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sparkly
#21 Posted : Thursday, May 02, 2019 11:13:25 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Fyatu wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
obiero wrote:
rwitre wrote:
These ones have refused with results. LINK

Financial results to be released on or before 31st July 2019

Ok. Clearly this firm is disillusioned. So they are doing things in 2019 that will change what happened in 2018! Ni sawa tu


And this is the reason i advise anyone thinking of investing in the NSE for the first time to keep off. This NSE has become pata potea and fertile ground for daylight fraud. Hapa NSE you are on your own. CMA sio mama yako.Registrar sio mjomba wako.They(both CMA and registrar) will make you know this fact in a very rude way.
They will serve you jeuri yako cold.
Take home message here is, stay far away from NSE if you are thinking of investing here for the first time. You are better off investing in a nduthi that brings you solid cash(350-500 bob) every evening.
Atleast in a nduthi you break even in a year flat while ensuring the great Chinese economy grows in leaps and bounds.Or better still you follow @Mugundaman huko DC and invest in freehold plot of land.In summary you can loose all your money in NSE faster than in Sportspesa multibet..Maoni ni yangu....maoni ni free


@Fyatu blame your stock picking strategies. How did you end up in ADSS, ARM, KQ and HAFR?


Inside ARM and ADSS yes, but not inside KQ and HAFR. To be honest ADSS was pure speculation and not much FA was carried out. I bought their Ngamia 1/Tullow oil proposion and then crude oil prices plunged worldwide and matters went south. Carl Esprey and Ian Mann then wrote me a letter proposing the so called Chancho project somewhere near Addis. This idea of glass manufacturing in a country that consumes millions of gallons of beer was too sweet given that at Ethiopia wa importing beer bottles. Kumbe Carl Esprey was in Ethiopia before and was not paying taxes.....in ARM, the price was plummeting yet they had just commisioned Tanga clinker and cement factories. During the same period SGR was at its early stages of construction leave alone the shiny skyscrappers that now describe Nairobi skyline. The books did not look very bad when CDC pumped in kshs. 14b.I boarded when the price hit 16 bob and them problems set in. First it was electricity manenos huko Tanzania. The board assured us that they had spoken with Magufuli people and that our shiny kilns will be back in full prodiction. Then it was coal ban and we all know what followed next. ARM actually even got the best of us offguard kama the so called "wealthsmiths" based in Nairobi e.g., Sanlam
and others. For the avoidance of doubt, my stock picking strategy is based on two things.....the books and me taking extra effort to find out if the product being sold has an edge over competitors.....for Atlas there was no tangible product/service to be seen and thus the failure.For ARM, the product(Rhino) is back in hardwares and Kenya/Africa is yet to reach 200kgs per person consumption per year so there is still a wide canvas......poleni sana for kizungu mingi and as i promised @Obiero and wazuans, i will document fully my activities at NSE soon



Noted. For me, HAFR is highly speculative, 5% of my portfolio. That said, my other investments in Kengen, Stanbic, Kenya Re, NMG, NIC, TPS though paying dovidends are not doing very well on capital gains. Only Stanbic and NIC are in paper gains.
Life is short. Live passionately.
sparkly
#22 Posted : Sunday, May 05, 2019 8:00:44 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
rwitre wrote:
These ones have refused with results. LINK

Financial results to be released on or before 31st July 2019

Ok. Clearly this firm is disillusioned. So they are doing things in 2019 that will change what happened in 2018! Ni sawa tu


At least they recognize that things are thick, dont ask for bailouts or PIIP.

IMO since they have failed to raise debt publicly or privately, they should come back to us the shareholders for additional Equity capital.
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#23 Posted : Sunday, May 05, 2019 8:05:52 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
rwitre wrote:
These ones have refused with results. LINK

Financial results to be released on or before 31st July 2019

Ok. Clearly this firm is disillusioned. So they are doing things in 2019 that will change what happened in 2018! Ni sawa tu


At least they recognize that things are thick, dont ask for bailouts or PIIP.

IMO since they have failed to raise debt publicly or privately, they should come back to us the shareholders for additional Equity capital.

You have failed to get the point. Read the link with an open mind. They state that they are CURRENTLY effecting strategic changes that will affect results for the PREVIOUS financial year.. If you see nothing wrong with that, ni maombi tu ndio nitakupatia

KQ ABP 4.26
sparkly
#24 Posted : Sunday, May 05, 2019 9:21:42 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
rwitre wrote:
These ones have refused with results. LINK

Financial results to be released on or before 31st July 2019

Ok. Clearly this firm is disillusioned. So they are doing things in 2019 that will change what happened in 2018! Ni sawa tu


At least they recognize that things are thick, dont ask for bailouts or PIIP.

IMO since they have failed to raise debt publicly or privately, they should come back to us the shareholders for additional Equity capital.

You have failed to get the point. Read the link with an open mind. They state that they are CURRENTLY effecting strategic changes that will affect results for the PREVIOUS financial year.. If you see nothing wrong with that, ni maombi tu ndio nitakupatia





This is standard reporting practice for Post Balance Sheet events.

HAFR has a duty to adjust (or disclose in) its Financial Statements positive or negative events that happened after 31 December 2018 and which may affect the viability of the company going forward.

Simply put, if something happened in March 2019 to render the company bankrupt/ near bankrupt, Directors must not wait till next year to tell us so. It should be disclosed in the 2018 Accounts.

They shouldn't do that nosense of rushing the Accounts then restating the figures next year.

