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tycho		#11 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 2:51:50 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		What is a revolution? For me, it is about the point of a circle distinguishing itself through motion till it is at the opposite side of itself and going back to its original self. A revolution is a self development cycle and it is always conservative. I fear that we've used wrong labels in history for there has never been a revolution in history as yet. Only a progression of history with insurrections among parties with a hope for the one revolution to come. Maybe it has come now.
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tycho		#12 Posted : Saturday, May 11, 2019 8:18:30 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		A few days ago I was researching on British politics and I came to the conclusion that the British government as we know it today is likely to collapse. I thought I was hallucinating but today I see that even Boris Johnson sees the possibility... Britain is at significant disadvantage today, it has no strong move ahead. How does such an eventuality affect Kenya?
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2012		#13 Posted : Saturday, May 11, 2019 1:09:52 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi		A revolution doesn't mean violence. It happens when the citizens awaken to the realization that the power belongs to them and not the and not the other way round and they take it back. I think Kenya will reach there when the coming referendum fails. I do not like Ruto but on the referendum, he is right and he will sadly come through as the hero. The Impunity in this country is beyond recovery and it looks like president Kenyatta has become ceremonial and toothless. I gave up on him the day he asked us, the people who evected him, "munataka nifanye?“ That question just made him the worst president Kenya has ever had. Can you imagine the CEO of a company eg James Mwangi or Bob Callingmore asking his shareholders that?!! He would be fired on the spot. BBI will solve it :)
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mpobiz		#14 Posted : Saturday, May 11, 2019 2:26:17 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,265		2012 wrote: A revolution doesn't mean violence. It happens when the citizens awaken to the realization that the power belongs to them and not the and not the other way round and they take it back. I think Kenya will reach there when the coming referendum fails. I do not like Ruto but on the referendum, he is right and he will sadly come through as the hero. The Impunity in this country is beyond recovery and it looks like president Kenyatta has become ceremonial and toothless. I gave up on him the day he asked us, the people who evected him, "munataka nifanye?“ That question just made him the worst president Kenya has ever had. Can you imagine the CEO of a company eg James Mwangi or Bob Callingmore asking his shareholders that?!! He would be fired on the spot. The problem here is that you still want a dictatorship even with the current constitution. What the guy was talking about at that time was that he was trying hard to strengthen independent offices which looked useless because either the appointees slept on the job or they themselves started eating. If not so. How do you explain the fact that when some office holders retired or resigned we saw a lot of changes in the movement of cases? *Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...*
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2012		#15 Posted : Saturday, May 11, 2019 3:24:17 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi		mpobiz wrote: 2012 wrote: A revolution doesn't mean violence. It happens when the citizens awaken to the realization that the power belongs to them and not the and not the other way round and they take it back. I think Kenya will reach there when the coming referendum fails. I do not like Ruto but on the referendum, he is right and he will sadly come through as the hero. The Impunity in this country is beyond recovery and it looks like president Kenyatta has become ceremonial and toothless. I gave up on him the day he asked us, the people who evected him, "munataka nifanye?“ That question just made him the worst president Kenya has ever had. Can you imagine the CEO of a company eg James Mwangi or Bob Callingmore asking his shareholders that?!! He would be fired on the spot. The problem here is that you still want a dictatorship even with the current constitution. What the guy was talking about at that time was that he was trying hard to strengthen independent offices which looked useless because either the appointees slept on the job or they themselves started eating. If not so. How do you explain the fact that when some office holders retired or resigned we saw a lot of changes in the movement of cases? Those offices are not weak. They've just been made inefficient by corruption. The only way to strengthen the independent offices is by eradicating corruption. The holders of these offices know they are there for a term or two so they decide to fill their stomachs before the term ends. Only the president can stop corruption, he has the blessing of over 40 million Kenyans to go after the 10,000 corrupt. BBI will solve it :)
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tycho		#16 Posted : Sunday, May 12, 2019 8:04:15 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		2012 wrote: A revolution doesn't mean violence. It happens when the citizens awaken to the realization that the power belongs to them and not the and not the other way round and they take it back. I think Kenya will reach there when the coming referendum fails. I do not like Ruto but on the referendum, he is right and he will sadly come through as the hero. The Impunity in this country is beyond recovery and it looks like president Kenyatta has become ceremonial and toothless. I gave up on him the day he asked us, the people who evected him, "munataka nifanye?“ That question just made him the worst president Kenya has ever had. Can you imagine the CEO of a company eg James Mwangi or Bob Callingmore asking his shareholders that?!! He would be fired on the spot. The idea that power belongs to the people is false. Historically this is a new concept and it came as a result of collapsing political ideology. Power belongs to the mandate of heaven and states and bodies politic need only to ascribe to it. Revolution is regaining consciousness to this mandate.
