wazua Wed, Mar 18, 2026
Welcome Guest Search | Active Topics | Log In

12 Pages<1234>»
SGR officially dead. What next?
Options
Previous Topic · Next Topic
obiero
#11 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2019 6:20:07 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,211
Location: nairobi
murchr wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Economic prophet, David ndii saw this coming and warned us .we stoned him for being a prophet of doom


https://mobile.nation.co...xhtml-bprsh4/index.html

https://www.theeastafric...-unpleasant-arithmetic/

https://www.tuko.co.ke/2...ity-sgr-david-ndii.html



Calm down its not dead prophet of doom.

It's a very convenient train from Coast to Nairobi.. The cost was exorbitant but it is a good service

KQ ABP 4.26
Back to top
WWW
  |
Impunity
#12 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2019 7:29:01 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
If they can refurbish the MGR to Kisumu, it can just work very well...moving cargo at 60km/h is internationally accepted.
Passengers who want to go fast to Kisumu can use KQ.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
Back to top
  |
kayhara
#13 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2019 10:25:44 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 5/5/2011
Posts: 1,059
Uhuru Ruto will leave without any complete project and a whole list of failed ones from she, 10k annuity roads, huduma namba, cancelled runway and Greenfield terminal and I doubt the current projects Will be complete by the time the 2 leave,
To Each His Own
Back to top
  |
hardwood
#14 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2019 10:34:52 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
I understand the chinese have been surveying the lunatic railway to eldoret and kisumu. Seems plans have been underway to upgrade this reli.
Back to top
  | | Edit by user: Saturday, April 27, 2019 10:37 PM | Reason: Not specified
Impunity
#15 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2019 1:23:46 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
hardwood wrote:
I understand the chinese have been surveying the lunatic railway to eldoret and kisumu. Seems plans have been underway to upgrade this reli.









Its not "upgrade" but to "refurbish"....githeri media don't know tofauti.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
Back to top
  |
mkenyan
#16 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2019 9:35:45 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/1/2009
Posts: 1,885
Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
I understand the chinese have been surveying the lunatic railway to eldoret and kisumu. Seems plans have been underway to upgrade this reli.









Its not "upgrade" but to "refurbish"....githeri media don't know tofauti.

it is hardwook who has said upgrade. or he is the githeri media?
Back to top
  |
sparkly
#17 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2019 11:19:27 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
[quote=nairobby]SGR construction to end in Naivasha as funding wasn't be secured. Kenya wouldn't be able add 378 billion debt to finance Naivasha - Kisumu to its balance sheet anyway. What next now for this white elephant?

https://twitter.com/citi...tus/1121837800247234560[/quote]

Foolishly looking at the small picture. For your information:
1. Plans for standard gauge railway lines to connect East Africa to West Africa and Cape to Cairo;
2. Plans go back over 100 yrs ago when the British ruled most of Africa;
3. Landfaced countries have to invest in SGR before the landlocked countries, common sennse since railways must terminate at seaports hence Kenya has to commit before UG, SS, CAR;
4. Might not happen in your lifetime but will happen anyway. Historical attempts to connect the East to the West, around or through African well documented re. Vasco Da Gama and Suez Canal.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Back to top
  |
Monk
#18 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2019 6:48:16 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 7/1/2009
Posts: 272
limanika wrote:
I'm very happy China is asking the right questions. Now we need to know if there was ever a feasibility done for the Naivasha-Kisumu line that govt was using to solicit for the funds. If it was there, what is it that the Chinese were not happy with?. And does govt have any experts who could advise the feasibility was not adding up? why wait for cold water to be poured on your document in a foreign land? Though I highly suspect there was none.


From my recollection, there was no feasibility study on the MSA-NBI section either. Kimunya, the Kibaki era minister reported that they got the SGR Chinese contractor to do the FS, despite the obvious conflict of interest in such an arrangement. I wouldn't call that a feasibility study, and the minister embarrassed us as a country.
Back to top
  |
nairobby
#19 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2019 9:51:02 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 1/18/2019
Posts: 185
Location: kenya
sparkly wrote:
[quote=nairobby]SGR construction to end in Naivasha as funding wasn't be secured. Kenya wouldn't be able add 378 billion debt to finance Naivasha - Kisumu to its balance sheet anyway. What next now for this white elephant?

https://twitter.com/citi...tus/1121837800247234560[/quote]

Foolishly looking at the small picture. For your information:
1. Plans for standard gauge railway lines to connect East Africa to West Africa and Cape to Cairo;
2. Plans go back over 100 yrs ago when the British ruled most of Africa;
3. Landfaced countries have to invest in SGR before the landlocked countries, common sennse since railways must terminate at seaports hence Kenya has to commit before UG, SS, CAR;
4. Might not happen in your lifetime but will happen anyway. Historical attempts to connect the East to the West, around or through African well documented re. Vasco Da Gama and Suez Canal.


Rail is ancient technology. Rail only accounts for 30% of freight in Europe. I don't know what magic you people think this railway will produce. The fact that we have to subsidise it to work says it all.
Back to top
  |
sparkly
#20 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2019 10:44:25 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
nairobby wrote:
sparkly wrote:
[quote=nairobby]SGR construction to end in Naivasha as funding wasn't be secured. Kenya wouldn't be able add 378 billion debt to finance Naivasha - Kisumu to its balance sheet anyway. What next now for this white elephant?

https://twitter.com/citi...tus/1121837800247234560[/quote]

Foolishly looking at the small picture. For your information:
1. Plans for standard gauge railway lines to connect East Africa to West Africa and Cape to Cairo;
2. Plans go back over 100 yrs ago when the British ruled most of Africa;
3. Landfaced countries have to invest in SGR before the landlocked countries, common sennse since railways must terminate at seaports hence Kenya has to commit before UG, SS, CAR;
4. Might not happen in your lifetime but will happen anyway. Historical attempts to connect the East to the West, around or through African well documented re. Vasco Da Gama and Suez Canal.


Rail is ancient technology. Rail only accounts for 30% of freight in Europe. I don't know what magic you people think this railway will produce. The fact that we have to subsidise it to work says it all.



Africa is not Europe..Western Europe is size of Congo.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Back to top
  |
12 Pages<1234>»
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Wazua Investor Theme
Powered by YAF | YAF © 2003-2009, Yet Another Forum.NET
Copyright © 2026 Wazua.co.ke. All Rights Reserved.