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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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It looks like all indicators are leading there...
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,505 Location: Uganda
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revolution may not happen soon with our tribal Kenya. no one can touch the tin god.seems their is pride in our man being at the helm even if we sleep hungry.may be after the current generation is fully gone .kitu 2098. punda amecheka
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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2012 wrote:It looks like all indicators are leading there... What are the indicators. Don't let SM mislead you Revolution in Kenya cannot happen without the support of the educated mass(Unemployed graduates and underpaid employees). Currently, this group of the population is busy with Njunge betting while the noise makers on chocho midia are the middle class who are trying to live a life they cannot afford hence venting on chocho midia and talking about revolution. I can bet my balls that no under employed person will risk going for a demo/ sit down at the expense of missing going to work. If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,937
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Kenya has resources which at least maintain us to a bare minimum. As @Swenani says, the guys who should be on the streets will never show up. Devolution has even made it worse since the eating is spread all over. You will wait until you go for that revolution, it will never happen. The other tribal aspect is, people always percieve Luos (& abit of Luhyas) as the guys of chaos who want to destroy hard working results from Kikuyu (wider GEMA), Kisii, (Kaleos????  ) & others. Once this type of thinking is in place you will never have a revolution. Then there are those cowards who will never ever do a thing, they know themselves. North Eastern / Walalos have their own problems to concentrate on. Kenya/Kenyans will never united to achieve anything meaningful in the near future. I know you will say 2002, that to me just happened by luck (& i still think Kibaki's accident was a major contributing factor of the unity up-to the polls, otherwise ....). In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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In the medium to longterm one of the biggest threats to national fabric is the instability that can arise from (God forbid) default on debt payments.
If you consider the anger Kenyans have shown due to corruption, misplaced priorities and rising debt, you dont want to imagine how they would react if what they fear most happens.
But govt still has a window to correct and steer ship in the right direction. Its up to them to make up their mind whether to continue burying their heads in the sand or confront the problem headon with nothing less than text book precision
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Firstly, I believe that Hegel was right in his philosophy of history and that there's a 'Geist' or 'spirit' that guides history. This Geist works in the book of Daniel to cause a world order of nobility. Hesiod's philosophy too leads to the same conclusion.
But it would be naive to think of revolution in terms of presidency per se. Economic and political thought are changing pretty rapidly at the moment. Currently, ideas regarding climate change and biodiversity are forcing a rethink of our relations and is providing a huge incentive for a revolution even on a global scale.
Politically, the changing global order is occasioning a great possibility for war and conflict as nations struggle to define themselves. The spill over effect in African countries may turn out to be intense and may force serious political changes...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:2012 wrote:It looks like all indicators are leading there... What are the indicators. Don't let SM mislead you Revolution in Kenya cannot happen without the support of the educated mass(Unemployed graduates and underpaid employees). Currently, this group of the population is busy with Njunge betting while the noise makers on chocho midia are the middle class who are trying to live a life they cannot afford hence venting on chocho midia and talking about revolution. I can bet my balls that no under employed person will risk going for a demo/ sit down at the expense of missing going to work. You are right. Not the educated but the middle class. "The centre is not holding, things are falling apart". Currently, inequality, unemployment is very high, we are not creating new jobs but retrenching young people (which country in it's right mind retrenches under 30s???), the 40something universities and colleges are churning out hundreds of thousands of graduates including school leavers, corruption is high, elected members are for themselves, handshake vs Ruto not for us, economy, suicides, murders, Impunity, failed judiciary... Endless list. You could say a restart is eminent... or simply call it by it's name, a revolution.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Quote:Kenya/Kenyans will never united to achieve anything meaningful in the near future. I know you will say 2002, that to me just happened by luck (& i still think Kibaki's accident was a major contributing factor of the unity up-to the polls, otherwise ....).  The 2002 'unity' was still tribal. It was a convergence of tribal interests that somehow worked well for the country
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,658
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2012 wrote:Swenani wrote:2012 wrote:It looks like all indicators are leading there... What are the indicators. Don't let SM mislead you Revolution in Kenya cannot happen without the support of the educated mass(Unemployed graduates and underpaid employees). Currently, this group of the population is busy with Njunge betting while the noise makers on chocho midia are the middle class who are trying to live a life they cannot afford hence venting on chocho midia and talking about revolution. I can bet my balls that no under employed person will risk going for a demo/ sit down at the expense of missing going to work. You are right. Not the educated but the middle class. "The centre is not holding, things are falling apart". Currently, inequality, unemployment is very high, we are not creating new jobs but retrenching young people (which country in it's right mind retrenches under 30s???), the 40something universities and colleges are churning out hundreds of thousands of graduates including school leavers, corruption is high, elected members are for themselves, handshake vs Ruto not for us, economy, suicides, murders, Impunity, failed judiciary... Endless list. You could say a restart is eminent... or simply call it by it's name, a revolution. You should direct the question to the 19 year olds(kibaki era kids) not the middle-aged wazuans. Kenya is a very young country median age of 19 years. These young ones are bila chills. I used to entertain myself by going to Uhuru's fb page comments section before it was closed. On retrenchments  poleni Quote:Significant underwriting losses for many players were witnessed last year, leaving a number of insurers with ratios below the legal minimum requirements set by the Insurance Regulatory Authority (IRA).
“I think this is the worst year ever in Kenya’s history. We need to ask for how long. Another one similar year and half of these companies will go bust. Maybe consolidation is an answer,” Jubilee Holdings chairman Nizar Juma told the Business Daily. The educated middle class is under that famous fake Lenin quote 'The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.' The biggest risk is climate change. Another failed rain season and folks in the rural areas will go bananas.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/17/2008 Posts: 489
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Angelica _ann wrote:Kenya has resources which at least maintain us to a bare minimum. As @Swenani says, the guys who should be on the streets will never show up. Devolution has even made it worse since the eating is spread all over. You will wait until you go for that revolution, it will never happen. The other tribal aspect is, people always percieve Luos (& abit of Luhyas) as the guys of chaos who want to destroy hard working results from Kikuyu (wider GEMA), Kisii, (Kaleos???? ) & others. Once this type of thinking is in place you will never have a revolution. Then there are those cowards who will never ever do a thing, they know themselves. North Eastern / Walalos have their own problems to concentrate on. Kenya/Kenyans will never united to achieve anything meaningful in the near future. I know you will say 2002, that to me just happened by luck (& i still think Kibaki's accident was a major contributing factor of the unity up-to the polls, otherwise ....). True. ..we don't have a common enemy that threatens our collective and individual welfare. Unfortunately, widespread as it is, corruption is not since those partaking are you and me. As for the rest, most are unlikely to sacrifice their hustles for even a day in the streets.
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