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Lolest! wrote:Quote:The killer is whoever the bloggers choose it to be. And it doesn't change anything apart from rousing emotions, the case remains cold. The blogger was just after retweets and likes Just read Mr Ward's account of his daughter's death in the link by hardwood Am sorry but was the father there when the girl was being killed? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:Quote:The killer is whoever the bloggers choose it to be. And it doesn't change anything apart from rousing emotions, the case remains cold. The blogger was just after retweets and likes Just read Mr Ward's account of his daughter's death in the link by hardwood Am sorry but was the father there when the girl was being killed? He talks of investigations he did & statements he received. Were you there?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,883
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Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:Quote:The killer is whoever the bloggers choose it to be. And it doesn't change anything apart from rousing emotions, the case remains cold. The blogger was just after retweets and likes Just read Mr Ward's account of his daughter's death in the link by hardwood Am sorry but was the father there when the girl was being killed? He talks of investigations he did & statements he received. Were you there? good question lo lest
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:There are different types of cancer, which one got him? this somehow matters? Yes. When these people die, more often than not, the reason given is not the one... If someone has cancer, they are very quick to mention the type. Why leave it to speculations? coz it keeps you busy and engaged! the point is.. it really doesn't matter what killed him - HE IS DEAD! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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mkenyan wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:Quote:The killer is whoever the bloggers choose it to be. And it doesn't change anything apart from rousing emotions, the case remains cold. The blogger was just after retweets and likes Just read Mr Ward's account of his daughter's death in the link by hardwood Am sorry but was the father there when the girl was being killed? He talks of investigations he did & statements he received. Were you there? good question lo lest There is alot of red flags around this murder that points to someone very powerful then committing the crime. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:There are different types of cancer, which one got him? this somehow matters? Yes. When these people die, more often than not, the reason given is not the one... If someone has cancer, they are very quick to mention the type. Why leave it to speculations? coz it keeps you busy and engaged! the point is.. it really doesn't matter what killed him - HE IS DEAD! True. Most things about other people don't matter anyway but it matter in the social space. If it was suicide, AIDS, murder, drugs... it would make for interesting learnings...
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:There are different types of cancer, which one got him? this somehow matters? Yes. When these people die, more often than not, the reason given is not the one... If someone has cancer, they are very quick to mention the type. Why leave it to speculations? coz it keeps you busy and engaged! the point is.. it really doesn't matter what killed him - HE IS DEAD! True. Most things about other people don't matter anyway but it matter in the social space. If it was suicide, AIDS, murder, drugs... it would make for interesting learnings... it would make for interesting gossip! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Machamba still not welcome at kabarak? https://www.the-star.co....-to-convey-condolences/
Quote:Deputy President William Ruto on Wednesday afternoon flew to Baringo County to convey his message of condolence to the family of the late Jonathan Toritich, the son of former President Daniel Moi.
Unlike President Uhuru Kenyatta who visited retired President Moi at his Kabarak home in Nakuru county on Monday, the DP opted to visit Jonathan’s home in Kabimoi almost 54km away from Kabarak.
Last year in May, Ruto was blocked from visiting Moi at his home, an issue that brew a political storm.
