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Centum HY 2018/2019
Ericsson
#31 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:04:22 PM
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Centum has put Sidian on the market with intention of selling it to a willing buyer;


"Last month, Sidian Bank chief executive Chege Thumbi said the lower-tier lender was open for merger talks, joining the list of lenders mulling similar deals."
Mr Thumbi said the bank has been having informal discussions with other lenders even though he declined to reveal the names.

“As and when discussions progress to a level where we are confident to announce anything, we will come back to you. A lot of conversations do happen once in a while and until it matures, we can’t give details,” he said.

“We are very open for merger with other banks and also opportunities of acquisition of other banks --- I am sure everyone in the market is looking at how to get bigger, better more efficient and create stronger banks.”

https://www.businessdail...084124-pb6axg/index.html
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VituVingiSana
#32 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2019 5:49:26 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Centum has put Sidian on the market with intention of selling it to a willing buyer;


"Last month, Sidian Bank chief executive Chege Thumbi said the lower-tier lender was open for merger talks, joining the list of lenders mulling similar deals."
Mr Thumbi said the bank has been having informal discussions with other lenders even though he declined to reveal the names.

“As and when discussions progress to a level where we are confident to announce anything, we will come back to you. A lot of conversations do happen once in a while and until it matures, we can’t give details,” he said.

“We are very open for merger with other banks and also opportunities of acquisition of other banks --- I am sure everyone in the market is looking at how to get bigger, better more efficient and create stronger banks.”

https://www.businessdail...84124-pb6axg/index.html

Given the current mood and unlikeliness of the Interest Cap being lifted, it makes sense to do so.
Acknowledge the hurt. Centum needs to reduce the valuation is has for Sidian from 1.4x BV to 1.0x (at most).
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#33 Posted : Tuesday, April 23, 2019 5:51:55 PM
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I remain bullish on Centum based on the discount to BV even after I deduct:
Sidian's over-valuation (from 1.4x BV to 1.0x BV)
Akira
Amu
TRDL valuation reduction given the state of real estate
TRLC valuation reduction given the state of malls and offices
Other not-so-great businesses
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
nairobby
#34 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:59:30 AM
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They'll have to deal with the debt issue which is my biggest worry and may that mean selling a valuable business to raise cash?
VituVingiSana
#35 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2019 2:21:18 PM
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nairobby wrote:
They'll have to deal with the debt issue which is my biggest worry and may that mean selling a valuable business to raise cash?

If Centum gets a good price for a "valuable" business, it is not a bad idea to sell the business and reduce debt.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
nairobby
#36 Posted : Thursday, April 25, 2019 8:57:46 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
nairobby wrote:
They'll have to deal with the debt issue which is my biggest worry and may that mean selling a valuable business to raise cash?

If Centum gets a good price for a "valuable" business, it is not a bad idea to sell the business and reduce debt.


What about future cash flows then? Because if they sell a business with good cash flow like their beverage business for example that won't be good long term given how their other units like Real Estate, Sidian are struggling.I like Centum but eh I'm somehow skeptical to buy some more..
VituVingiSana
#37 Posted : Thursday, April 25, 2019 1:39:31 PM
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nairobby wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
nairobby wrote:
They'll have to deal with the debt issue which is my biggest worry and may that mean selling a valuable business to raise cash?

If Centum gets a good price for a "valuable" business, it is not a bad idea to sell the business and reduce debt.


What about future cash flows then? Because if they sell a business with good cash flow like their beverage business for example that won't be good long term given how their other units like Real Estate, Sidian are struggling.I like Centum but eh I'm somehow skeptical to buy some more..
Reduce debt, reduce the need to generate cash to make loan payments.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
rwitre
#38 Posted : Tuesday, April 30, 2019 12:13:34 PM
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Back to buy zone. smile
VituVingiSana
#39 Posted : Thursday, May 02, 2019 12:10:08 AM
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New vehicle sales drop 14.5pc in first quarter
https://www.businessdail...6596-vlxd0xz/index.html

Most, including Toyota Kenya and Simba Corporation, recorded significant sales decline. Isuzu East Africa was the only major dealer to register higher sales.
Unit sales at Isuzu rose to 1,019 from 891 while those of Toyota fell to 672 from 812. Simba Corp’s sales also dropped to 487 from 514.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#40 Posted : Thursday, May 02, 2019 12:35:22 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
New vehicle sales drop 14.5pc in first quarter
https://www.businessdail...6596-vlxd0xz/index.html

Most, including Toyota Kenya and Simba Corporation, recorded significant sales decline. Isuzu East Africa was the only major dealer to register higher sales.
Unit sales at Isuzu rose to 1,019 from 891 while those of Toyota fell to 672 from 812. Simba Corp’s sales also dropped to 487 from 514.


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