See below for your further reading.

https://www.ifrs.org/iss...er-the-reporting-period/
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#25 Posted : Sunday, May 05, 2019 10:00:15 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
rwitre wrote:
These ones have refused with results. LINK

Financial results to be released on or before 31st July 2019

Ok. Clearly this firm is disillusioned. So they are doing things in 2019 that will change what happened in 2018! Ni sawa tu


At least they recognize that things are thick, dont ask for bailouts or PIIP.

IMO since they have failed to raise debt publicly or privately, they should come back to us the shareholders for additional Equity capital.

You have failed to get the point. Read the link with an open mind. They state that they are CURRENTLY effecting strategic changes that will affect results for the PREVIOUS financial year.. If you see nothing wrong with that, ni maombi tu ndio nitakupatia





This is standard reporting practice for Post Balance Sheet events.

HAFR has a duty to adjust (or disclose in) its Financial Statements positive or negative events that happened after 31 December 2018 and which may affect the viability of the company going forward.

Simply put, if something happened in March 2019 to render the company bankrupt/ near bankrupt, Directors must not wait till next year to tell us so. It should be disclosed in the 2018 Accounts.

They shouldn't do that nosense of rushing the Accounts then restating the figures next year.

See below for your further reading.

https://www.ifrs.org/iss...r-the-reporting-period/

Failure to report within time is the nonsense at hand.. Release of a material announcement and/or cautionary statements can suffice in extreme event occurance post-results release, not this bullcrap they are trying out under non adjusting events

KQ ABP 4.26
Ebenyo
#26 Posted : Sunday, May 05, 2019 10:31:11 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
The last results released for HY ended 30th June 2018 was not that bad.Home Africa needs 1 billion to stand on its feet.
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obiero
#27 Posted : Sunday, May 05, 2019 10:57:59 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
Ebenyo wrote:
The last results released for HY ended 30th June 2018 was not that bad.Home Africa needs 1 billion to stand on its feet.

OK. I wait to see how they shall obtain that KES 1B

KQ ABP 4.26
sparkly
#28 Posted : Sunday, May 05, 2019 11:52:46 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
The last results released for HY ended 30th June 2018 was not that bad.Home Africa needs 1 billion to stand on its feet.

OK. I wait to see how they shall obtain that KES 1B


Company is still majority held by founding shareholders who happen to be very conservative middle class fellows.

A new set of entrepreneurial shareholders and Directors is needed to capitalize the company and lead it on a path of ambitious growth. If I had the cash, I would launch a takeover bid.
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#29 Posted : Sunday, May 05, 2019 11:56:37 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
The last results released for HY ended 30th June 2018 was not that bad.Home Africa needs 1 billion to stand on its feet.

OK. I wait to see how they shall obtain that KES 1B


Company is still majority held by founding shareholders who happen to be very conservative middle class fellows.

A new set of entrepreneurial shareholders and Directors is needed to capitalize the company and lead it on a path of ambitious growth. If I had the cash, I would launch a takeover bid.

Remember if a prized cow is dead, however sad you may be, it's cheaper to conduct a burial than to seek out a vet doctor to determine whether the animal can be revived

KQ ABP 4.26
xxxxx
#30 Posted : Sunday, May 05, 2019 11:58:39 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 3/20/2008
Posts: 503
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=rwitre]These ones have refused with results. LINK

Financial results to be released on or before 31st July 2019

Ok. Clearly this firm is disillusioned. So they are doing things in 2019 that will change what happened in 2018! Ni sawa tu


At least they recognize that things are thick, dont ask for bailouts or PIIP.

IMO since they have failed to raise debt publicly or privately, they should come back to us the shareholders for additional Equity capital.

You have failed to get the point. Read the link with an open mind. They state that they are CURRENTLY effecting strategic changes that will affect results for the PREVIOUS financial year.. If you see nothing wrong with that, ni maombi tu ndio nitakupatia





This is standard reporting practice for Post Balance Sheet events.

HAFR has a duty to adjust (or disclose in) its Financial Statements positive or negative events that happened after 31 December 2018 and which may affect the viability of the company going forward.

Simply put, if something happened in March 2019 to render the company bankrupt/ near bankrupt, Directors must not wait till next year to tell us so. It should be disclosed in the 2018 Accounts.

They shouldn't do that nosense of rushing the Accounts then restating the figures next year.

See below for your further reading.

https://www.ifrs.org/iss...r-the-reporting-period/[/quote]

Home Afrika is seeking financing.

This was the same situation as at 31 December 2018.

Me thinks Home Afrika was insolvent as at 31 December 2018.

Me also thinks management and the board failed to convince their.financiers to give them letters of support or similar guarantees that they would avail financing as required in the 12 months period post year end. Home Afrika could therefore not convince their auditors of the appropriate ness of preparing their financials on a going concern basis to avoid preparing their financials on a break up basis or have a qualified opinion if that failed.

Me thinks Home Afrika consequently opts to delay publication on grounds of arrangements in progress and gets approval from the regulators.

Me thinks Nothing they are working on would likely constitute an Adjusting event which would change the company's position as at 31 December 2018 in so far as the standard is concerned. The only change would most likely be with the auditors opinion. Cautionary announcements would suffice.

Surely we've been here before with ArmCement as wazuans. We were told CDC was coming in to support hence the delay in publication. Support never materialized to this day. Look where arm is now.

Same script different cast (only the regulators are constant). We should learn to cut our losses and run as soon as we spot these shenanigans.

I do not believe Home Afrika is a going concernShame on you Shame on you
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