Ruto had flown to Moi's home but failed to meet him after waiting for three hours.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:Quote:The killer is whoever the bloggers choose it to be. And it doesn't change anything apart from rousing emotions, the case remains cold. The blogger was just after retweets and likes Just read Mr Ward's account of his daughter's death in the link by hardwood Am sorry but was the father there when the girl was being killed? He talks of investigations he did & statements he received. Were you there? No I wasn't, and i bet he too....the man was/is/and will ever be emotional about his daughter, that cannot be blamed. The Scotland yard carried out some DNA analysis and 2 new witnesses came up 10 years ago, where are the results? Or maybe there was no juice in all of it? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:Quote:The killer is whoever the bloggers choose it to be. And it doesn't change anything apart from rousing emotions, the case remains cold. The blogger was just after retweets and likes Just read Mr Ward's account of his daughter's death in the link by hardwood Am sorry but was the father there when the girl was being killed? He talks of investigations he did & statements he received. Were you there? No I wasn't, and i bet he too....the man was/is/and will ever be emotional about his daughter, that cannot be blamed. The Scotland yard carried out some DNA analysis and 2 new witnesses came up 10 years ago, where are the results? Or maybe there was no juice in all of it? This is not an issue about blogging Murchr. Facts are there for you to see. Now he's dead. Let his family grieve. But don't try to sanitize these mother f***er. We all know why Gideon is the chosen one and not this one. Ati a nice guy....Buy me a booze I tell you stories. Heck I'm even scared of him even after death. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:Quote:The killer is whoever the bloggers choose it to be. And it doesn't change anything apart from rousing emotions, the case remains cold. The blogger was just after retweets and likes Just read Mr Ward's account of his daughter's death in the link by hardwood Am sorry but was the father there when the girl was being killed? He talks of investigations he did & statements he received. Were you there? No I wasn't, and i bet he too....the man was/is/and will ever be emotional about his daughter, that cannot be blamed. The Scotland yard carried out some DNA analysis and 2 new witnesses came up 10 years ago, where are the results? Or maybe there was no juice in all of it? This is not an issue about blogging Murchr. Facts are there for you to see. Now he's dead. Let his family grieve. But don't try to sanitize these mother f***er. We all know why Gideon is the chosen one and not this one. Ati a nice guy....Buy me a booze I tell you stories. Heck I'm even scared of him even after death. Quote:"What is needed is a policeman who is brave enough to tackle the issues head-on," he added. "John Yates has a reputation for getting stuck into a case and he is determined to make progress. There are two new, potentially crucial witnesses – one who saw Julie shortly before she was killed, with one of the suspects. The other witness has identified two suspects he says carried out the murder and his evidence is very compelling.
"Advances in forensic techniques mean that human DNA has been identified for the first time from evidence taken from the murder scene back in 1988. If the new DNA belongs to one of our suspects – who has insisted he was never at the scene – then he has some explaining to do."
Miss Ward was last seen alive in Kenya on September 6, 1988, after she travelled to the Masai Mara with Dr Glen Burns, an Australian friend. After their vehicle broke down, she spent the night alone at the Mara Serena lodge because Dr Burns had to return to Nairobi. The next day, she drove in the repaired 4x4 to the Sand River camp nearby to recover her camping equipment.
Her remains were found by her father on September 13. The Kenyan authorities, who were keen to protect the country's tourism industry, initially claimed she had been killed by wild animals. Others said that Miss Ward, a publishing assistant, could have committed suicide or have been hit by lightning. We have to appreciate that back then every thing was blamed on Moi and Biwott. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:Quote:The killer is whoever the bloggers choose it to be. And it doesn't change anything apart from rousing emotions, the case remains cold. The blogger was just after retweets and likes Just read Mr Ward's account of his daughter's death in the link by hardwood Am sorry but was the father there when the girl was being killed? He talks of investigations he did & statements he received. Were you there? No I wasn't, and i bet he too....the man was/is/and will ever be emotional about his daughter, that cannot be blamed. The Scotland yard carried out some DNA analysis and 2 new witnesses came up 10 years ago, where are the results? Or maybe there was no juice in all of it? This is not an issue about blogging Murchr. Facts are there for you to see. Now he's dead. Let his family grieve. But don't try to sanitize these mother f***er. We all know why Gideon is the chosen one and not this one. Ati a nice guy....Buy me a booze I tell you stories. Heck I'm even scared of him even after death. Quote:"What is needed is a policeman who is brave enough to tackle the issues head-on," he added. "John Yates has a reputation for getting stuck into a case and he is determined to make progress. There are two new, potentially crucial witnesses – one who saw Julie shortly before she was killed, with one of the suspects. The other witness has identified two suspects he says carried out the murder and his evidence is very compelling.
"Advances in forensic techniques mean that human DNA has been identified for the first time from evidence taken from the murder scene back in 1988. If the new DNA belongs to one of our suspects – who has insisted he was never at the scene – then he has some explaining to do."
