar year and half of these companies will go bust. Maybe consolidation is an answer,” Jubilee Holdings chairman Nizar Juma told the Business Daily.


That will be a good sign on the capitulation front. Skeletons abound in the banking sector too.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
lochaz-index
#3107 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2019 10:33:09 AM
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mnandii wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mnandii wrote:
I did warn about bank and insurance companies collapsing when the bear in the NSE 20 Share Index took a strong hold. Then I was being told how Kenyan banks have strong capital ratios, ati sijui we have a smart CBK governor? Now I hear there is a bank and an insurance company that are facing difficult times Sad ?

I doubt you were told all banks were the same. Even back then, NBK had poor fundamentals. Overall the KE banking sector looks OK. There will always be a few stragglers.
Spire, NBK, etc were weak back in 2016 and remain so today.

Even among insurance firms, you have the likes of Jubilee, which may face challenges in some years, and some shady/weak ones that remain on the edge forever.


As long as the banks practice their well established business model i.e fractional reserve banking, they are vulnerable. When a bank run happens then it will not matter the fundamentals of any bank, they all go down.

That would be a sight to behold. That's one of the strongest no confidence vote in the system.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
Angelica _ann
#3108 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2019 10:36:39 AM
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lochaz-index wrote:
wukan wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
wukan wrote:
@mnandii, great stuff. I see the target of 2252 holding. Sub 2K will generate too much political heat

Sub 2000 is coming but perhaps next year. This is not a smash and grab type of bear...kills you softly while offering a false sense of hope. It will be an interesting run of things from all spheres here on out.


This soft killing bear is going to hurt a lot of folks. Insurance companies which don't invest a lot on TA will have a rough year ahead.

Quote:
Significant underwriting losses for many players were witnessed last year, leaving a number of insurers with ratios below the legal minimum requirements set by the Insurance Regulatory Authority (IRA).

“I think this is the worst year ever in Kenya’s history. We need to ask for how long. Another one similar year and half of these companies will go bust. Maybe consolidation is an answer,” Jubilee Holdings chairman Nizar Juma told the Business Daily.


That will be a good sign on the capitulation front. Skeletons abound in the banking sector too.


Shows clearly how our economy is doing since this is a sector that deals with all other sectors. But it is orite!!!
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obiero
#3109 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2019 10:48:10 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
wukan wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
wukan wrote:
@mnandii, great stuff. I see the target of 2252 holding. Sub 2K will generate too much political heat

Sub 2000 is coming but perhaps next year. This is not a smash and grab type of bear...kills you softly while offering a false sense of hope. It will be an interesting run of things from all spheres here on out.


This soft killing bear is going to hurt a lot of folks. Insurance companies which don't invest a lot on TA will have a rough year ahead.

Quote:
Significant underwriting losses for many players were witnessed last year, leaving a number of insurers with ratios below the legal minimum requirements set by the Insurance Regulatory Authority (IRA).

“I think this is the worst year ever in Kenya’s history. We need to ask for how long. Another one similar year and half of these companies will go bust. Maybe consolidation is an answer,” Jubilee Holdings chairman Nizar Juma told the Business Daily.


That will be a good sign on the capitulation front. Skeletons abound in the banking sector too.


Shows clearly how our economy is doing since this is a sector that deals with all other sectors. But it is orite!!!

The easiest way to unlock the economy is to reverse the rate cap immediately by presidential decree and form a joint committee between CBK, KBA and National Assembly to look at the cause of its failure and improvement required..

mnandii
#3110 Posted : Thursday, May 16, 2019 5:51:34 PM
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obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
wukan wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
wukan wrote:
@mnandii, great stuff. I see the target of 2252 holding. Sub 2K will generate too much political heat

Sub 2000 is coming but perhaps next year. This is not a smash and grab type of bear...kills you softly while offering a false sense of hope. It will be an interesting run of things from all spheres here on out.


This soft killing bear is going to hurt a lot of folks. Insurance companies which don't invest a lot on TA will have a rough year ahead.

Quote:
Significant underwriting losses for many players were witnessed last year, leaving a number of insurers with ratios below the legal minimum requirements set by the Insurance Regulatory Authority (IRA).

“I think this is the worst year ever in Kenya’s history. We need to ask for how long. Another one similar year and half of these companies will go bust. Maybe consolidation is an answer,” Jubilee Holdings chairman Nizar Juma told the Business Daily.


That will be a good sign on the capitulation front. Skeletons abound in the banking sector too.


Shows clearly how our economy is doing since this is a sector that deals with all other sectors. But it is orite!!!

The easiest way to unlock the economy is to reverse the rate cap immediately by presidential decree and form a joint committee between CBK, KBA and National Assembly to look at the cause of its failure and improvement required..


The rate cap was reversed by the courts? No? But it will take about 10 months to be fully implemented.
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