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FRM2011		#17 Posted : Sunday, May 12, 2019 9:27:25 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459		Swenani wrote: 2012 wrote: It looks like all indicators are leading there... What are the indicators. Don't let SM mislead you Revolution in Kenya cannot happen without the support of the educated mass(Unemployed graduates and underpaid employees). Currently, this group of the population is busy with Njunge betting while the noise makers on chocho midia are the middle class who are trying to live a life they cannot afford hence venting on chocho midia and talking about revolution. I can bet my balls that no under employed person will risk going for a demo/ sit down at the expense of missing going to work. Nobody organized the revolution in Tunisia. It was spontaneous. The tipping point is when the public discovers they hold the real power. The situation in Tunisia had been ripe waiting for a trigger. All it took was a street trader being harassed by police and he set himself on fire. Two weeks ago, police tried to arrest a bodaboda guy in the CBD. He fought for his bike forcing the cops to shoot in the air but the guy still snatched his bike from them and took off. The public was of course cheering for the guy. Today, I doubt any jubilee politician can dare show his face in downtown Nairobi. The anger is almost at boiling point.
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tycho		#18 Posted : Sunday, May 12, 2019 10:48:22 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		FRM2011 wrote: Swenani wrote: 2012 wrote: It looks like all indicators are leading there... What are the indicators. Don't let SM mislead you Revolution in Kenya cannot happen without the support of the educated mass(Unemployed graduates and underpaid employees). Currently, this group of the population is busy with Njunge betting while the noise makers on chocho midia are the middle class who are trying to live a life they cannot afford hence venting on chocho midia and talking about revolution. I can bet my balls that no under employed person will risk going for a demo/ sit down at the expense of missing going to work. Nobody organized the revolution in Tunisia. It was spontaneous. The tipping point is when the public discovers they hold the real power. The situation in Tunisia had been ripe waiting for a trigger. All it took was a street trader being harassed by police and he set himself on fire. Two weeks ago, police tried to arrest a bodaboda guy in the CBD. He fought for his bike forcing the cops to shoot in the air but the guy still snatched his bike from them and took off. The public was of course cheering for the guy. Today, I doubt any jubilee politician can dare show his face in downtown Nairobi. The anger is almost at boiling point. There was no revolution in Tunisia. There has never been a revolution in modern to contemporary history. What happened in Tunisia was an arranged operation by some military organizations working with the masses.
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tycho		#19 Posted : Friday, May 17, 2019 10:10:14 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		How is it that the people's President could only accept a handshake and seek the blessings of the elite for his personal ambition? Surely, could there be something that is amiss in our political thought? I guess this writer has a hint: https://www.theguardian....revolution-crowd-caracas
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2012		#20 Posted : Friday, May 17, 2019 7:38:17 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi		[quote=tycho]How is it that the people's President could only accept a handshake and seek the blessings of the elite for his personal ambition? Surely, could there be something that is amiss in our political thought? I guess this writer has a hint: https://www.theguardian....evolution-crowd-caracas[/quote] The people's president was heavy in debt and to the wrong people after the last elections. He needed someone with very deep pockets to bail him out and for that he pledged his allegiance or in GOT terms, 'he bend the knee'. That man was Uhuru the son of Jomo. BBI will solve it :)
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