Miss Ward was last seen alive in Kenya on September 6, 1988, after she travelled to the Masai Mara with Dr Glen Burns, an Australian friend. After their vehicle broke down, she spent the night alone at the Mara Serena lodge because Dr Burns had to return to Nairobi. The next day, she drove in the repaired 4x4 to the Sand River camp nearby to recover her camping equipment.
Her remains were found by her father on September 13. The Kenyan authorities, who were keen to protect the country's tourism industry, initially claimed she had been killed by wild animals. Others said that Miss Ward, a publishing assistant, could have committed suicide or have been hit by lightning. We have to appreciate that back then every thing was blamed on Moi and Biwott. I agree. And we do the blame game on Wazua too... But this one? Let his family grieve in peace...RIP for me won't happen. Biwott is for me the most misused name in this country. Yet we have people like this one..Using daddy's name... Sorry Murchr. On the issue of Julie. Even using your fake Standard Newspapers story, noee of the people mentioned were brought to court.... ButI was not there. So I shall let my mind think on reality. This was not a nice guy. That is my view and that is what it is.I personally have my own reasons why I think he was not a nice guy. So do very very very very many people. Moi's brand suffered coz of kids like this one.Ask why Gideon was preferred. Coz Gideon is actually a nice. His problem is he can't speak kalenjin. Just like me. For once I support Ruto. He should not be seen anywhere around this guy. But he can pretend he was there. Let him go and we forget him. Coz remembering someone like this one coz he used to drive a fast car is stupid. Let him get buried. We forget him. After all, for 99% of wazua, no one cares about him. I pray he get's what he deserves. Amen. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:Quote:The killer is whoever the bloggers choose it to be. And it doesn't change anything apart from rousing emotions, the case remains cold. The blogger was just after retweets and likes Just read Mr Ward's account of his daughter's death in the link by hardwood Am sorry but was the father there when the girl was being killed? He talks of investigations he did & statements he received. Were you there? No I wasn't, and i bet he too....the man was/is/and will ever be emotional about his daughter, that cannot be blamed. The Scotland yard carried out some DNA analysis and 2 new witnesses came up 10 years ago, where are the results? Or maybe there was no juice in all of it? This is not an issue about blogging Murchr. Facts are there for you to see. Now he's dead. Let his family grieve. But don't try to sanitize these mother f***er. We all know why Gideon is the chosen one and not this one. Ati a nice guy....Buy me a booze I tell you stories. Heck I'm even scared of him even after death. Quote:"What is needed is a policeman who is brave enough to tackle the issues head-on," he added. "John Yates has a reputation for getting stuck into a case and he is determined to make progress. There are two new, potentially crucial witnesses – one who saw Julie shortly before she was killed, with one of the suspects. The other witness has identified two suspects he says carried out the murder and his evidence is very compelling.
"Advances in forensic techniques mean that human DNA has been identified for the first time from evidence taken from the murder scene back in 1988. If the new DNA belongs to one of our suspects – who has insisted he was never at the scene – then he has some explaining to do."
Miss Ward was last seen alive in Kenya on September 6, 1988, after she travelled to the Masai Mara with Dr Glen Burns, an Australian friend. After their vehicle broke down, she spent the night alone at the Mara Serena lodge because Dr Burns had to return to Nairobi. The next day, she drove in the repaired 4x4 to the Sand River camp nearby to recover her camping equipment.
