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Graft in Samburu County
2012
#1 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:18:59 AM
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This one takes the cake. Kudos Samburu.

BBI will solve it
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#2 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2019 4:42:15 PM
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#3 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2019 9:43:02 PM
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So the people who envisioned devolution did not also envision any mechanisms for financial oversight?

That means if these Samburu county officials were stashing their money in overseas banks instead of building palatial homes, they would not have been caught?

And I am yet to see any public official in Kenya sentenced for corruption. Somebody please correct me.

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EACC, in the list, says county officials registered companies and awarded themselves contracts worth over Ksh.700 million and were paid without delivering any services.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 26, 2019 3:33:11 AM
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2012 wrote:
This one takes the cake. Kudos Samburu.

Every time graft is mentioned, I tend to think of Northern Kenya counties.

Like Turkana. Never been there but with their allocation that beats many more populous counties which have more enlightened citizens- one wonders how much of these funds are used for the benefit of the people

I could be wrong but isn't it easy to please people in Turkana than in say, Nakuru, Kakamega and Kiambu?

If Nanok drilled boreholes and water pans here and there, subsidized animal vaccines, won't the people be happy?

The Nakuru governor cannot have it that easy. With a high urban population ( Nakuru, Naivasha, Maai Mahiu towns & many smaller urban centres); plus an equally demanding rural population with need for roads, PIPED water, healthcare, bursaries, sewer system, lighting, garage collection...

Anyone knows how Turkana is faring?
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 26, 2019 10:25:57 AM
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radiomast wrote:
So the people who envisioned devolution did not also envision any mechanisms for financial oversight?

That means if these Samburu county officials were stashing their money in overseas banks instead of building palatial homes, they would not have been caught?

And I am yet to see any public official in Kenya sentenced for corruption. Somebody please correct me.

Quote:
EACC, in the list, says county officials registered companies and awarded themselves contracts worth over Ksh.700 million and were paid without delivering any services.


Kidero stole over 20B. Obado has stolen over 2B and stashed cash in Australia and Hongkong. And they are still walking free.
hardwood
#6 Posted : Tuesday, February 26, 2019 10:33:50 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
2012 wrote:
This one takes the cake. Kudos Samburu.

Every time graft is mentioned, I tend to think of Northern Kenya counties.

Like Turkana. Never been there but with their allocation that beats many more populous counties which have more enlightened citizens- one wonders how much of these funds are used for the benefit of the people

I could be wrong but isn't it easy to please people in Turkana than in say, Nakuru, Kakamega and Kiambu?

If Nanok drilled boreholes and water pans here and there, subsidized animal vaccines, won't the people be happy?

The Nakuru governor cannot have it that easy. With a high urban population ( Nakuru, Naivasha, Maai Mahiu towns & many smaller urban centres); plus an equally demanding rural population with need for roads, PIPED water, healthcare, bursaries, sewer system, lighting, garage collection...

Anyone knows how Turkana is faring?


Turkana is frozen in time. Not a single sign of 70B received in devolution funds. I bet all the cash was diverted elsewhere.


2012
#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:59:06 AM
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One thing is clear about Kenya, taxes are for enriching thieves.

BBI will solve it
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radiomast
#8 Posted : Tuesday, February 26, 2019 4:50:35 PM
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hardwood wrote:
radiomast wrote:
So the people who envisioned devolution did not also envision any mechanisms for financial oversight?

That means if these Samburu county officials were stashing their money in overseas banks instead of building palatial homes, they would not have been caught?

And I am yet to see any public official in Kenya sentenced for corruption. Somebody please correct me.

Quote:
EACC, in the list, says county officials registered companies and awarded themselves contracts worth over Ksh.700 million and were paid without delivering any services.


Kidero stole over 20B. Obado has stolen over 2B and stashed cash in Australia and Hongkong. And they are still walking free.


One would think graft cases are easy to prosecute. If money was paid and no services rendered, it ought to be open and shut case.

The sad issue is that I don't think Kidero needed to steal anything. Before he dove into politics, he was already making a fortune. I guess every public official feels an obligation to steal because every other public official is stealing. Its a rotten culture.
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2019 4:54:48 PM
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2019 7:16:35 PM
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I hear the goverthug's bail has been set at kshs.100m or a bond of Ksh.150m + a surity of the same amount. I think the judiciary is slowly beginning to join other Kenyans.

