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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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US do not care about democracy, it is about power, it cares about economically controling, imperialism. So anyone who is perceived to economically grow "uncontrollably", is an enemy...
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If it succeeds and it likely will, the Belt & Silk dragon project will be the beginning of North Americas decline.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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2012 wrote:China is probably the most organized nation in the world. It may look like a dictatorship but it's more of a necessary, working political formula of organizing a large population of 1.4billion It's the ants' system almost perfectly replicated by human.
Compared to US (325m) and EU (512m) who are more disorganised due to 'democracy' while their combined population is slightly above half of China, there's clear cause due worry in regards of trade and political dominance on the world stage.
The biggest thing to fear though is 5G telecommunication, a techonoly that will have a huge impact in our way of life. China is miles ahead in the development of implementing the technology in large scale. Nokia and Ericsson can implement the same only slower than China's company by 9 months.
We're in for interesting times but the fear of China is well founded because, as we all know the next (already current) battle will be on information. Control. Information and you control the world. True true. At any point throughout known human history, there's always that one nation that is the superpower, the indispensable one. Then due to factors within and/ or without, after 10s or 100s of years, a change happens and new sheriff appears on the scene. In antiquity am sure China was the superpower at some point..then came others ..Turkey, Portugal, Netherlands, Spain, Britain, USSR, and now US have had their day. I feel we'll soon be back where it all started as China takes the Mantle. The 5g headstart was sure to accerelate the switch...but US seems to have realized and now putting breaks on Chinese companies like huawei. Let's how it turns out. The existing power will always resist the rise of another and it always led to war in all past instances. Hope this time round we will switch peacefully
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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The only interesting thing is that to be a superpower - people need to not only acknowledge you because of your finances but also because of your culture and influence. Even Russia (USSR) was good at this. it had a ideology and it had people who followed the ideology. Turks, Persians even Muslim caliphates had an element of culture infusion whenever they took over. In the current setup - the Western world has been keen on this. We consume everything based on their metrics. We all want big houses with huge lawns. We even go to china to get stuff so that we can live not like the chinese but the westerners. The best versions of ourselves are framed in western culture and lifestyles and values. We don't build roads to be like china - we build them to be like some random white peoples country. China is a tool for the most part... everyone is using it, paying to it so that they can be as western as they can. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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I just thought about it... we have had really rich wahindi in Kenya. We acknowledge that they are wealthy but their ways are strange. We don’t aspire to live like them, speak like them or even believe what they believe. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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limanika wrote:2012 wrote:China is probably the most organized nation in the world. It may look like a dictatorship but it's more of a necessary, working political formula of organizing a large population of 1.4billion It's the ants' system almost perfectly replicated by human.
Compared to US (325m) and EU (512m) who are more disorganised due to 'democracy' while their combined population is slightly above half of China, there's clear cause due worry in regards of trade and political dominance on the world stage.
The biggest thing to fear though is 5G telecommunication, a techonoly that will have a huge impact in our way of life. China is miles ahead in the development of implementing the technology in large scale. Nokia and Ericsson can implement the same only slower than China's company by 9 months.
We're in for interesting times but the fear of China is well founded because, as we all know the next (already current) battle will be on information. Control. Information and you control the world. True true. At any point throughout known human history, there's always that one nation that is the superpower, the indispensable one. Then due to factors within and/ or without, after 10s or 100s of years, a change happens and new sheriff appears on the scene. In antiquity am sure China was the superpower at some point..then came others . .Turkey, Portugal, Netherlands, Spain, Britain, USSR, and now US have had their day. I feel we'll soon be back where it all started as China takes the Mantle. The 5g headstart was sure to accerelate the switch...but US seems to have realized and now putting breaks on Chinese companies like huawei. Let's how it turns out. The existing power will always resist the rise of another and it always led to war in all past instances. Hope this time round we will switch peacefully @limanika, and why did you leave out the Caliphate? Or you do not know they ruled the world for 100 years?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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AlphDoti wrote:limanika wrote:2012 wrote:China is probably the most organized nation in the world. It may look like a dictatorship but it's more of a necessary, working political formula of organizing a large population of 1.4billion It's the ants' system almost perfectly replicated by human.
Compared to US (325m) and EU (512m) who are more disorganised due to 'democracy' while their combined population is slightly above half of China, there's clear cause due worry in regards of trade and political dominance on the world stage.
The biggest thing to fear though is 5G telecommunication, a techonoly that will have a huge impact in our way of life. China is miles ahead in the development of implementing the technology in large scale. Nokia and Ericsson can implement the same only slower than China's company by 9 months.
We're in for interesting times but the fear of China is well founded because, as we all know the next (already current) battle will be on information. Control. Information and you control the world. True true. At any point throughout known human history, there's always that one nation that is the superpower, the indispensable one. Then due to factors within and/ or without, after 10s or 100s of years, a change happens and new sheriff appears on the scene. In antiquity am sure China was the superpower at some point..then came others . .Turkey, Portugal, Netherlands, Spain, Britain, USSR, and now US have had their day. I feel we'll soon be back where it all started as China takes the Mantle. The 5g headstart was sure to accerelate the switch...but US seems to have realized and now putting breaks on Chinese companies like huawei. Let's how it turns out. The existing power will always resist the rise of another and it always led to war in all past instances. Hope this time round we will switch peacefully @limanika, and why did you leave out the Caliphate? Or you do not know they ruled the world for 100 years? In my list that's represented by present day Turkey (Ottoman empire)
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