Her remains were found by her father on September 13. The Kenyan authorities, who were keen to protect the country's tourism industry, initially claimed she had been killed by wild animals. Others said that Miss Ward, a publishing assistant, could have committed suicide or have been hit by lightning. We have to appreciate that back then every thing was blamed on Moi and Biwott. I agree. And we do the blame game on Wazua too... But this one? Let his family grieve in peace...RIP for me won't happen. Biwott is for me the most misused name in this country. Yet we have people like this one..Using daddy's name... Sorry Murchr. On the issue of Julie. Even using your fake Standard Newspapers story, noee of the people mentioned were brought to court.... ButI was not there. So I shall let my mind think on reality. This was not a nice guy. That is my view and that is what it is.I personally have my own reasons why I think he was not a nice guy. So do very very very very many people. Moi's brand suffered coz of kids like this one.Ask why Gideon was preferred. Coz Gideon is actually a nice. His problem is he can't speak kalenjin. Just like me. For once I support Ruto. He should not be seen anywhere around this guy. But he can pretend he was there. Let him go and we forget him. Coz remembering someone like this one coz he used to drive a fast car is stupid. Let him get buried. We forget him. After all, for 99% of wazua, no one cares about him. I pray he get's what he deserves. Amen. I don't know any of the Mois, what I hear is the gossip from the media and bloggers. When this Moi(JT) lost his parliament seat, he didn't force himself to the people and apart from this supposed discovery that was made on his day of death, i haven't heard his name mentioned anywhere. Kenyans just need to respect the bereaved "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:Quote:The killer is whoever the bloggers choose it to be. And it doesn't change anything apart from rousing emotions, the case remains cold. The blogger was just after retweets and likes Just read Mr Ward's account of his daughter's death in the link by hardwood Am sorry but was the father there when the girl was being killed? He talks of investigations he did & statements he received. Were you there? No I wasn't, and i bet he too....the man was/is/and will ever be emotional about his daughter, that cannot be blamed. The Scotland yard carried out some DNA analysis and 2 new witnesses came up 10 years ago, where are the results? Or maybe there was no juice in all of it? This is not an issue about blogging Murchr. Facts are there for you to see. Now he's dead. Let his family grieve. But don't try to sanitize these mother f***er. We all know why Gideon is the chosen one and not this one. Ati a nice guy....Buy me a booze I tell you stories. Heck I'm even scared of him even after death. Quote:"What is needed is a policeman who is brave enough to tackle the issues head-on," he added. "John Yates has a reputation for getting stuck into a case and he is determined to make progress. There are two new, potentially crucial witnesses – one who saw Julie shortly before she was killed, with one of the suspects. The other witness has identified two suspects he says carried out the murder and his evidence is very compelling.
"Advances in forensic techniques mean that human DNA has been identified for the first time from evidence taken from the murder scene back in 1988. If the new DNA belongs to one of our suspects – who has insisted he was never at the scene – then he has some explaining to do."
Miss Ward was last seen alive in Kenya on September 6, 1988, after she travelled to the Masai Mara with Dr Glen Burns, an Australian friend. After their vehicle broke down, she spent the night alone at the Mara Serena lodge because Dr Burns had to return to Nairobi. The next day, she drove in the repaired 4x4 to the Sand River camp nearby to recover her camping equipment.
Her remains were found by her father on September 13. The Kenyan authorities, who were keen to protect the country's tourism industry, initially claimed she had been killed by wild animals. Others said that Miss Ward, a publishing assistant, could have committed suicide or have been hit by lightning. We have to appreciate that back then every thing was blamed on Moi and Biwott. I agree. And we do the blame game on Wazua too... But this one? Let his family grieve in peace...RIP for me won't happen. Biwott is for me the most misused name in this country. Yet we have people like this one..Using daddy's name... Sorry Murchr. On the issue of Julie. Even using your fake Standard Newspapers story, noee of the people mentioned were brought to court.... ButI was not there. So I shall let my mind think on reality. This was not a nice guy. That is my view and that is what it is.I personally have my own reasons why I think he was not a nice guy. So do very very very very many people. Moi's brand suffered coz of kids like this one.Ask why Gideon was preferred. Coz Gideon is actually a nice. His problem is he can't speak kalenjin. Just like me. For once I support Ruto. He should not be seen anywhere around this guy. But he can pretend he was there. Let him go and we forget him. Coz remembering someone like this one coz he used to drive a fast car is stupid. Let him get buried. We forget him. After all, for 99% of wazua, no one cares about him. I pray he get's what he deserves. Amen. I don't know any of the Mois, what I hear is the gossip from the media and bloggers. When this Moi(JT) lost his parliament seat, he didn't force himself to the people and apart from this supposed discovery that was made on his day of death, i haven't heard his name mentioned anywhere. Kenyans just need to respect the bereaved It was never his. He contested twice and lost on the two occasions. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote:Quote:The killer is whoever the bloggers choose it to be. And it doesn't change anything apart from rousing emotions, the case remains cold. The blogger was just after retweets and likes Just read Mr Ward's account of his daughter's death in the link by hardwood Am sorry but was the father there when the girl was being killed? He talks of investigations he did & statements he received. Were you there? No I wasn't, and i bet he too....the man was/is/and will ever be emotional about his daughter, that cannot be blamed. The Scotland yard carried out some DNA analysis and 2 new witnesses came up 10 years ago, where are the results? Or maybe there was no juice in all of it? This is not an issue about blogging Murchr. Facts are there for you to see. Now he's dead. Let his family grieve. But don't try to sanitize these mother f***er. We all know why Gideon is the chosen one and not this one. Ati a nice guy....Buy me a booze I tell you stories. Heck I'm even scared of him even after death. Quote:"What is needed is a policeman who is brave enough to tackle the issues head-on," he added. "John Yates has a reputation for getting stuck into a case and he is determined to make progress. There are two new, potentially crucial witnesses – one who saw Julie shortly before she was killed, with one of the suspects. The other witness has identified two suspects he says carried out the murder and his evidence is very compelling.