BBI will solve it
:)
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2019 7:23:33 PM
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2019 7:35:30 PM
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2012 wrote:
I hear the goverthug's bond has been set at kshs.100m or a surity of Ksh.150m + a guarantor of the same. I think the judiciary is slowly beginning to join other Kenyans.


1OOm is still petty cash for these people. The best is to remand & bar them from office them with no option for a fine as they can pay any fine without blinking an eye
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2019 7:54:19 PM
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Gathige wrote:
2012 wrote:
I hear the goverthug's bond has been set at kshs.100m or a surity of Ksh.150m + a guarantor of the same. I think the judiciary is slowly beginning to join other Kenyans.


1OOm is still petty cash for these people. The best is to remand & bar them from office them with no option for a fine as they can pay any fine without blinking an eye


@Masukuma differs with the no bond scenario!!!
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2012
#14 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2019 9:01:46 PM
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Gathige wrote:
2012 wrote:
I hear the goverthug's bond has been set at kshs.100m or a surity of Ksh.150m + a guarantor of the same. I think the judiciary is slowly beginning to join other Kenyans.


1OOm is still petty cash for these people. The best is to remand & bar them from office them with no option for a fine as they can pay any fine without blinking an eye


It's not that easy after they have frozen your assets and your bank accounts as recovery of stolen assets. You also have to explain where the bond has come from or where your surity friend's money or assets were acquired. One thief cannot therefore bail out another.

BBI will solve it
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murchr
#15 Posted : Tuesday, April 02, 2019 11:14:57 PM
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Gathige wrote:
2012 wrote:
I hear the goverthug's bond has been set at kshs.100m or a surity of Ksh.150m + a guarantor of the same. I think the judiciary is slowly beginning to join other Kenyans.


1OOm is still petty cash for these people. The best is to remand & bar them from office them with no option for a fine as they can pay any fine without blinking an eye


Ametoa hio pesa? I really like this judge
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2019 8:41:31 AM
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murchr wrote:
Gathige wrote:
2012 wrote:
I hear the goverthug's bond has been set at kshs.100m or a surity of Ksh.150m + a guarantor of the same. I think the judiciary is slowly beginning to join other Kenyans.


1OOm is still petty cash for these people. The best is to remand & bar them from office them with no option for a fine as they can pay any fine without blinking an eye


Ametoa hio pesa? I really like this judge

He will appeal to a higher court.
I care!
hardwood
#17 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2019 10:41:29 AM
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Just image how a hard working kenyan is struggling to service a 20yr mortgage for a 12m apartment hapo kileleshwa. Then these thieves are stealing billions of tax payers money. The authorities have to jail these thieves or else kenyans may take the law into their hands and start conducting public lynchings.
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2019 5:26:50 PM
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thuks wrote:
murchr wrote:
Gathige wrote:
2012 wrote:
I hear the goverthug's bond has been set at kshs.100m or a surity of Ksh.150m + a guarantor of the same. I think the judiciary is slowly beginning to join other Kenyans.


1OOm is still petty cash for these people. The best is to remand & bar them from office them with no option for a fine as they can pay any fine without blinking an eye


Ametoa hio pesa? I really like this judge

He will appeal to a higher court.

Bail down to 10M
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2019 5:46:46 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
thuks wrote:
murchr wrote:
Gathige wrote:
2012 wrote:
I hear the goverthug's bond has been set at kshs.100m or a surity of Ksh.150m + a guarantor of the same. I think the judiciary is slowly beginning to join other Kenyans.


1OOm is still petty cash for these people. The best is to remand & bar them from office them with no option for a fine as they can pay any fine without blinking an eye


Ametoa hio pesa? I really like this judge

He will appeal to a higher court.

Bail down to 10M

hii korti bandia.. it means if you have to steal Big.buy freedom enjoy and wait to go to hell
punda amecheka
Angelica _ann
#20 Posted : Wednesday, April 03, 2019 5:55:59 PM
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newfarer wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
thuks wrote:
murchr wrote:
Gathige wrote:
2012 wrote:
I hear the goverthug's bond has been set at kshs.100m or a surity of Ksh.150m + a guarantor of the same. I think the judiciary is slowly beginning to join other Kenyans.


1OOm is still petty cash for these people. The best is to remand & bar them from office them with no option for a fine as they can pay any fine without blinking an eye


Ametoa hio pesa? I really like this judge

He will appeal to a higher court.

Bail down to 10M

hii korti bandia.. it means if you have to steal Big.buy freedom enjoy and wait to go to hell


All in 1 day, Korti bandia kabsaaaa smile
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