"Advances in forensic techniques mean that human DNA has been identified for the first time from evidence taken from the murder scene back in 1988. If the new DNA belongs to one of our suspects – who has insisted he was never at the scene – then he has some explaining to do."
Miss Ward was last seen alive in Kenya on September 6, 1988, after she travelled to the Masai Mara with Dr Glen Burns, an Australian friend. After their vehicle broke down, she spent the night alone at the Mara Serena lodge because Dr Burns had to return to Nairobi. The next day, she drove in the repaired 4x4 to the Sand River camp nearby to recover her camping equipment.
Her remains were found by her father on September 13. The Kenyan authorities, who were keen to protect the country's tourism industry, initially claimed she had been killed by wild animals. Others said that Miss Ward, a publishing assistant, could have committed suicide or have been hit by lightning. We have to appreciate that back then every thing was blamed on Moi and Biwott. I agree. And we do the blame game on Wazua too... But this one? Let his family grieve in peace...RIP for me won't happen. Biwott is for me the most misused name in this country. Yet we have people like this one..Using daddy's name... Sorry Murchr. On the issue of Julie. Even using your fake Standard Newspapers story, noee of the people mentioned were brought to court.... ButI was not there. So I shall let my mind think on reality. This was not a nice guy. That is my view and that is what it is.I personally have my own reasons why I think he was not a nice guy. So do very very very very many people. Moi's brand suffered coz of kids like this one.Ask why Gideon was preferred. Coz Gideon is actually a nice. His problem is he can't speak kalenjin. Just like me. For once I support Ruto. He should not be seen anywhere around this guy. But he can pretend he was there. Let him go and we forget him. Coz remembering someone like this one coz he used to drive a fast car is stupid. Let him get buried. We forget him. After all, for 99% of wazua, no one cares about him. I pray he get's what he deserves. Amen. I don't know any of the Mois, what I hear is the gossip from the media and bloggers. When this Moi(JT) lost his parliament seat, he didn't force himself to the people and apart from this supposed discovery that was made on his day of death, i haven't heard his name mentioned anywhere. Kenyans just need to respect the bereaved It was never his. He contested twice and lost on the two occasions. Then he must have been a very useless guy if he could not use the "magic" name in kalenjin land to get elected.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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murchr wrote:Only Ruto has mourned with JT's family, the others are out for a photo op with his father
He went to condole in Kabimoi because he was denied access to Kabarak. 
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hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:Only Ruto has mourned with JT's family, the others are out for a photo op with his father
He went to condole in Kabimoi because he was denied access to Kabarak. That came from our journalists who never make any research while reporting. Ruto having been denied before to see Moi i dont think he would have even have guts tom step there. Life is an endless adventure
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/8/2010 Posts: 1,729
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na inakaa alikuwa amepanda mbegu kweli kweli Life is an endless adventure
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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The fact that JT kept off the limelight and was rather not common in ordinary circles does not mean he was a Saint. One thing which is known by those who knew him is that he was quick to his zip..... Something his dad loathed.
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